no Holy Ghost needed - we have the scriptures

[LexKnight]

Kensington showed a good flaw in the RCC doctrine. The Scriptures has shown grave error in the idea of lineage of rulership, Solomon was certainly not as faithful as his father, nor Hezekiah as Josiah. Yet even though we had some wayward judges, they all completed their missions. Difference? Judges didn't have lineage, God specifically chose them. That is how the callings are to be given, not by vote. Otherwise, as history of the RCC had shown, you will have bad leadership pushing corrupt doctrines. The Protestant sects aren't exactly without guilt here, either.

[His Kid]

Kensington showed a good flaw in the RCC doctrine. The Scriptures has shown grave error in the idea of lineage of rulership, Solomon was certainly not as faithful as his father, nor Hezekiah as Josiah. Yet even though we had some wayward judges, they all completed their missions. Difference? Judges didn't have lineage, God specifically chose them. That is how the callings are to be given, not by vote. Otherwise, as history of the RCC had shown, you will have bad leadership pushing corrupt doctrines. The Protestant sects aren't exactly without guilt here, either.

I wouldn't expect the Protestant sects to be without guilt as they are merely offshoots of Catholicism. There exists a 'sect' not related at all to either of these that very few acknowledge; the body of believers who do not associate with either Catholicism or Protestantism.

[Catholica]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

[His Kid]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

[Catholica]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

[Catholica]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

Mind forum rule 1.2:

1.2 You will not directly call another member or his or her religious organization a "cult", "heretic," "demonic" or "satanic" if it holds beliefs consistent with orthodox Christianity as set forth in Rule 6. You may discuss doctrines, teachings, practices or writings of other religious organizations as long as evidence (including Scripture) is provided.

[His Kid]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

Mind forum rule 1.2:

1.2 You will not directly call another member or his or her religious organization a "cult", "heretic," "demonic" or "satanic" if it holds beliefs consistent with orthodox Christianity as set forth in Rule 6. You may discuss doctrines, teachings, practices or writings of other religious organizations as long as evidence (including Scripture) is provided.

I edited my post about demons casting out demons.

[His Kid]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

If that makes you feel better, sure.

[Catholica]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

If that makes you feel better, sure.

That's pretty much what I thought.

[Texas Conservative]

 

This discussion has just gone into crazy territory.

[Catholica]

This discussion has just gone into crazy territory.

Its been there for three pages now.  Strike that, five.

[Catholica]

Kensington showed a good flaw in the RCC doctrine. The Scriptures has shown grave error in the idea of lineage of rulership, Solomon was certainly not as faithful as his father, nor Hezekiah as Josiah. Yet even though we had some wayward judges, they all completed their missions. Difference? Judges didn't have lineage, God specifically chose them. That is how the callings are to be given, not by vote. Otherwise, as history of the RCC had shown, you will have bad leadership pushing corrupt doctrines. The Protestant sects aren't exactly without guilt here, either.

Yet at the end of judges, the people of Israel were just as wanderingly lost as they started.

Judges 21:25 "In those days Israel had no king; all the people did whatever seemed right in their own eyes."

To me, that describes the state of the sola scriptura churches.

[His Kid]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

If that makes you feel better, sure.

That's pretty much what I thought.

Well of course you did. I've just warned you, so when it happens, you will not be surprised. From the sound of it,  you will not believe the Great Deception because you don't believe the Vatican is interested in life beyond this planet and you don't believe in aliens. I suggest you hold fast to that belief.

[Catholica]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

If that makes you feel better, sure.

That's pretty much what I thought.

Well of course you did. I've just warned you, so when it happens, you will not be surprised. From the sound of it,  you will not believe the Great Deception because you don't believe the Vatican is interested in life beyond this planet and you don't believe in aliens. I suggest you hold fast to that belief.

Why would I believe it?  It sounds like crazy talk and you have provided zero evidence for it.

[His Kid]

Catholica


Your source does not even believe in extraterrestrials, Many Catholics do, as does those working on the project trying to find them from Mt. Graham by instruction of the Vatican. What in the heck do you think they are doing up there, anyway? lol

Studying the stars, as they have since the day a Catholic invented the telescope.  The laughable thing is that you think they are looking for aliens.  How backwards.

