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The Two Great Errors

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Gerhard Ebersöhn

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QuoteRanting, raving, and threatening people with hell fire, explains nothing. The bible does not state exactly when or what hour Christ arose, it does exactly state when humanity first became aware that He had risen, which was early Sunday morning. Nor is the issue as important as you wish to make it, but in your own mind. Your warped perception concerning EGW's support for Sunday sacredness is straight up delusional. Her testimony that the day of Christ's resurrection was a wonderful day, was due to the fact that Christ rose on that day, not any kind of support for the invention of a spurious day of worship to replace the seventh day Sabbath. This is in your own mind alone, it does to exist on the plane of reality. The following are just a few of the very many testimonies she gave concerning the true nature of Sunday sacredness. All emphasis is mine.

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TESTIMONY TREASURES, VOL. 2, PAGE 452
Church Schools*1900, Testimonies for the Church 6:193-205.

The Protestant churches have accepted the spurious sabbath, the child of the papacy, and have exalted it above God's holy, sanctified day. It is our work to make plain to our children that the first day of the week is not the true Sabbath, and that its observance, after light has come to us as to what is the true Sabbath, is a plain contradiction of the law of God. Do our children receive from the teachers in the public schools ideas that are in harmony with the word of God? Is sin presented as an offense against God? Is obedience to all the commandments of God taught as the beginning of all wisdom? We send our children to the Sabbath school that they may be instructed in regard to the truth, and then as they go to the day school, lessons containing falsehood are given them to learn. These things confuse the mind, and should not be; for if the young receive ideas that pervert the truth, how will the influence of this education be counteracted?


THE HOME MISSIONARY
November 1, 1893
Christ Our Helper in the Great Crisis

God will hold men accountable who have the plain teachings of his word, but disregard them and accept the sayings and customs of men. And yet how many are doing this! They reject the light in regard to the Sabbath, and trample upon God's holy day. Ministers and people, with the Bible open before them, show contempt for the words of God in his holy precepts, while they exalt a spurious Sabbath, which has no other foundation than the authority of the Roman Church. The claims of this spurious Sabbath are to be enforced upon the world. The Protestant churches, having received doctrines which the word of God condemns, will bring these to the front, and force them upon the consciences of men, just as the papal authorities urged their dogmas upon the advocates of truth in Luther's time. The same battle is again to be fought, and every soul will be called upon to decide upon which side of the controversy he will be found.

MANUSCRIPT RELEASES, VOL. 17 [NOS. 1236-1300], PAGE 7

"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters" [Revelation 14:6, 7].
This message, if heeded, will call the attention of every nation and kindred and tongue and people to a close examination of the Word, and to the true light in regard to the power that has changed the Seventh-day Sabbath to a spurious sabbath. The only true God has been forsaken, His law has been discarded, His sacred Sabbath institution has been trampled in the dust by the man of sin. The fourth commandment, so plain and explicit, has been ignored. The Sabbath memorial, declaring who the living God is, the Creator of the heavens and the earth, has been torn down, and a spurious sabbath has been given to the world in its place. Thus a breach has been made in the law of God. A false sabbath could not be a true standard.
In the first angel's message men are called upon to worship God, our Creator, who made the world and all things that are therein. They have paid homage to an institution of the Papacy, making of no effect the law of Jehovah, but there is to be an increase of knowledge on this subject.


Ms 71, 1896

The righteous are to pray as never before. God has promised that He will avenge His own elect who cry day and night to Him, though He bear long with them. When truth appears to be overborne by falsehood, when an idol sabbath is erected as was the golden image in the plains of Dura, when the rulers take their place to compel the conscience, and by legislation exalt a spurious sabbath, Protestantism abjures the principles which gave her the name of Protestant, and supports an institution of the Papacy. Then it is time for God to work in indignation and vengeance. To those who give their power to suppress religious liberty He says, "Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire; for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her."


Ms 60, 1893

Directly across the road is the Catholic church. The Roman power has thought to change times and laws. It has claimed the power to change the law of God and to institute the first day of the week as what they call the Christian Sabbath. Here stands the little church to dispute the authority of the power of Rome to change the law of God. Those who are standing in defense of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment are refusing to bow in allegiance to a spurious idol sabbath that has for its authority the Roman Catholic sign or mark.


