Why does the NFL allow Kaepernick to be a jerk at work?

[Daemon Blackfyre]

I don't have a family bond with 22 million something minus people, I mean what?

I don't like basing things upon nationstates. I wish people could consolidate structured social systems without arbitrary conditions established by formed hierarchies (though I will admit there are better methods of forming them than others). I wish people could make identities of themselves, to have character of themselves to lean upon, instead of falling back on a collective identity defined by some ochlocratically agreed upon authority seen to represent the in some poor form the total sum on individuals within and equally arbitrary, authorised to use violence by said populous upon said populous and similar powers.

If my ancestors did anything worthy, it is because they were virtuous, not because they were Australian (even if they did it for Australia).

I'll save the rest of my quasi-anarchistic rant for some future angst I'll have in the Politics board inspired by the inexperienced passion of youth. Let's just say no one born chose their kingdom nor their world and see no reason why they must inherently show devotions to the kingdoms of this world.

[TonkaTim]

Yup, No one chose their inheritance, but by providence it is the one received.

If you'll notice I quoted rebels who were in the beginning stages of rebellion, so by definition of example I'm not saying one must be unconditionally loyal to a " man-made government" but to ones family & the familial inheritance. Especially for the sake of posterity, which is one's children.

All successful societies hinge on the moral family. It is the foundation & cohesive bond that holds together society. Families develop into tribes, the tribal state, which develops into the city/nation state.

Even Christianity  & Christian hierarchy is based on this premise; The Kingdom of God. Where God is represented as our Father & we as His children. The very reason we call our fellow Christians brother & sister.


The radical ideas of Internationalism, Globalism, One World, Communism, whatever one wants to call it,  has broken  the idea of these traditional familial bonds. It is why we find society is such a mess & in such great disharmony. Why to the youth traditional patriotism (patriarchism) is sooo passe'. Making the immediate gratification of the individual more far important than duty & love towards ones family. Which is why societies are breaking down. Why too many parents are drunkards, dopers, & sexual miscreants, leaving their children to be raised by pop culture, & a amoral corrupted state making each generation worse than the previous.

[mommydi]

+1 TonkaTim. Excellent, thought provoking comments.

[Daemon Blackfyre]

And I'm not an actual anarchist because of pragmatism and I live in a social species that establishes hierarchies. It's not a new thing to question that, ideas like globalisation it's just showing an evolution of it, as we went from empires to nationstates, so we transition from nationstates to transnational economic zones.

But back to that appreciation thing - being glad I'm in a country doesn't mean I have to be proud of it and further, it doesn't make sense to do so because again, random area of land defined by a power that is taken to represent people in area, solidified by ochlocratic opinion and violent force.

The Kingdom of God is different: I'm pretty sure the authority of a deity has more to it than he declarations of humans. Also, my family sucks dude, fairdinkum, that connotation dead set shot. I'll leave it at I was born 15 years ago already physically addicted to amphetamine and you can fill in the rest. Might want to try a different analogy to dissolve my dissolution from the idea that authority accepted by most necessitates respect or pride.

[RB]

+1 TonkaTim. Excellent, thought provoking comments.

This brother always has good things to say, if one would take the time to read his post. +1 TonkaTim...There is without question a profit for all to be from a certain nation, "if" that nation's God is the Lord Jehovah.

Romans 3:1,2~"What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God."

How many nations under heaven have on their money~"In God we trust"? It is the official motto of the United States. I'm  grateful for that, and many others are as well.

Psalms 33:12~"Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.:

I know this is true mainly of spiritual Israel~ yet, it is also true of any nation in this world that honours the word of God above the opinions of man.

[Texas Conservative]

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/kaepernick-jersey-sales-soar-amid-controversy/story?id=41861482

"Kaepernick Jersey Sales Soar!"


We have to remember we are anachronisms & the America we knew as children & younger adults is no more & it is not coming back. When the Baby-Boomer generation finally dies off so does America. That is reality.