There is so much activity in the skies that cannot be explained. There is UFO activity. An abundance. The Vatican is quite interested in it. You obviously don't get it now, but you will. When you see it all play out, you will remember this conversation.

Maybe you should have a chat with your pal Thadeous. He believes in extraterrestrials and has no problem accepting the fact that the Vatican is trying to make contact.

However, it hardly matters. I just gave the warning. You can laugh all you like. I don't mind. It is good news that you don't believe in aliens. I don't either. They are demons, not aliens. Maybe when the Vatican announces they have made contact, you will finally walk away from that religion.

Show me evidence that the Vatican is interested in "UFO activity".

No thanks. I'm not going to waste my time.

That's because there is none and you don't want to appear the fool.

If that makes you feel better, sure.

That's pretty much what I thought.

Well of course you did. I've just warned you, so when it happens, you will not be surprised. From the sound of it,  you will not believe the Great Deception because you don't believe the Vatican is interested in life beyond this planet and you don't believe in aliens. I suggest you hold fast to that belief.

Why would I believe it?  It sounds like crazy talk and you have provided zero evidence for it.

I absolutely understand. When it finally happens, you will have an aha moment, hopefully.

[Hexalpa]

What doesn't seem probable to me is that every Dutch person was Catholic. That doesn't even make sense.


They weren't.  I said the telescope was invented in the early 1600's and by that time the Dutch Protestant split had started. It's a could be or not situation as to the inventor being Catholic as you stated.

This may clarify Dutch religion history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Dutch_religion

What I read is that a Dutch guy patented the telescope. Doesn't mean he invented it.
But even so, if the argument holds that something is right because a Catholic did it...then who invented the mafia?
Franco was a Catholic, so were Hitler, Mussolini, Petain and Ferdinand Marcos.
Ever heard about drug trade and drug murders? What denomination are these people in South America again?

If Catholica's argument is valid then the RCC is a criminal organisation.

Hitler was going down the path to wipe out the Mafia for good and that's a fact and another fact is that the USA helped support the Mafia.

Hitler was baptised a RC, but he sure was no supporter of the RCC.

Hitler was not on about the Holy Ghost at all and nor were all the other people you just mentioned above, all of them were worldly in their ambition.

The RCC calls it's self a Church of Saints and sinners, maybe if they kicked out the sinners all would be ok, but they will not kick out the sinners.

Kicked out the sinners   

well that's why the 
I think the Pope from JP2 on has been to lenient on the sinners, not coming down hard enough on the grave sinners, letting all the child molesters and sodomites get out of hand within his Church.
There must be extreme pressure and cunning being forced against the Popes from all the priest and their flocks to support all the sickness of the cunning devils that work to undermine Christ.

From what I know of the RCC the difference between the top in depth educated RC people and the ones that are just dilettantes as are a lot of priest and their flock are, is like chalk and cheese sadly from my experience, the priest are always huffing and puffing against the Popes and are pushing a worldly barrow of their own works and the protestants pick up on such people who are worshiping Idols and such nonsense.

Now we have Nations that are head over heals in love with Sodomite's, Greed and Corruption absolutely and we have so called Christian people saying that Sin is just sin, fact is there are levels of Sin, some are tolerated because that's understandable, but some sins in fact are never to be tolerated at all.

We can never deal totally to stamp out dealing with Sin, but should never let it just fester, because that is just satanic..   

[skeeter]

Well of course you did. I've just warned you, so when it happens, you will not be surprised. From the sound of it,  you will not believe the Great Deception because you don't believe the Vatican is interested in life beyond this planet and you don't believe in aliens. I suggest you hold fast to that belief.