TESTIMONY TREASURES, VOL. 2, PAGE 318
The Impending Conflict*1889, Testimonies for the Church 5:711-718.

There are many, even of those engaged in this movement for Sunday enforcement, who are blinded to the results which will follow this action. They do not see that they are striking directly against religious liberty. There are many who have never understood the claims of the Bible Sabbath and the false foundation upon which the Sunday institution rests. Any movement in favor of religious legislation is really an act of concession to the papacy, which for so many ages has steadily warred against liberty of conscience. Sunday observance owes its existence as a so-called Christian institution to "the mystery of iniquity;" and its enforcement will be a virtual recognition of the principles which are the very cornerstone of Romanism. When our nation shall so abjure the principles of its government as to enact a Sunday law, Protestantism will in this act join hands with popery; it will be nothing else than giving life to the tyranny which has long been eagerly watching its opportunity to spring again into active despotism.


COUNSELS TO WRITERS AND EDITORS, PAGE 97

To Meet the Sunday-Law Movement—I do hope that the trumpet will give a certain sound in regard to this Sunday-law movement. I think that it would be best if in our papers the subject of the perpetuity of the law of God were made a specialty. Should there not be a paper or a pamphlet issued to take the place of the Sentinel? I have not been able to think that it was the wise thing to do to let that paper drop. It was a voice that was constantly speaking in defense of religious liberty. The truth should be presented in short articles, in clear, distinct lines, giving special points in regard to the Lord's Sabbath, and showing that those who frame laws to compel the observance of the first day of the week, are disloyal to the Lord of heaven, who placed His sanctity upon the seventh day. Are we doing all we can to exalt the law of Jehovah?
We should now be doing our very best to defeat this Sunday law. The best way to do this will be to lift up the law of God and make it stand forth in all its sacredness. This must be done if the truth triumphs.—Letter 58, 1906.


The Coming Crisis*1885, Testimonies for the Church 5:449-454.

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17. In the near future we shall see these words fulfilled as the Protestant churches unite with the world and with the papal power against commandment keepers. The same spirit which actuated papists in ages past will lead Protestants to pursue a similar course toward those who will maintain their loyalty to God.
Church and state are now making preparations for the future conflict. Protestants are working in disguise to bring Sunday to the front, as did the Romanists. Throughout the land the papacy is piling up her lofty and massive structures, in the secret recesses of which her former persecutions are to be repeated. And the way is preparing for the manifestation, on a grand scale, of those lying wonders by which, if it were possible, Satan would deceive even the elect.
The decree which is to go forth against the people of God will be very similar to that issued by Ahasuerus against the Jews in the time of Esther. The Persian edict sprang from the malice of Haman toward Mordecai. Not that Mordecai had done him harm, but he had refused to show him reverence which belongs only to God. The king's decision against the Jews was secured under false pretenses through misrepresentation of that peculiar people. Satan instigated the scheme in order to rid the earth of those who preserved the knowledge of the true God. But his plots were defeated by a counterpower that reigns among the children of men. Angels that excel in strength were commissioned to protect the people of God, and the plots of their adversaries returned upon their own heads. The Protestant world today see in the little company keeping the Sabbath a Mordecai in the gate. His character and conduct, expressing reverence for the law of God, are a constant rebuke to those who have cast off the fear of the Lord and are trampling upon His Sabbath; the unwelcome intruder must by some means be put out of the way.
The same masterful mind that plotted against the faithful in ages past is still seeking to rid the earth of those who fear God and obey His law. Satan will excite indignation against the humble minority who conscientiously refuse to accept popular customs and traditions. Men of position and reputation will join with the lawless and the vile to take counsel against the people of God. Wealth, genius, education, will combine to cover them with contempt. Persecuting rulers, ministers, and church members will conspire against them. With voice and pen, by boasts, threats, and ridicule, they will seek to overthrow their faith. By false representations and angry appeals they will stir up the passions of the people. Not having a "Thus saith the Scriptures" to bring against the advocates of the Bible Sabbath, they will resort to oppressive enactments to supply the lack. To secure popularity and patronage, legislators will yield to the demand for a Sunday law. Those who fear God cannot accept an institution that violates a precept of the Decalogue. On this battlefield comes the last great conflict of the controversy between truth and error. And we are not left in doubt as to the issue. Now, as in the days of Mordecai, the Lord will vindicate His truth and His people.