I feel great sorrow for what is called the Millennial generation (our grandchildren & great-grandchildren). Especially for those that were raised with traditional values because they will be few in number & will be sorely mistreated by society because all things traditionally Christian & American will be held in great contempt.


It should be obvious just by the current Presidential campaign. The candidate who represents all things against traditional America basically does not have to campaign. She has basically just going to fundraisers with the rich & famous since the Demo Convention doing very little campaigning feeling confident in the values disparity in our country. While the other candidate has to campaign furiously to get a semi-traditional platform to seem acceptable.


So, to me Kaepernick is not a major problem because he is just a symptom of a far greater problem.

The baby boomer generation already killed America.

[TonkaTim]

And I'm not an actual anarchist because of pragmatism and I live in a social species that establishes hierarchies. It's not a new thing to question that, ideas like globalisation it's just showing an evolution of it, as we went from empires to nationstates, so we transition from nationstates to transnational economic zones.

But back to that appreciation thing - being glad I'm in a country doesn't mean I have to be proud of it and further, it doesn't make sense to do so because again, random area of land defined by a power that is taken to represent people in area, solidified by ochlocratic opinion and violent force.

The Kingdom of God is different: I'm pretty sure the authority of a deity has more to it than he declarations of humans. Also, my family sucks dude, fairdinkum, that connotation dead set shot. I'll leave it at I was born 15 years ago already physically addicted to amphetamine and you can fill in the rest. Might want to try a different analogy to dissolve my dissolution from the idea that authority accepted by most necessitates respect or pride.

Daemon, the internationalism is based on propaganda to undermine all things Godly.


As I said above, true patriotism, is about familial bonds: duty & love for family, especially one's children. That motivation, that love, that sense of duty, is to provoke one to do well for them. To secure them a Godly inheritance in this world to prepare them for their inheritance in the next. Therefore patriotism is not blind allegiance to " ochlocratic opinion and violent force" because when it comes down to that it is only the true patriot who would care enough to correct it.


I truly hate that, as you say, your "family sucks" & did not do right by you. I hate even more that you have drug addiction. But, I can tell by your literacy & comprehension at such a young age your are intelligent. Which is a good start & part of your inheritance. So be thankful for that.

But, because your family is not good does not mean that you are condemned to be like them. Whether you believe it or not you can overcome. I can only assume you are here because you have some desire for godliness. I would highly recommend embracing that desire. To embrace Christ. To read the Word desiring the Wisdom of God contained therein so that when the time comes you can pass it on to when you have children as their inheritance. So they will be patriotic towards you because of your love & sense of duty to them & God.

[Daemon Blackfyre]

You get that Christianity is benefitted by globalisation because of outreach right? And that Christianity, and Abrahmic ideas as a whole, as a historical phenomena due to their prevalence through empires: First the formalisation of Catholicism in the former Western Roman EMpire and Orthadoxy in the Byzantine Empire, as well as the Priming of Abramic ideas via the Islamic Caliphates before the expansion of post-Renaissance European empires into the New World and East? also, I mean if you want to conflate patriotism as it means now to its etymological roots of family, should that not be extended to humanity as a whole and not to area of land defined by collective identity and force?

Had* an addicition. I went through withdrawal when I was a new born so I don't remember it, I'm sure you know that some things can pass through the umbilical cord better than others, and though I did experiment with recreational substances later I am not currently physically dependant on any substance. Go easy on the coping mechanisms while your pregnant, kids.

I'm here because my Muslim mate talking about God being the most fatherly fathers, while having existential mental flips over being a single teen dad, reminded me of when my dead nan took me to church before she died when I was 7 - as with my days with going to church. I came here as one of a couple of methods to see if I could win that back. To undo me.




Could you respond to this in a message or something? I feel bad for hijacking threads like this

[TonkaTim]

You get that Christianity is benefitted by globalisation because of outreach right? And that Christianity, and Abrahmic ideas as a whole, as a historical phenomena due to their prevalence through empires: First the formalisation of Catholicism in the former Western Roman EMpire and Orthadoxy in the Byzantine Empire, as well as the Priming of Abramic ideas via the Islamic Caliphates before the expansion of post-Renaissance European empires into the New World and East? also, I mean if you want to conflate patriotism as it means now to its etymological roots of family, should that not be extended to humanity as a whole and not to area of land defined by collective identity and force?