Why would I believe it?  It sounds like crazy talk and you have provided zero evidence for it.

see what you can find in a book about it by Tom Horn.  I think that is the guy's name.
the Vatican is trying to reach / discover another 'realm' / universe.

and there's something about a 'track' ? that goes around the border of France.  I don't remember if it's totally around it - or even if it's above ground or underground. I don't remember what the track is for - maybe speed and force  to break thru? who knows why the Vatican thinks there's  a need for this or where they came up with the 'how' to it.  Are they trying to find another kingdom to rule?  find heaven and sneak up on God?
They've got to be spending a blooming mega fortune on this - yet don't seem to have enough to settle some law suits filed against them.

[kensington]

Is this it?  The author, the book, the premise..

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0984825630/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=61124379683&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=997520257284050771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9s15mwcflr_b

[His Kid]

Is this it?  The author, the book, the premise..

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0984825630/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=61124379683&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=997520257284050771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9s15mwcflr_b

That is quite a good resource. There was a ton of research that went into it.

[skeeter]

Is this it?  The author, the book, the premise..

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0984825630/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=61124379683&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=997520257284050771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9s15mwcflr_b

yes, that looks like it. I wasn't sure if his name  was Tom and forgot he did have a partner in it.   He is  also the one who wrote a book about Francis being the last pope, I think.

I listened to part of what they had to say on a tv program and found it fascinating.   it drew my interest because of mount graham in Tucson.

eta -  how weird... not long after posting my reply, I watched a show called 'prophecy watchers' - thought it might be about Israel ... but no, they had Tom Horn on! and someone else - Joe Ardis.
anyway, he's talking about our ability now to change human make up, modifying our genetics, the ability to change a species.

[Catholica]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

[His Kid]

Is this it?  The author, the book, the premise..

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0984825630/?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=61124379683&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=997520257284050771&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_9s15mwcflr_b

yes, that looks like it. I wasn't sure if his name  was Tom and forgot he did have a partner in it.   He is  also the one who wrote a book about Francis being the last pope, I think.

I listened to part of what they had to say on a tv program and found it fascinating.   it drew my interest because of mount graham in Tucson.

eta -  how weird... not long after posting my reply, I watched a show called 'prophecy watchers' - thought it might be about Israel ... but no, they had Tom Horn on! and someone else - Joe Ardis.
anyway, he's talking about our ability now to change human make up, modifying our genetics, the ability to change a species.

It's quite true. I worked for a biotech company in San Diego that is doing just that experimentally. It's quite alarming what these men are experimenting with and succeeding.

[skeeter]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

I'm sure you did post something about it...that it established them to be charlatans is another topic.

many have posted the same about the pope etc.  You post against that too.

[Catholica]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

[Catholica]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

[Catholica]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

I don't know what elaborate lie they will come up with. All I know is that Jesus will be quite a problem for the Vatican at that point, and they are very successful at deceiving people, so it won't be a problem for them, whatever lie they tell.

[Hexalpa]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

You are totally correct dear Catholica, just some have a total hatred that blinds them to truly look into the facts that the Catholic Church claims. 

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

You are totally correct dear Catholica, just some have a total hatred that blinds them to truly look into the facts that the Catholic Church claims.

I was raised in the RCC and am very well schooled in what they claim.

[Hexalpa]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

You are totally correct dear Catholica, just some have a total hatred that blinds them to truly look into the facts that the Catholic Church claims.

I was raised in the RCC and am very well schooled in what they claim.

I was not raised as a Catholic and was taught to hate them and was spun a hole lot of lies, I found out such were all lies and I wanted to attack them, so I looked into what they claim and found out that my protestant religion was guilty of so much slander against the RCC that I was shocked, not to mention when I walked about the Roman Catholics I found that such people were into what the Protestants said the Roman Catholics were into.

What the RCC teachers from the top does not go out to the Churches that are under it's guidance, but there is another movement or mob that rejects most of what the top and the Pope's say and live in ignorance.

I suppose it's the same with all religions as well, as when I was in the Lutheran Church I came against the same ignorant types that did not follow the leadership, but then again the ones that did had to leave in disgust of what their Church was becoming, and the same is so of my C of E good faithful people have left in droves.

Satan is at work doing his best and the true Christians have become lost to a new satanic Political Correct god that most totally love full on. (mans works)
No one can stand up to them lot because they use PC to push their way around and they do it with so much vengeance but cunning as Satan.

