After 20yrs....

[Covkeeper34]

Lol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

Have I lied about anything yet concerning how Westernized Christians believe and how it conditions it's converts to believe? Remember,  I used to be one so I know how that Religion teaches all too well.

[MeMyself]

Lol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

  Irrational ranting is best left to burn itself out.

[Covkeeper34]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

[Covkeeper34]

Lol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

  Irrational ranting is best left to burn itself out.

Do the viewers, I mean The Rational Mind think this is irrational? Notice how it's only the known Christians mocking who don't believe in keeping the Law of Moses?

[MeMyself]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

Yep.

[MeMyself]

Lol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

  Irrational ranting is best left to burn itself out.

Do the viewers, I mean The Rational Mind think this is irrational? Notice how it's only the known Christians mocking who don't believe in keeping the Law of Moses?

Oh, trust me, its not the law of Moses being mocked...

[Covkeeper34]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

Yep.

Can you prove that?

[MeMyself]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

Yep.

Can you prove that?

No. But, neither can you prove they are looking and buying the crud you are slinging. So,  .

[Covkeeper34]

Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

Speaking of generals, who do you think has been leading the traffic here? I promise you it's not just happening. Maybe I have something to do with it. And wouldn't it blow your mind if you found out I was leading Christian soldiers here that respect what I say even though they know I'm not one anymore. Maybe I'm more of a general in YOUR religion than you thought.

[Covkeeper34]

Lol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

  Irrational ranting is best left to burn itself out.

Do the viewers, I mean The Rational Mind think this is irrational? Notice how it's only the known Christians mocking who don't believe in keeping the Law of Moses?

Oh, trust me, its not the law of Moses being mocked...

Hmm..then if it's me you're mocking, what is a Spirit filled Christian doing mocking people and taking pleasure in it? Now you're mocking Christianity and embarrassing it in front of everyone. Oh, you must've forgot, The Rational Mind isn't just watching me, they're watching you too. Boom!!

[Covkeeper34]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

Yep.

Can you prove that?

No. But, neither can you prove they are looking and buying the crud you are slinging. So,  .

I actually can prove it. Who do you think has been leading these viewers here, personally? Wouldn't it blow your mind to know that I know for a fact these are Christians I'm leading her? And they respect what I say even though they know I'm not on that team anymore? When you as a Christian mock me publicly, you embarrass them and that whole false religious system.

[Nevertheless]

Have I lied about anything yet concerning how Westernized Christians believe and how it conditions it's converts to believe? Remember,  I used to be one so I know how that Religion teaches all too well.

See Reply #204

[Covkeeper34]

Have I lied about anything yet concerning how Westernized Christians believe and how it conditions it's converts to believe? Remember,  I used to be one so I know how that Religion teaches all too well.

See Reply #204

Put it in your own words what I lied about.

[Nevertheless]

Those are my words. Are you having trouble reading?

[Covkeeper34]

Those are my words. Are you having trouble reading?

Well, this phone doesn't show what reply it is, it doesn't show images of who you guys are, and this phone doesn't show how many views my post has. I only know about the views because I used my tablet yesterday.

So, since you think I'm lying please humor me and give a condensed version so I can continue defending my stance.

[Nevertheless]

So you are having trouble reading.



This was written in reply to your post (LINK) yesterday:

In spite of your enthusiastic support of the "rational mind" your arguments are quite lacking in logic.

Premise 1: In order for a prophet to be "like Moses" he must receive a law from a mountain.

First, the Law Moses received did not come from a mountain, it came from God while Moses was on the mountain, so the "facts" on which you base your premise are faulty.

Second, what is your basis for choosing this one characteristic of Moses on which to test the similarity of a prophet? Moses was of the tribe of Levi, was raised in Pharaoh's household, worked as a shepherd for 40 years, and began his job of leading Israel at age 80. Any of those characteristics could just as easily be chosen to determine if a prophet is "like Moses."

Premise 2: "Christian Jesus has no Law for you to obey"

This is simply false and demonstrates to all that you know very little about Christianity, despite your claims to great knowledge.

[Covkeeper34]

The Rational Mind Pt 4

Oh boy!! These moderators got me fired up lol!! Let's look at something else...

The Propaganda of Westernized Christianity is so effective. I commend it for its propaganda because propaganda in and of itself isn't a bad thing. But in the wrong hands...

This right here is more than a missile, it's an ATOM BOMB....

Rational Mind, do you notice....Hold on, let's do it this way....Let's use COMMON SENSE. ..

If I as an American wrote an American book, could you mistake it for a Swiss if it's contents are only filled with American thoughts and ideals? No? Good assessment.

