Exodus Gods and Kings

[Jason_NC]

I knew it would not be perfectly accurate.  I expected something similar to The Ten Commandments with modern effects. 

Not remotely.

I cannot recommend this movie at all.

[Ocean]

You're not alone in this. Dr. James White couldn't recommend it either. It's also getting a lot of criticism over Ridley Scott's casting of all white actors for a movie depicting the culture of ancient Egypt.

I won't see it because I think Christian Bale was way out of line in his commentary about the Biblical Moses. If he thought the  Biblical patriarch was that bad he should have declined the invite to portray the man he of whom he said : "I think the man was likely schizophrenic and was one of the most barbaric individuals that I ever read about in my life," Bale said. "He was a very troubled, tumultuous man and mercurial. But the biggest surprise was the nature of God. He was equally very mercurial."

[k-pappy]

That's about what I expect from Hollywood and the HuffPo bloggers.

[Ocean]

Hollywood is largely Liberal. I don't think we should expect that machine to commit to making movies that are of the nature wherein they'll lead people to Christ. Entertainment fiction is their bread and butter. That apparently doesn't stop at the Bible.

Noah was a horrible example of that. "The Bible" was a travesty. Though Son of God wasn't bad in my opinion. Hollywood is in the business of making money, not converts. Though I guarantee they'd not pursue the same absurd script and casting so as to mock Islam.

[MeMyself]

"The Bible" was a travesty.

In what way?  I didn't watch it, but lots of others I know did and I don't remember them saying they felt the same way...just curious.

[Ocean]

"The Bible" was a travesty.

In what way?  I didn't watch it, but lots of others I know did and I don't remember them saying they felt the same way...just curious.

I stopped watching it when the Angels that visited Lot and his family started fighting the men of the town using martial arts.  When the writers of the script went there the rest wasn't worth my time.

[MeMyself]

"The Bible" was a travesty.

In what way?  I didn't watch it, but lots of others I know did and I don't remember them saying they felt the same way...just curious.

I stopped watching it when the Angels that visited Lot and his family started fighting the men of the town using martial arts.  When the writers of the script went there the rest wasn't worth my time.

ok.

[Alan]

I enjoyed Exodus Gods and Kings, we saw it in 3D for extra effect 


Followed the Biblical story for the most part, but we didn't go to to hear and see a sermon, we went to see a movie and that's what we got.


That said, it was much more Biblical than Noah, the added dramatical events didn't leave one thinking that they have bastardized the Biblical accounts.


I also thoroughly enjoyed the Bible series, and still watch it regularly.

[Ocean]

The ancient Egyptians, in fact the entire cast, was Caucasian  in Exodus God's and Kings.
I'd like to see the scripture, per "The Bible" , wherein we are told the angels that visited Lot engaged in spinning kicks and side hand strikes against the men of of Sodom. 

Movies are entertainment. Mockery of scripture is something else all together.

I enjoyed Exodus Gods and Kings, we saw it in 3D for extra effect 


Followed the Biblical story for the most part, but we didn't go to to hear and see a sermon, we went to see a movie and that's what we got.


That said, it was much more Biblical than Noah, the added dramatical events didn't leave one thinking that they have bastardized the Biblical accounts.


I also thoroughly enjoyed the Bible series, and still watch it regularly.

[MeMyself]

The ancient Egyptians, in fact the entire cast, was Caucasian  in Exodus God's and Kings.
I'd like to see the scripture, per "The Bible" , wherein we are told the angels that visited Lot engaged in spinning kicks and side hand strikes against the men of of Sodom. 

Movies are entertainment. Mockery of scripture is something else all together.

I don't think the casting of Caucasians or "spin kicks and side hand strikes against the men of Sodom" is mockery of scripture.   Just artistic license...IMO anyway.

[Ocean]

A Hollywood studio decides to excerpt a part of scripture in the Holy Bible that pertains to a particular event in Judeo-Christian history. The foundation for the screenplay is the Holy Bible first. It is from the scriptures that the entire project originates.

Interjecting 'artistic license' and absurd falsehoods relating what is advertised as a story from the Holy Bible, that ends up not being a story from the Holy Bible, is not mockery?