Had* an addicition. I went through withdrawal when I was a new born so I don't remember it, I'm sure you know that some things can pass through the umbilical cord better than others, and though I did experiment with recreational substances later I am not currently physically dependant on any substance. Go easy on the coping mechanisms while your pregnant, kids.

I'm here because my Muslim mate talking about God being the most fatherly fathers, while having existential mental flips over being a single teen dad, reminded me of when my dead nan took me to church before she died when I was 7 - as with my days with going to church. I came here as one of a couple of methods to see if I could win that back. To undo me.

You said ; "To undo me"


That is the power of God.


The Creator can definitely make you a new creation. He can instill in you a new mind, a new heart, to create in you the desire for Godliness. To desire all the things He loves.


Based on what you have told me, you have set a difficult road before yourself already. Our Father can lead you down that rocky path & get you on straight path that will teach you to love Him & yourself. It will not always be easy because there so much we must learn in life to function as Godly people. It is so much harder for one who has not been given a godly inheritance. But then again a wise man once said "that which is gained too easily is esteemed too lightly". In time your rocky start may turn out to be a great blessing due to character built overcoming. I'll add you to my prayer list little brother & pray that the strength & faith needed to overcome are given to you in great abundance.



edit: Just noticed your edit; I'd be more than happy to talk to about anything in PM.

[TonkaTim]

Daemon,

On Globalization & Christianity.


The Gospel of Jesus Christ (Christianity) was meant to go Global from the beginning. But the ideas of modern globalization & Christianity are antithetical. They are diametrically opposed. Internationalism usurps the authority & morality of God over the rule of mankind & replaces it the ideals of secular humanism. Placing mankind in rebellion to God through the ideals of the 'isms'. The idea that man knows better than God.


Did the spread of Christianity benefit from trade routes between nations? Absolutely.

But that said, trade between nations & Globalization is two different things.

Peaceful trade between sovereign nations helps foster peace between nations but is motivated to promote the prosperity of the peoples of the nations.


Globalization is motivated to promote the prosperity of international corporations at the expense of the peoples of the nations.


I'm not a fan of corporatism. I'm an advocate of free enterprise, but not corporatism. It is like any system that consolidates power into the hands of the few. When that happens only the few benefit. One can call it many things, communism, fascism, corporatism, ultimately it ends in the same place. Power in the hands of the few, Tyranny.


That is all Anarchy is, a destabilizing force to create a vacuum enabling the rise of a political 'ism'. A political reset so to speak. If left to nature it will reset around the family & tribalism to ensure the survival of those who mutually love one another. In this modern world odds are that can not happen. Thus is is just a setup for authoritarianism to bring order from chaos.


I honestly think that is the purpose for all these destabilizing ideals being interjected into societies. To bring about chaos, anarchy, to create the global environment where the people of the world will demand a global authoritarian state. Which will give them what they think is "peace & safety".

I'm not one who thinks what is happening in the world is by coincidence, but by design. I believe there is a designer manipulating men. I believe that designer is a malevolent force.

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12

[Daemon Blackfyre]

Just a definition thing, anarchy doesn't mean anomie nor chaos.

Actually, I think because of far removed ideas of concepts (secularism and humanism aren't bad things by my estimation, the first gives the freedom of belief -including ours to be Christians- and the second helps those who utilise this freedom to reject Christ a rationale to improve the world) we'll agree to disagree. I do agree with the corporate statements and I hope that transnational economic terms of trade agreements and international regulations will keep up with them. And, while I'm sitting on a chair from Sweden on a carpet made in Turkey, eating chips from Indonesia, watching a British news channel on a TV from China and typing on a laptop from Japan: the avalanche has already started on this one. It might be too late for the pebbles to vote.