What if I, an American wrote an American book but wrote it all in Spanish even though it's contents are filled with American thoughts and ideas, could you mistake it for a Spanish book if you could also read Spanish? No? Gee, Rational Mind, you're super smart.

Do you notice anything interesting about your Bible? No? It isn't obvious to you? Look at it closely. Pick it up right now and flip through its pages randomly.

You don't see it? Let me help you....

Start with the introduction to all the Books in your Torah and Tanakh if your Bible has 'em. Do you see it? All the authors are or are said to be, Hebrews right? But you probably already knew that in the back of your mind. Samuel, David, Solomon, Daniel: All Hebrew/Jewish right? Switch to the NT....

Can you see it? All the authors are Hebrew/Jewish, right? Can you see where this is going? Peter, John, James, Paul: All Jewish authors, right?***Rational Mind is thinking this through, thinking, thinking*** And suddenly breaks silence and says to me:

Cov, I've heard it PROPAGATED in Christianity that Luke is a Gentile!!

Hmm...I know that's what they say, I was testing you. But they're argument is SUPER WEAK!! They say Luke was a Gentile because his name is Luke. Or they say, Luke is a Gentile because he's a physician.

Not only will we use common sense  but we will also use reality to disprove that. Just because his name is Luke IN THE BIBLE, doesn't mean he's a Gentile. The name Jesus isn't Jewish, but we know He is. His brother's name is James IN THE BIBLE. That's not the Jewish name his parents gave him, is it?!! So, that argument is dead. Just because he's a doctor of whatever sort, doesn't mean he's a Gentile. What, you don't think there were any Jewish doctors back then? Come on, you're smarter than that Rational Mind, aren't you? Look around America today, look at how many Jewish doctors, lawyers, and business men/women there are!! That Christian argument is dead as well.

Your Bible is full of nothing but Jewish/Hebrew authors.

What are you saying, Cov?

Well, my common sense says that if the Biblical volume of books has nothing but Jewish / Hebrew authors in it....then the Bible IS NOT A CHRISTIAN BOOK!!.

But the propaganda of Westernized Christianity has fooled many people to the point that they'll read this Jewish material with only Christian eyes. What a hijacking!!!

What a departure from TRADITIONAL THEOLOGY. This forum is rightly named because Christian theology is the "NON-TRADITIONAL THEOLOGY" BOOM!!
***The Rational Mind is waking up****

[chosenone]

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.

Are you sure about that?

Well if they are saved, yes. 

[chosenone]

Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

Speaking of generals, who do you think has been leading the traffic here? I promise you it's not just happening. Maybe I have something to do with it. And wouldn't it blow your mind if you found out I was leading Christian soldiers here that respect what I say even though they know I'm not one anymore. Maybe I'm more of a general in YOUR religion than you thought.

You ask who had been leading the traffic here on this topic? Firstly God who wants to make sure that your unbiblical beliefs are refuted with the truth of the Bible(as has happened),and maybe also the enemy who wants to see more of Gods children go way off track, because that is what he loves to to. Get one of Gods children on their own away from other believers, fill their minds with thoughts of anything he can to fill them with arrogance and pride and make them think things such as that the blood of Jesus shed for us wasnt enough to save us, but that we must all go back pre when Jesus came and become Jews.   

[chosenone]

The Rational Mind Pt 4

Oh boy!! These moderators got me fired up lol!! Let's look at something else...

The Propaganda of Westernized Christianity is so effective. I commend it for its propaganda because propaganda in and of itself isn't a bad thing. But in the wrong hands...

This right here is more than a missile, it's an ATOM BOMB....

Rational Mind, do you notice....Hold on, let's do it this way....Let's use COMMON SENSE. ..

If I as an American wrote an American book, could you mistake it for a Swiss if it's contents are only filled with American thoughts and ideals? No? Good assessment.

What if I, an American wrote an American book but wrote it all in Spanish even though it's contents are filled with American thoughts and ideas, could you mistake it for a Spanish book if you could also read Spanish? No? Gee, Rational Mind, you're super smart.

Do you notice anything interesting about your Bible? No? It isn't obvious to you? Look at it closely. Pick it up right now and flip through its pages randomly.

You don't see it? Let me help you....

Start with the introduction to all the Books in your Torah and Tanakh if your Bible has 'em. Do you see it? All the authors are or are said to be, Hebrews right? But you probably already knew that in the back of your mind. Samuel, David, Solomon, Daniel: All Hebrew/Jewish right? Switch to the NT....