THE WATCHMAN
July 14, 1908

The Government of GodThere is one pointed out in prophecy as the man of sin. Taking the suggestion of Satan concerning the law of God, which is as unchangeable as his throne, the man of sin represents to the world that he has changed that law, and that the first day of the week instead of the seventh is now the Sabbath. Professing infallibility, he claims the right to change the law of God to suit his own purposes. By so doing he exalts himself above God, and leaves the world to infer that God is fallible. If it were indeed true that God made a rule of government that needed to be changed, it would certainly show fallibility.
But Christ declared that not one jot or tittle of the law should fail until heaven and earth should pass away. The very work that he came to do was to exalt that law, and show to the universe that God is just and his law unchangeable. But here is the papacy trying to amend the law; and the Christian world has sanctioned its efforts by adopting the Sunday institution.
God has borne long with the perversity of the human race; he has tried to win them to himself. But the time will come when they will have filled their measure of iniquity; and then it is that God will work. This time is almost reached. God keeps a record with the nations in the books of heaven, and soon their cup will be full. And every one who sees the light in regard to the law of God, should help to repair the breach that has been made in that law by the man of sin. "And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places; thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations. And thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honorable, and shalt honor him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words; then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father; for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."
We should consider that it was not merely to accomplish the redemption of man that Christ came to earth; it was not merely that the inhabitants of this little world might have a just regard for the law of God; but it was to demonstrate to all the worlds that the divine law is unchangeable, and that the wages of sin is death. The very fact that it was necessary for him to give his life for the fallen race, shows that the law of God will not release man from one tittle of its claims upon him. The fact that he bore the penalty of transgression is a mighty argument to all created intelligences, in heaven and in other worlds, that that law is changeless; that God is righteous, merciful, and self-denying; and that his administration is one of justice and mercy.


MANUSCRIPT RELEASES, VOL. 17 [NOS. 1236-1300], PAGE 81

We must not be afraid of being singular. Do not court singularity for the sake of being odd, but for the sake of avoiding sin and dishonor to God. And in this case we are not to mind even the multitude who are against us. "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil" (Exodus 23:2). Because the law of God is made void in our world, does it make it a virtue to transgress that law? It may appear to the world a very small matter for the Christian to be in harmony with the world by just the act of keeping Sunday for the Sabbath in the place of the seventh day, but God's Word says the seventh day is "My holy day." The man of sin says, "I make a sabbath for you and you must keep the first day of the week."
The God-fearing Christian sees that Satan is tempting, "Worship me" and "all these things will I give thee." But naked duty must be chosen. Worship God in obeying His commandments, and [do] not bow the knee to the man of sin. Let not Satan's bribe be accepted, but manfully be true to God. Even if the world calls you singular, that which is right in God's sight, do. "He that walketh uprightly walketh surely" (Proverbs 10:9).
We thank the Lord that a few have had the moral courage in Nimes to cease to longer transgress the law of God, to accept the light and take their position firmly to keep the Sabbath that God has sanctified and blessed. Let the light shine forth from these few in bright, steady rays, reflecting light upon those who are in darkness. Said Christ to His disciples, "Ye are the light of the world."