[TonkaTim]

Daemon, peaceful commerce between nations has always existed. Thus having products from various nations is not new or novel.  Your having these products is not truly because of 'globalization'.

Peaceful commerce between nations existed for millennia before 'globalization'.  Way back in the day a big part of it was called the Silk Road. In America the ancient trade route between the Indian nations was the Natchez Trace. Columbus sailed west not looking for new lands but looking for a new trade route to India.

What 'globalization' really is; the creation & implementation of World Government. It is how they created the European Union, through trade agreements. How they created the World Trade Organization, which is one of the aspects of World Government. The people & the sovereign nations of the world do not truly benefit from global central planning of world government.

You mentioned to me about socioeconomic problems, now imagine if all or even half of those items you listed were made in Australia & Australia had  vibrant & diverse manufacturing sector. How many economic problems could be erased with a strong local economy?


Here is an example I'd like to offer, Ford of Australia.


Henry Ford was an American Industrialist. Who also wanted to expand Ford's market share to multi-national markets. Did ole Henry lobby for government protections & exclusive monopolies to manufacture for the cheapest possible labor? Or did Ford invest in the local economies & manufacture in the market he desired?

The answer is obvious when we realise Henry manufactured American cars in America with American labor for Americans just as he did for Australia, England, Europe, southern Africa, & South America. Not only did Ford make a profit in those markets but also brought up the standard of living of those markets improving the local economies through free enterprise.


When Henry Ford was alive none of his manufacturing plants needed suicide nets installed to prevent his employees from killing themselves. Ford set industry stands for wages & working environments. Ford's 5-dollar day was revolutionary & is how it stabilised his workforce & even brought about the 8 hour work day. All those nations benefited from Ford's ideas of responsible industry, especially the working class. Henry Ford probably did more to bring about the rise of the middle-class in the world than anyone else in the 20th century.


Thus we have a almost 100 year old proven industrial free enterprise economic model that is mutually beneficial to all involved. Henry Ford's economic model is pretty much the exact opposite of modern the 'globalization' model. Even Ford Motor company no longer follows it. After NAFTA when FoMoCo started building plants in Mexico one did not see a rising middle-class like before but shanty towns being built up around the new factories. Instead of Mexico becoming a competing first world economy through free enterprise & responsible industry it remains just another third-world nation with the populous fleeing for opportunity.


My hope for NAFTA is that it would have actually helped build up the Mexican economy & industry, but it did not. It has actually created more socio-economic problems through government sanctioned exploitation by driving down & stagnating wages throughout North America. The Uruguay Round of the GATT deals which established the World Trade Organization has fostered the same stagnation through out the world. The socio-economic problems in Australia are a result of it as well. Ford of Australia manufacturing will be fully shut down in October of this year. Ninety-One years of economic partnership in Australia now gone along with thousands of well paying jobs that boosted Australia's economy for almost a century. And that is just one example. Thanks globalization.

[Daemon Blackfyre]

Commerce at this scale is new and is because of globalisation. Go down to the servo, buy a thing, 90% confident it wasn't made in Australia. I would have said this process really got going from the Indian Ocean Trade in the 15th Century and when the European Empires caught wind of it and expanded with it, the brakes on this process broke.

Secondly, don't know what sort of global government would work because one isn't outlined. A unitary plutocracy or a centralised imperium are going to be much less responsive than a united confederacy or a multi-tiered federation.

Thirdly, we can't have a diverse manufacturing sector like we have in the past, this is what I meant by the avelanche has already started. If it's here, it's with robots; it's it's with people, it's in China or India or somewhere that doesn't protect its workers which is much cheaper. If not, they would use more robots too. One of the things that is changing the job market is that there are less vocational positions and more people to fill them and that's only going to get worse.

The thing is, right, Ford was limited to America. Market players don't need to be restricted to boarders anymore, at least not as much as citizens within said boarders. There's your problem, which is why inter-state trade and regulatory  agreements and regulations are so important.