Can you see it? All the authors are Hebrew/Jewish, right? Can you see where this is going? Peter, John, James, Paul: All Jewish authors, right?***Rational Mind is thinking this through, thinking, thinking*** And suddenly breaks silence and says to me:

Cov, I've heard it PROPAGATED in Christianity that Luke is a Gentile!!

Hmm...I know that's what they say, I was testing you. But they're argument is SUPER WEAK!! They say Luke was a Gentile because his name is Luke. Or they say, Luke is a Gentile because he's a physician.

Not only will we use common sense  but we will also use reality to disprove that. Just because his name is Luke IN THE BIBLE, doesn't mean he's a Gentile. The name Jesus isn't Jewish, but we know He is. His brother's name is James IN THE BIBLE. That's not the Jewish name his parents gave him, is it?!! So, that argument is dead. Just because he's a doctor of whatever sort, doesn't mean he's a Gentile. What, you don't think there were any Jewish doctors back then? Come on, you're smarter than that Rational Mind, aren't you? Look around America today, look at how many Jewish doctors, lawyers, and business men/women there are!! That Christian argument is dead as well.

Your Bible is full of nothing but Jewish/Hebrew authors.

What are you saying, Cov?

Well, my common sense says that if the Biblical volume of books has nothing but Jewish / Hebrew authors in it....then the Bible IS NOT A CHRISTIAN BOOK!!.

But the propaganda of Westernized Christianity has fooled many people to the point that they'll read this Jewish material with only Christian eyes. What a hijacking!!!

What a departure from TRADITIONAL THEOLOGY. This forum is rightly named because Christian theology is the "NON-TRADITIONAL THEOLOGY" BOOM!!
***The Rational Mind is waking up****

so what if Luke is or isnt Jewish, if doesnt make any difference to the truth of what we are told in the bible. We are told that if we go back and begin to think we have to do what the Jews did then and get circumcised and keep all the old laws, we must keep ALL the laws perfectly or we are lost. This applies to you CK, get back to who can save you.
I would far rather trust in what Jesus did for me, because He IS perfect, and we are not and never will be.

[chosenone]

5 For such freedom Christ set us free. Therefore stand fast, and do not let yourselves be confined again in a yoke of slavery.
2 See! I, Paul, am telling YOU that if YOU become circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to YOU. 3 Moreover, I bear witness again to every man getting circumcised that he is under obligation to perform the whole Law. 4 YOU are parted from Christ, whoever YOU are that try to be declared righteous by means of law; YOU have fallen away from his undeserved kindness. 5 For our part we by spirit are eagerly waiting for the hoped-for righteousness as a result of faith. 6 For as regards Christ Jesus neither circumcision is of any value nor is uncircumcision, but faith operating through love [is].

[RB]

I promise that even you will feel this missile.

Oh please! I have not even seen a child's firecracker from you, and you think that you are shooting missiles! That's about like a African woman with a ring through her nose smiling bare breasted, thinks she's something to behold!  The poor soul like you, does not know any better, because she has never seen real beauty...and in your case TRUTH. 

[RB]

Oh boy!! These moderators got me fired up lol!!

Your words prove that you care not to truly debate your position with scriptures, but with individuals, whom you only desire to mock. Why did not you answer my four or five post to you? You took a swipe at one, which is not the way a godly man would do. Go back and at least attempt to answer reply #226, it's short, besides, I'm more convinced now than when you first started, that you are not capable of reasoning out of the OT, much less the NT. Why do you not stop playing silly games and narrow down this thread to DOCTRINE ONLY, and you pick one and stay with it. Let me make a suggestion to you~"How is a man made just with God"?  But, the choice is your. IF you refuse to reasoning properly, or, if you refuse to do so all together, which you have so far with me, then you should be banned form this CHRISTIAN SITE.  AT the moment you are guilty of vain jangling.

1st Timothy 1:5-8...Reads~Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned: From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling; Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;"

By your own testimony you did just what Paul said here in verse 6 about 20 yrs ago: "some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling"....jangling..."A wrangling, noisy fellow; quarreling; sounding discordantly"...that's you my man. Start at least reasoning WITHIN the scriptures or go away. You are appealing unto any and all to use their natural abilities to see if you can harass believers in Jesus Christ, who you truly are mocking. You better have a nice life here, it will be your only one, based upon your many vain words.

Well, my common sense says that if the Biblical volume of books has nothing but Jewish / Hebrew authors in it....then the Bible IS NOT A CHRISTIAN BOOK!!.

Would you care to debate this one subject, and only this one subject with the scriptures?

[k-pappy]

I think this has gone on long enough. I am locking this thread.  If another mod disagree, I will not be offended if you unlock it.