THE GREAT CONTROVERSY, PAGE 589 - 592

Through spiritualism, Satan appears as a benefactor of the race, healing the diseases of the people, and professing to present a new and more exalted system of religious faith; but at the same time he works as a destroyer. His temptations are leading multitudes to ruin. Intemperance dethrones reason; sensual indulgence, strife, and bloodshed follow. Satan delights in war, for it excites the worst passions of the soul and then sweeps into eternity its victims steeped in vice and blood. It is his object to incite the nations to war against one another, for he can thus divert the minds of the people from the work of preparation to stand in the day of God.
Satan works through the elements also to garner his harvest of unprepared souls. He has studied the secrets of the laboratories of nature, and he uses all his power to control the elements as far as God allows. When he was suffered to afflict Job, how quickly flocks and herds, servants, houses, children, were swept away, one trouble succeeding another as in a moment. It is God that shields His creatures and hedges them in from the power of the destroyer. But the Christian world have shown contempt for the law of Jehovah; and the Lord will do just what He has declared that He would—He will withdraw His blessings from the earth and remove His protecting care from those who are rebelling against His law and teaching and forcing others to do the same. Satan has control of all whom God does not especially guard. He will favor and prosper some in order to further his own designs, and he will bring trouble upon others and lead men to believe that it is God who is afflicting them.
While appearing to the children of men as a great physician who can heal all their maladies, he will bring disease and disaster, until populous cities are reduced to ruin and desolation. Even now he is at work. In accidents and calamities by sea and by land, in great conflagrations, in fierce tornadoes and terrific hailstorms, in tempests, floods, cyclones, tidal waves, and earthquakes, in every place and in a thousand forms, Satan is exercising his power. He sweeps away the ripening harvest, and famine and distress follow. He imparts to the air a deadly taint, and thousands perish by the pestilence. These visitations are to become more and more frequent and disastrous. Destruction will be upon both man and beast. "The earth mourneth and fadeth away," "the haughty people ... do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant." Isaiah 24:4, 5.
And then the great deceiver will persuade men that those who serve God are causing these evils. The class that have provoked the displeasure of Heaven will charge all their troubles upon those whose obedience to God's commandments is a perpetual reproof to transgressors. It will be declared that men are offending God by the violation of the Sunday sabbath; that this sin has brought calamities which will not cease until Sunday observance shall be strictly enforced; and that those who present the claims of the fourth commandment, thus destroying reverence for Sunday, are troublers of the people, preventing their restoration to divine favor and temporal prosperity. Thus the accusation urged of old against the servant of God will be repeated and upon grounds equally well established: "And it came to pass, when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, Art thou he that troubleth Israel? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel; but thou, and thy father's house, in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the Lord, and thou hast followed Baalim." 1 Kings 18:17, 18. As the wrath of the people shall be excited by false charges, they will pursue a course toward God's ambassadors very similar to that which apostate Israel pursued toward Elijah.
The miracle-working power manifested through spiritualism will exert its influence against those who choose to obey God rather than men. Communications from the spirits will declare that God has sent them to convince the rejecters of Sunday of their error, affirming that the laws of the land should be obeyed as the law of God. They will lament the great wickedness in the world and second the testimony of religious teachers that the degraded state of morals is caused by the desecration of Sunday. Great will be the indignation excited against all who refuse to accept their testimony.
Satan's policy in this final conflict with God's people is the same that he employed in the opening of the great controversy in heaven. He professed to be seeking to promote the stability of the divine government, while secretly bending every effort to secure its overthrow. And the very work which he was thus endeavoring to accomplish he charged upon the loyal angels. The same policy of deception has marked the history of the Roman Church. It has professed to act as the vicegerent of Heaven, while seeking to exalt itself above God and to change His law. Under the rule of Rome, those who suffered death for their fidelity to the gospel were denounced as evildoers; they were declared to be in league with Satan; and every possible means was employed to cover them with reproach, to cause them to appear in the eyes of the people and even to themselves as the vilest of criminals. So it will be now. While Satan seeks to destroy those who honor God's law, he will cause them to be accused as lawbreakers, as men who are dishonoring God and bringing judgments upon the world.
God never forces the will or the conscience; but Satan's constant resort—to gain control of those whom he cannot otherwise seduce—is compulsion by cruelty. Through fear or force he endeavors to rule the conscience and to secure homage to himself. To accomplish this, he works through both religious and secular authorities, moving them to the enforcement of human laws in defiance of the law of God.
Those who honor the Bible Sabbath will be denounced as enemies of law and order, as breaking down the moral restraints of society, causing anarchy and corruption, and calling down the judgments of God upon the earth. Their conscientious scruples will be pronounced obstinacy, stubbornness, and contempt of authority. They will be accused of disaffection toward the government. Ministers who deny the obligation of the divine law will present from the pulpit the duty of yielding obedience to the civil authorities as ordained of God. In legislative halls and courts of justice, commandment keepers will be misrepresented and condemned. A false coloring will be given to their words; the worst construction will be put upon their motives.
As the Protestant churches reject the clear, Scriptural arguments in defense of God's law, they will long to silence those whose faith they cannot overthrow by the Bible. Though they blind their own eyes to the fact, they are now adopting a course which will lead to the persecution of those who conscientiously refuse to do what the rest of the Christian world are doing, and acknowledge the claims of the papal sabbath.
The dignitaries of church and state will unite to bribe, persuade, or compel all classes to honor the Sunday. The lack of divine authority will be supplied by oppressive enactments. Political corruption is destroying love of justice and regard for truth; and even in free America, rulers and legislators, in order to secure public favor, will yield to the popular demand for a law enforcing Sunday observance. Liberty of conscience, which has cost so great a sacrifice, will no longer be respected. In the soon-coming conflict we shall see exemplified the prophet's words: "The dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Revelation 12:17.