This is why I want to be an evolutionary biologist or an industrial chemist or engineering physicist. If I keep being a year ahead at school, I could get a job which addresses the future-eternal problem of microbial resistance or material manufacture, where I either have the know how to tell the robots what to do or to build the robots that will be told.

And Australia doesn't have that much of an economic problem, we didn't even have a recession when most of the developed world did. My area, on the other hand, had specific sociological determinents all at the right time like mining outstripping local manufacture or the introduction of IV drugs but were criminalised so outside of state regulation or the sudden and still-going decrease of availability for unskilled labour.

To be honest, Australia is better than you guys on an individual basis. We're second on the human development index. We live longer, have better education, readily access healthcare and have better distribution per capita of GDP. That being said, yes I'm poor. But poor has a context and, yes, it's a global one. A poorest 20% in Australia or Canada or the UK or Japan is still probably richer than 95% of the world.

These inter-state economic zones and agreements are only trying to catch up to solve the problem, and it's failing. The thing is that the old economic rules aren't applying. the 5 day week is on its death bed, as are penalty rates. Fewer jobs are contingent upon hours work and more on product made, clicks gained or advertisers acquired and we're slow to it.

This is what the blacksmiths felt on the eve of the Industrial Revolution.









Now we've propper hijacked this thread so I'll end with, there was a person who didn't stand to a song because black people and cops, tisk tisk football code.

[TonkaTim]

mining outstripping local manufacture

This is what I've been discussing.

Due to 'globalization' Australia has lost a significant portion of manufacture, over 30%.

Manufacture is the creation of value added wealth utilizing natural resources.

Which has made Australia an exporter of natural resources - see link
http://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore/tree_map/export/aus/all/show/2014/

And an importer of manufactured goods - see link
http://atlas.cid.harvard.edu/explore/tree_map/import/aus/all/show/2014/

You can thank 'globalization' for this since you stated it adds to your countries socioeconomic ills. It is due to it being a result of these managed trade agreements.

With Australia now being a primary natural resource exporter she is being deprived of the value added wealth related to manufacture along with the loss of the economic boon of those manufacture jobs plus the support jobs that go along with it.
Then charged for the value added when the resources are imported back as finished goods.
Thus creating a tri-fold loss;
1. Loss of value added manufacture wealth,
2. Loss of all related employment wages,
3. Charge back deficit exporting wealth to purchase added value in foreign manufacture.

These inter-state economic zones and agreements are only trying to catch up to solve the problem, and it's failing.

I couldn't agree more & they will continue to fail. Nations & peoples need free enterprise & free markets not managed trade & monopoly enterprise.

Without the all these foreign controls & limitations over Australia's economy Australia could be one of the worlds industrial powerhouses due to her economic potential just in her great wealth in natural resources. Thus creating a far more prosperous nation & people which would go a long way in eliminating the social ills you mention.





Which I can now pull full circle to my original post about traditional values & how Kaepernick is a symptom to far greater problems.

Kaepernick falsely believes as he does even though his own personal life evidence testifies against him, ... that some how people of color have it bad in America.
Kaepernick has become convinced of this because he bought the propaganda of the social engineers.
This propaganda is taught throughout our education system.  It is based on a Curriculums like Ethnic Studies  - http://ethnicstudies.berkeley.edu/
It basically teaches that all people of color are oppressed no matter what & all the ills of the world are caused by YT.
It is a very bigoted form of extremism designed to foster strife & division aiding in the destruction of Western Civilization aka Christendom sold to the youth via 'education'.
The 'theology' of the Social Justice Warrior.
The doctrines of the social engineers.


All civilizations have social engineers. I hate to diminish the Gospel of Jesus Christ down to social engineering but Jesus Christ, His Apostles & followers were the greatest social engineers ever seen or ever will be seen in the totality of human history. They completely transformed the world for the better. Not only does the Gospel of Jesus Christ provide hope & salvation for mankind it also made the world a far more prosperous & just place to live.