I know how lovely Satan can make himself out to be, but he leads all astray and the problem is people just don't comprehend just how cunning Satan works are.

Blind faith is worthless, one must comprehend Original Sin. 

[His Kid]

I've already established that The authors of that book are charlatans. Name one other source that suggests the same.

You established those awesome Christian men as charlatans? That's funny.

That you think its funny is fairly disturbing. 

One of the authors contacted the director at the VATT, took his replies to those emails and completely twisted and distorted what he wrote, and published that into the book.

Here is the link that you must not have read.

http://brotherguy.livejournal.com/74394.html

And the link to Tom Horn et. al established here:

http://barthsnotes.com/2013/05/01/vatican-astronomer-claims-thomas-horn-twisted-misquoted-his-words-invented-utter-falsehoods/

I think it's funny that you think you have established these men of God as charlatans. There was no twisting of words or falsehoods. It is an utter lack of comprehension of what the book is about and how it is presented. Oy vey.

Well here are some other "established men of God" with something to say about Tom Horn:

http://fanaticforjesus.blogspot.com/2012/09/tom-horn-leading-blind-gullible.html

http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wordpress/apollyon-is-not-rising-in-2012-you-are-being-hornswoggled.html

http://www.examiner.com/article/tom-horn-profiting-from-false-prophecy

Sure, whatever your silly little blogs say. Just remember, when the Vatican claims to have found intelligent life, it's time to leave.

Just to be clear, Tom did not ever asset that Jesus was a hybrid human. He was simply making a wild guess of what the Vatican might come up with when they claim to have made contact with other intelligent life. They will have a problem with the actual Jesus at that time because it will open up a huge can of worms. They will come up with some elaborate lie that millions of people will believe, that is for sure. They are very good at that.

Sorry, but established dogma make that impossible.  Tom not only makes stuff up, but he has little understanding of how the Catholic Church operates with regard to established dogma.

The nature of Jesus Christ has been solidly established in dogma as being both God (divine) and man.  That goes back to the time when the Church defined the dogma of the hypostatic union in 431.  No future "revelation" can change that fact, and it is beyond naive to believe otherwise.  Once a dogma is established, no person on Earth can change it, not even the Pope nor the Magisterium.

I'll leave you to your knavish dollar chasers though, you seem happy enough believing silly things.

You are totally correct dear Catholica, just some have a total hatred that blinds them to truly look into the facts that the Catholic Church claims.

I was raised in the RCC and am very well schooled in what they claim.

I was not raised as a Catholic and was taught to hate them and was spun a hole lot of lies, I found out such were all lies and I wanted to attack them, so I looked into what they claim and found out that my protestant religion was guilty of so much slander against the RCC that I was shocked, not to mention when I walked about the Roman Catholics I found that such people were into what the Protestants said the Roman Catholics were into.

What the RCC teachers from the top does not go out to the Churches that are under it's guidance, but there is another movement or mob that rejects most of what the top and the Pope's say and live in ignorance.

I suppose it's the same with all religions as well, as when I was in the Lutheran Church I came against the same ignorant types that did not follow the leadership, but then again the ones that did had to leave in disgust of what their Church was becoming, and the same is so of my C of E good faithful people have left in droves.

Satan is at work doing his best and the true Christians have become lost to a new satanic Political Correct god that most totally love full on. (mans works)
No one can stand up to them lot because they use PC to push their way around and they do it with so much vengeance but cunning as Satan.

I know how lovely Satan can make himself out to be, but he leads all astray and the problem is people just don't comprehend just how cunning Satan works are.

Blind faith is worthless, one must comprehend Original Sin.

Ah, well that explains it. Protestantism is just an offshoot of Catholicism. I am neither.
When I was in the Catholic church, I was taught to hate Christians.

By the way, original sin is not a Scriptural teaching. It is a fabrication of the RCC which lends to the complete distortion of the true richness of the sacrifice of Christ which the RCC rejects.

[Catholica]

When I was in the Catholic church, I was taught to hate Christians.

Really?  What did they teach you to do?