You ignore all of the above testimony and much more not quoted above, and zero in on one statement to the effect that the day of Christ's resurrection was a glorious day due to the same, and claim that this one statement means EGW supported Sunday sacredness. This is twisted reasoning, and you are the perpetrator of it. Your are making a mountain out of a non existent mole hill, and bearing false testimony about the witness and intentions of another who professes Jesus Christ as Lord. Please do reconsider your position in light of the same. 

You are, o, so right! 'Ranting, raving, and threatening people with hell fire, explains nothing.' and, I do, 'ignore' and REJECT 'all of the above --FAKE-- threatening'!

Amo

QuoteThen it took 'humanity...exactly' from that Christ had been BURIED, ANOTHER (3rd) day that He was buried "WHEN LATE ON THE SABBATH IN THE MID-INCLINING-DAYLIGHT-SHINING (3PM) THERE SUDDENLY WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD FROM HEAVEN DESCENDING, APPEARING, CAST THE STONE FROM THE GRAVE..."  and 'humanity' unsuspecting, unawares, NEVER thought to see Him "risen and alive / raised and alive" AGAIN...

The above is not scripture. If it is, give the chapter and verse. If it isn't it means nothing.

Amo

Quote from: Gerhard Ebersöhn on Sun Dec 03, 2017 - 11:30:36
You are, o, so right! 'Ranting, raving, and threatening people with hell fire, explains nothing.' and, I do, 'ignore' and REJECT 'all of the above --FAKE-- testimony'!

Yea, I know, never mind what she actually said, she said what you say she said.

Gerhard Ebersöhn

#108
QuoteThe above is not scripture. If it is, give the chapter and verse. If it isn't it means nothing.

Dag drie : Die engel van die Here en die OPSTANDING

Matteus 28:1-4
... maar laat op die Sabbat in die mid-namiddag
... ὀψὲ δὲ σαββάτων, τῇ ἐπιφωσκούσῃ
. . . [but] in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn

teen die Eerste Dag van die week, het Maria Magdalena
εἰς μίαν σαββάτων, ἦλθεν Μαριὰμ ἡ Μαγδαληνὴ
towards the First Day of the week, came May Magdalene

en die ander Maria uitgegaan om te gaan kyk (na) die graf.
καὶ ἡ ἄλλη Μαρία θεωρῆσαι τὸν τάφον.
and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

2 Maar net toe was daar 'n groot aardbewing want 'n engel
καὶ ἰδοὺ σεισμὸς ἐγένετο μέγας· ἄγγελος γὰρ
And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel

van die Here het uit die hemel neergedaal en soos hy aankom,
Κυρίου καταβὰς ἐξ οὐρανοῦ καὶ προσελθὼν
of the Lord descended from heaven, and came

het hy die klip weggewerp van die deur af en daarop gaan sit.
ἀπεκύλισεν τὸν λίθον (ἀπὸ τῆς θύρας) καὶ ἐκάθητο ἐπάνω αὐτοῦ.
and rolled the stone from the door, and sat on it.

