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Postmortem salvation

Started by sharpoldguy, Sun Feb 15, 2015 - 04:20:12

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 ::clappingoverhead:: In studying and writing about the Consummation (the final wrap-up of the human race) I looked at universalism and annihilationism as alternatives to eternal conscious torment. I came down to annihilation as the most plausible. But my greatest discovery and most grace-filled and happy conclusion is that everyone who has not committed the unpardonable sin will have a chance at the final judgment to come to saving faith in Christ. I believe I have lots of biblical evidence for this view, and it is essentially simply applying the grace of God after ones death. Why not? God wants people saved. SO I have coined a term for the idea that most people will be lost, as traditionally believed by evangelicals. I call that the gospel with an asterisk. The gospel  is that Christ died for our sins; the asterisk is that most people will be finally lost anyhow. I have just completed my book making my case for postmortem salvation and am excited about the strength of my case for it. (I am not real clear, since I am new on this forum, whether I am allowed to promote by mentioning my new title)   

Red Baker

Quote from: sharpoldguy on Sun Feb 15, 2015 - 04:20:12(I am not real clear, since I am new on this forum, whether I am allowed to promote by mentioning my new title)   

That's not the only thing you may not be clear on. 

Quote believe I have lots of biblical evidence for this view, and it is essentially simply applying the grace of God after ones death.

At death, one's eternal state is forever final, and cannot be changed.  This is basically what Jesus taught in Luke 16:26

AVZ

Quote from: sharpoldguy on Sun Feb 15, 2015 - 04:20:12
I believe I have lots of biblical evidence for this view, and it is essentially simply applying the grace of God after ones death. Why not? God wants people saved.

Yeah, sure. Why not simply apply grace and salvation to everyone whilst you are at it, then judgement is not even necessary anymore.
Or just cancel death altogether...all that fuzz over nothing.

Maybe you should post your biblical "evidence" for your position here before you start printing your book.

Corinth777

This concept still allows individuals to live as they please even outside the moral teachings of Christ. The scripture is very clear that "None can come to the Father except through the Son and none can come to the Son unless the Spirit draws him." This is a very dangerous teaching that you are bordering on and I would like to see all your scriptures backing your claim. Blessings

sharpoldguy

To Red Baker: You are correct that there are other things I am not sure of besides whether I may post my book title in these exchanges. It would have been nice had you relieved my ignorance by instructing me rather than insulting me because I honestly admit I lack a certain specific knowledge. Insulting someone because you disagree with them is what the Pharisees did with the man born blind when he said Jesus healed him  (see John 9:24-29).  I point all this out in my book.

sharpoldguy

To AVZ.  I can hardly post my evidence for postmortem salvation here since it takes approximately half of my 140 page book to do that. As I said in my original post, I have lots of biblical evidence for postmortem salvation. The Bible nowhere says pm salvation is impossible. Hebrews 9:27 does not say that. It says after death is judgment. If you study the two Greek words translated judgment: krisis and krima, you will see that Hebrews 9:27 uses krisis, the kind of judgment that is a trial, not the kind that is a verdict or penalty. 

Nevertheless

Quote from: sharpoldguy on Sun Feb 15, 2015 - 04:20:12
(I am not real clear, since I am new on this forum, whether I am allowed to promote by mentioning my new title)



No, that is not allowed.

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I highly suggest that you read all the rules of the forum. LINK

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