Mockery
    [mok-uh-ree]         noun, plural mockeries.   1.  ridicule, contempt, or derision.    2.  a derisive, imitative action or speech.    3.  a subject or occasion of derision.    4.  an imitation, especially of a ridiculous or unsatisfactory kind.    5.  a mocking pretense; travesty: a mockery of justice.   6. something absurdly or offensively inadequate or unfitting



  artistic license    noun  the freedom to create an artwork, musical work, or piece of writing based on the artist's interpretation and mainly for effect; also called poetic license , etc.

[MeMyself]

Interjecting 'artistic license' and absurd falsehoods relating what is advertised as a story from the Holy Bible, that ends up not being a story from the Holy Bible, is not mockery?

I don't think its absurd at all, actually, nor do I see it as a mockery if it stays very close to the main thrust of the story.  I remember when the Prince of Egypt came out.  There was a lot of praise for it as it was pretty close to the Bible, but Dobson and those that stood with him to praise the movie and desire of the producers to make it as close to the bible as they could also showed grace over things that on the grand scheme of things added up to being "artistic license".

[Ocean]

I'm not hoping to turn your opinion toward mine. I simply shared my opinion and supported it. To each their own.

[MeMyself]

I'm not hoping to turn your opinion toward mine. I simply shared my opinion and supported it. To each their own.

Oh, me neither...just giving my thoughts...

[Alan]

The ancient Egyptians, in fact the entire cast, was Caucasian  in Exodus God's and Kings.

So?

I'd like to see the scripture, per "The Bible" , wherein we are told the angels that visited Lot engaged in spinning kicks and side hand strikes against the men of of Sodom.

Which technique was used as scripture tells us?

Movies are entertainment. Mockery of scripture is something else all together.

Yes, it was a movie, a mockery in your mind, entertainment to me.

Thank God I'm able to distinguish the difference between malice and opinion.

[DaveW]

The ancient Egyptians, in fact the entire cast, was Caucasian  in Exodus God's and Kings.

And which race do you think the Pharoh and Egyptians were in the bible?  Moses was a Levite and blended in with the royal family. We know that at that point the sub-Saharan Black Africans had not yet taken over Egypt (and the heiroglyphs do not show them black); so we can pretty much think their skin color was about the same as Sephardic Jews today (Caucasian)

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

The ancient Egyptians, in fact the entire cast, was Caucasian  in Exodus God's and Kings.

And which race do you think the Pharoh and Egyptians were in the bible?  Moses was a Levite and blended in with the royal family. We know that at that point the sub-Saharan Black Africans had not yet taken over Egypt (and the heiroglyphs do not show them black); so we can pretty much think their skin color was about the same as Sephardic Jews today (Caucasian)

The Bible makes the Israelites a mixed race "red" (Adam) and "white" (Laban).  The Canaanites were "red" (Phoenician means red in Greek).    A race that was "black" (Kush) resides in the country of the same name, Kush, which is  Ethiopia, not Egypt.  Egypt is Mizraim which doesn't mark race out one way or the other.

The Egyptians themselves paint themselves as white, though, and their paintings also show that they had black slaves at some point.  Their god Osiris is also depicted as being black.

Jarrod

[Free Christian]

I believe that if anyone is going to tell a Bible story, make it into a movie, or anything, then they better get it right and be accurate. The Bible is Gods Holy Word and should be treated as such. To accept anything less and say "but its just a movie, it entertained me" is not what the Holy Word of God is all about. If anyone wants to take anything from the Bible then they should understand exactly what it is they are dealing with. The Bible is not a script for a movie or play which is open to change and doctoring to suit ones whim or entertainment, the Bible was not the invention of man which we can toy with.
The Bible is Gods Holy Word and any telling of it in any way shape or form should be treated the same as if it were preached from the pulpit!
We read in Revelation 22 vs 18 & 19 the warnings on adding to or subtracting from, altering the Word of God, for the book of Revelation. This rule should and does apply to all of Gods Word

[Alan]