3 Sy verskyning was soos weerlig en sy kleding wit soos sneeu.
ἦν δὲ ἡ εἰδέα αὐτοῦ ὡς ἀστραπὴ, καὶ τὸ ἔνδυμα αὐτοῦ λευκὸν ὡς χιών.
His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow.

4 Van skrik vir hom het die wagte stuiptrekkend neergeval
ἀπὸ δὲ τοῦ φόβου αὐτοῦ ἐσείσθησαν οἱ τηροῦντες
And for fear of him the keepers did shake,

en bewusteloos geword soos dooies,
καὶ ἐγενήθησαν ὡς (ἐγένοντο ὡσεὶ) νεκροί.
and became as dead.

5a het die engel aan die vroue verduidelik . . .
ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ ἄγγελος εἶπεν ταῖς γυναιξίν . . .
answered the angel ... the women . . .

"in the end of the Sabbath" is literal, "in the mid-inclining-day-light-shining / being turned towards the First Day of the week"
"in the", 'tehi'
"mid-inclining", 'epi' -
"day-light", 'phohs'
"-shining / being-", 'ous+ehi'
"turned unto" / "beginning to dawn towards" KJV, 'eis'
"the First Day of the week", 'mian (hehmeran) sabbatohn'.

Matthew 28:1 in 'old' and 'new translations
http://biblehub.com/goc/matthew/28.htm
1Ὀψὲ δὲ σαββάτων, τῇ ἐπιφωσκούσῃ εἰς μίαν σαββάτων, ἦλθε Μαρία ἡ Μαγδαληνὴ καὶ ἡ ἄλλη Μαρία θεωρῆσαι τὸν τάφον. 2καὶ ἰδοὺ σεισμὸς ἐγένετο μέγας· ἄγγελος γὰρ Κυρίου καταβὰς ἐξ οὐρανοῦ προσελθὼν ἀπεκύλισε τὸν λίθον ἀπὸ τῆς θύρας καὶ ἐκάθητο ἐπάνω αὐτοῦ. 3ἦν δὲ ἡ ἰδέα αὐτοῦ ὡς ἀστραπὴ καὶ τὸ ἔνδυμα αὐτοῦ λευκὸν ὡσεὶ χιών. 4ἀπὸ δὲ τοῦ φόβου αὐτοῦ ἐσείσθησαν οἱ τηροῦντες καὶ ἐγένοντο ὡσεὶ νεκροί. 5ἀποκριθεὶς δὲ ὁ ἄγγελος εἶπε ταῖς γυναιξί·
1Ὀψὲ δὲ σαββάτων, τῇ ἐπιφωσκούσῃ εἰς μίαν σαββάτων,
'opse de sabbatohn tehi epiphohskousehi eis Mian sabbatohn':-
KJV 1611,
"In the end of the Sabbath as it (the end of the Sabbath) began to dawn towards the First Day of the week...."
Literal: "In Sabbath's fullness being-in- the mid-inclining-day-light towards the First Day of the week",
'opse sabbatohn', "Sabbath's fullness-of-day"
'tehi', "in the"
'epi', "mid-inclining"
'phohs', "day-light"
'ous-ehi', "being(shining)"
'eis', "beginning to dawn towards / against / before / unto"
'Mian (hehmeran) sabbatohn', "the First Day of the week".
Αφού δε επέρασε το σάββατον, περί τα χαράγματα της πρώτης
ημέρας της εβδομάδος ήλθε Μαρία η Μαγδαληνή και η άλλη
Μαρία, διά να θεωρήσωσι τον τάφον.
Μετάφραση Νεόφυτου Βάμβα. Greek: N. Vamvas (Bambas) New
Testament. [published after 1924]
'Αφού' ('aphíehmi'), 'to let go', 'to let pass'; 'aphosioûsthai tohi
theohi', 'time to make expiatory offerings to a god'.
'επέρασε' from 'perisseúoh', 'surplus', 'excess', 'residue'; 'ta
peritteúonta', 'what remains over'.
'peri', 'the latter', 'about'.
'το σάββατον' Nominative Subject, 'the Sabbath (Seventh Day) of
the week'.
'τα χαράγματα' from 'to cháragma', 'palisade', 'mark', 'trench'.
'της πρώτης ημέρας', 'of the First Day'
'της εβδομάδος' for 'sabbátohn', 'of the week'.
Thus...
"The Seventh Day of the week the latter outgoing remaining
time at the marking (dawn) of the First Day of the week."
Καὶ ἤγγισεν εἰς τὴν μίαν σαββάτων οὗ ἐπορεύετο / ἐπορεύθη τὸ σάββατον [GE]
Objector:
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
GE:
I'm saying in 'alternative' Greek just what Matthew 28:1a says and means.
Literally, I am saying,
Καὶ ἤγγισεν εἰς τὴν μίαν σαββάτων οὗ ἐπορεύετο / ἐπορεύθη τὸ σάββατον
"And drew near to the First Day of the week the Sabbath while going out" or "Then while the Sabbath was ending and approached the First Day of the week . . .".
In other words, I make "The Sabbath" the Subject, Nominative, "drawing near to the First Day and going out at its end when there suddenly was a great earthquake and the angel of the Lord descended."
Does it now make sense?
Turkish:
<< Matta 28 >>
Matthew 28 Turkish
1  Şabat Gününü izleyen haftanın ilk günü, tan yeri ağarırken, Mecdelli Meryem ile öbür Meryem mezarı görmeye gittiler
a. 'Sabat'—Sabbath
'Gününü'—Daylight shining
'izleyen'—Light surplus following in the end
'haftanın'—of the week (Sabbath)
'ilk'—middle moderate / coming (towards)
'günü'—sun (down) eclipse (turning of)
'tan'—dawn witness diagnose define towards
'yeri'—seat rest
'ağarırken'-'agir'—slow down lazy, and -'irk'—dark night
b. 'Mecdelli Meryem'—Mary Magdalene
'ile öbür Meryem'—with the other Mary
'mezarı'—to the grave
'görmeye'—to see / to visit
'gittiler'—stepped out began to proceed (on purpose / by degree - began to)

Gerhard Ebersöhn

#109
You need more?

There are 32 English Bibles from the 18th century and 64 English Bibles from the 19th century plus I can't remember how many English Bibles from before the 18th century PLUS a number OF THE BEST from the 20th century, ALL virtually exactly the same as above.

One in particular, 1961 and 1968 I think or perhaps 1941 and 1948 an English translation which used 850 common English words and 150 specific Bible words in English, that is, ONLY 1000 most common ENGLISH words to translate the WHOLE Bible with, and USES "late on the Sabbath, towards the First Day of the week" in Matthew 28:1!

But the omniscient SDA Amo knows better and declares like one hell of a RC pontif, Quote, 'The above is not scripture. If it is, give the chapter and verse. If it isn't it means nothing.'

Gerhard Ebersöhn

Amo:
QuoteYea, I know, never mind what she actually said, she said what you say she said.

GE:
I have said it several times, and now say it again, that the SDA church and its PEOPLE are those who have made of Mrs. E.G. White and of the writings of Mrs E.G. White the intimidating monstrosity she (it) is become.

Gerhard Ebersöhn

These are the last days we are living in. These are my last days I am living out. Do not expect of me to spare the fraud the cane of God's Word!

Amo


Amo


Amo

All emphasis in the following quotes which may be viewed at the links provided is mine.

https://fatherofloveandmercy.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/crusade-prayer-28-virgin-mary-prayer-for-unification-of-all-christian-churches/

QuoteCrusade of Prayer (28) Virgin Mary prayer for unification of all Christian Churches

All of you with a devotion to my Son must put your differences aside and join together to fight the anti-christ.

Pray for the unification of all God's children through this special Crusade Prayer (28)


"O God of the Most High, we kneel before You to beg for the unification of all Your children in the fight to retain Your Christian Churches on earth.

Let not our differences divide us at this time of great apostasy in the world.

In our love for You, dear Father, we beseech You to give us the graces to love one another in the Name of Your beloved Son, Our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

We adore You.  We love You.   We unite to fight for the strength to retain Your Christian Churches on earth in the trials we may face in the years ahead. Amen."

Trust in me children to guide you towards the New Paradise and my Son's reign on earth as it is meant to be.