I believe that if anyone is going to tell a Bible story, make it into a movie, or anything, then they better get it right and be accurate. The Bible is Gods Holy Word and should be treated as such. To accept anything less and say "but its just a movie, it entertained me" is not what the Holy Word of God is all about. If anyone wants to take anything from the Bible then they should understand exactly what it is they are dealing with. The Bible is not a script for a movie or play which is open to change and doctoring to suit ones whim or entertainment, the Bible was not the invention of man which we can toy with.
The Bible is Gods Holy Word and any telling of it in any way shape or form should be treated the same as if it were preached from the pulpit!
We read in Revelation 22 vs 18 & 19 the warnings on adding to or subtracting from, altering the Word of God, for the book of Revelation. This rule should and does apply to all of Gods Word

Then don't go. 


I happened to have enjoyed it but I guess I'm wrong for that 

[DaveW]

The Bible makes the Israelites a mixed race "red" (Adam) and "white" (Laban). 

I think you misunderstood the text:

Ex 12.37 Now the sons of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, aside from children.
38 A mixed multitude also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large number of livestock.

The mixed group were the slaves from all other lands that split with the Israelites.  It is not saying the Israelites themselves were a mixed group.

[Wycliffes_Shillelagh]

The Bible makes the Israelites a mixed race "red" (Adam) and "white" (Laban). 

I think you misunderstood the text:

Ex 12.37 Now the sons of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, aside from children.  38 A mixed multitude also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large number of livestock.

The mixed group were the slaves from all other lands that split with the Israelites.  It is not saying the Israelites themselves were a mixed group.

It wasn't a consideration of that verse, specifically, to the exclusion of all others.  Maybe read the rest of the book?

Jacob had 4 wives.  Rachel and Leah were daughters of Laban.  Given his geographic location and the fact that his name translates as "white" it's fairly obvious what their race was. 

But Syria in that day was a melting pot of immigrants from the north (aka the Caucasus) and the south (Accadia, Sumeria).  Abraham himself was just such an immigrant.  The people in those areas did not paint themselves as white.

Pop quiz - what color was Esau?  (hint: it wasn't white)

Jarrod

[Jaime]

Genesis 25:25: The first to come out was red, and his whole body was like a hairy garment; so they named him Esau.

[k-pappy]

I believe that if anyone is going to tell a Bible story, make it into a movie, or anything, then they better get it right and be accurate. The Bible is Gods Holy Word and should be treated as such. To accept anything less and say "but its just a movie, it entertained me" is not what the Holy Word of God is all about. If anyone wants to take anything from the Bible then they should understand exactly what it is they are dealing with. The Bible is not a script for a movie or play which is open to change and doctoring to suit ones whim or entertainment, the Bible was not the invention of man which we can toy with.
The Bible is Gods Holy Word and any telling of it in any way shape or form should be treated the same as if it were preached from the pulpit!
We read in Revelation 22 vs 18 & 19 the warnings on adding to or subtracting from, altering the Word of God, for the book of Revelation. This rule should and does apply to all of Gods Word

Then don't go. 

I happened to have enjoyed it but I guess I'm wrong for that 

This sounds like a Romans 14 issue.  It is wrong for some people and they should not do it.  It is ok for others and they can.

[Alan]

I believe that if anyone is going to tell a Bible story, make it into a movie, or anything, then they better get it right and be accurate. The Bible is Gods Holy Word and should be treated as such. To accept anything less and say "but its just a movie, it entertained me" is not what the Holy Word of God is all about. If anyone wants to take anything from the Bible then they should understand exactly what it is they are dealing with. The Bible is not a script for a movie or play which is open to change and doctoring to suit ones whim or entertainment, the Bible was not the invention of man which we can toy with.
The Bible is Gods Holy Word and any telling of it in any way shape or form should be treated the same as if it were preached from the pulpit!
We read in Revelation 22 vs 18 & 19 the warnings on adding to or subtracting from, altering the Word of God, for the book of Revelation. This rule should and does apply to all of Gods Word

Then don't go. 

I happened to have enjoyed it but I guess I'm wrong for that 

This sounds like a Romans 14 issue.  It is wrong for some people and they should not do it.  It is ok for others and they can.

Yep, good chapter and it applies perfectly here.....come to think of it, it would apply to many of the ongoing threads here at GC