Your loving Mother
Mother of Salvation


https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2013/08/08/unification-of-all-christians-in-one-church/

Unification of all Christians in one Church

by Ron Conte

excerpt from my book: The Secrets of La Salette and the End Times:

Quote3. "A protestant nation from the north will convert to the faith and, by means of this nation, the other nations will return to the faith."

Here the Virgin Mary is clearly predicting the unification of all Christians in one holy Catholic Church. One Christian denomination returns first, and then the others follow. But this particular Protestant denomination is closely associated with a nation, a nation in the north. The only Protestant Church that fits this description is the Anglican Church, also called the Church of England. Anglicanism is the official State religion of England (although citizens are free to worship as they choose). The other Protestant Churches are not so closely associated with any nation. Therefore, the Anglican Church returns to unity with the Catholic Church first. Then, by means of their return, the other Protestant denominations follow, one Church after another, one nation after another.

It is remarkable, even astounding, that we are already seeing the beginning of this prophecy unfold. The Catholic Church has approved of Anglican Ordinariates, which are a type of diocese for Anglicans who have converted to become fully Catholic. But they organize themselves in what is like a diocese, but not strictly tied to a geographic location. An Anglican Ordinariate would generally overlap at least a few different dioceses, but as if the Ordinariate were a separate diocese. These Ordinariates have a different form for the Mass. They permit the use of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer. The Mass is similar to the Anglican worship services, but the celebrant is a validly-ordained Catholic priest (perhaps a convert from Anglicanism) and the Mass is entirely licit.......................................

The dead want us all to unite back under the Church of Rome. Protestants who identified the Church of Rome as the system of anti-christ, are now to return to her in order to fight anti-christ. So why has changed and is expected to continue to change in this scenario?

Amo


Amo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-vWIMRE9w

Takes a while to get to the part about Mary, informative video. Some will learn from it, some will despise it.

Gerhard Ebersöhn

#117
Quote
Amo:
Quote Gerhard Ebersöhn
Then it took 'humanity...exactly' from that Christ had been BURIED, ANOTHER (3rd) day that He was buried "WHEN LATE ON THE SABBATH IN THE MID-INCLINING-DAYLIGHT-SHINING (3PM) THERE SUDDENLY WAS A GREAT EARTHQUAKE AND THE ANGEL OF THE LORD FROM HEAVEN DESCENDING, APPEARING, CAST THE STONE FROM THE GRAVE..."  and 'humanity' unsuspecting, unawares, NEVER thought to see Him "risen and alive / raised and alive" AGAIN...

Amo:
Re: The Two Great Errors
« Reply #106 on: Sun Dec 03, 2017 - 11:33:28 »
The above is not scripture. If it is, give the chapter and verse. If it isn't it means nothing.

GE answers:

The above is Matthew 28:1-4 refer post #108

Now do you say 'humanity' suspecting, awares, thought to see Him "risen and alive / raised and alive" AGAIN ?!

Now you can see the SDA do exactly what the rest of Christianity, the RC, the Anglicans, Lutherans and the WHOLE of Protestantism are DOING: CHANGE the Law and Times of God where it MATTERS: Where the Scriptures USED to say "On the Sabbath before the First Day", to now force it to say, 'AFTER the Sabbath ON the First Day' as Justin Martyr gave them the first example and was sainted for it by them.

Amo


Amo

#119
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS1GC2kX9HY

This woman knows something is wrong, her eyes are being opened. I don't think she quite grasps the facilitating nature of the leadership of her church towards the accomplishment of its goals. They ride upon the back of governments and elites manipulating the same toward the realization of world domination. They can and will just as easily ride upon the back of a conservative movement fighting against the lefty agenda Rome is now riding upon, if and when a paradigm shift occurs in that direction. Which appears to be picking up momentum currently. In any case, the above reveals Rome's methodology in embracing and accommodating the worlds elites while steering them unto the fulfillment of her own religio-political agenda. While she seeks to serve and rely upon the dead rather than God, it is not likely that her eyes can be opened to the deceptive teachings and practices of the institution she belongs to unto deliverance from the same. Come out, come out of her God's people.

Amo


Amo


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