Now that the prominent social engineers are no longer Christian but secular we are now witnessing a new dark age. It may be an age of rapid technological change but also an age of rapid change bringing about moral bankruptcy & great human misery. In the 20th century secular social engineers have used, abortion, euthanasia, war, disease, starvation, etc. to bring about population reduction to the tune of well over 100 million. All while making a profit.

So far in the 21st century the death toll by these things has not stopped.

As the populations continue to rise & technology makes a huge percent of human life & labor obsolete, what do you think will happen?
Especially considering the majority of the current secular world leaders are already advocates of abortion, euthanasia, war & social & economic planning?

The human death toll will have to be enormous if humanity continues down its current path. Devoid of love it is the only logical choice. They will sell it as compassion the same way they sell euthanizing & sterilizing our pets. And why not? The secularist believe humanity is just a slightly more evolved animal thus the value of human life isn't worth much more. Thus the logical extrapolation of the bigger problem all because people prefer to believe a lie.

[RB]

But, I can tell by your literacy & comprehension at such a young age your are intelligent.

Brother, He's much older than fifteen, do not be deceived!

[Daemon Blackfyre]

I think you kinda missed the point, this was going to happen anyways. It is happening anyways. It is easy to get stuff from China to Europe. It is cheaper to make things in China and move it than it is make it in Europe. Are things made in Europe? Yes. Are they lots of cheap thing? Nah. There's no humanist social engineering experiment, no conspired ideas involved. You say that markets are the solution? Markets drive this process. This idea of globalisation was coined after the collapse of the USSR and the end of the Cold War. Neo-Liberal capitalism won that. We are in the result. Capitalism is a creature that feeds upon numbers, economic growth now is the sand at the bottom of the hour glass, that's why we tend to go through boom-bust cycles.

The only way to stop this is to wind back technological processes which made this possible. We are talking despite the distances and boarders between us due to progress and technology, trade is the same.

And yeah, we genuinely have a population problem on a global scale but I think you might find that not everyone things we actively have to do anything about it anymore. With economic growth comes civil development comes increased education comes decreased fertility rates. That's why Norway and New Zealand and Japan have a fertility rate > 2 per female while Romania, Sudan and Pakistan have a fertility rate <2 per female.

We live in a world driven devoid of love but that's because we live in a world contingent upon ever developing and growing markets, markets to big for the nationstate model to contain. Why is capitalism so successful and reliable even though it's rutherless? Because human love is not a guarantee, human green certainly is. We need this beast, it pulls our cart along and is the engine to our machines. Alas, the beast has grown too big to fear our whips and the engine too powerful for our brakes.

We cannot rely on the past, we need a different method. The global agricultural industry makes a sum total enough to feed everyone on the planet 17 times over, yet there's still starvation. Economics is a matter of resource distribution and the old ways of counter-distributing meritocratically with egalitarian distribution is at the point of unrealistic. I don't pretend to know what new method would help, if any and perhaps the way to progress with reduced harm is a matter of adaptation, smarter people than some westy bogan kid.

The point is that it's not simple. Markets of greedy, shortsighted apes are harder to herd than cats.

[Daemon Blackfyre]

But, I can tell by your literacy & comprehension at such a young age your are intelligent.

Brother, He's much older than fifteen, do not be deceived!

Or, you know, generation with access to the internet. But nah, I'm just pretending for some reason???

[TonkaTim]

There's no humanist social engineering 

Then you deny the reality of human history
and
the reality of the current education system.

All societal structures including the foundation, the family, are a form of social engineering to achieve a desired outcome. This process is as old as humanity. Assimilation into a culture is acceptance of that cultures social engineering. An ancient example is in the Bible in the Books of Moses. It was done to the ancient Israelites through Moses during the forty years in the wilderness. Which illustrates how it is done generationally. We've already mentioned the positives of Christian social engineering. More recent secular social engineering is the Third Reich followed by the social engineering of De-Nazification. Mao's social engineering of China. The Social engineering the USSR & Russia beginning with the Bolsheviks, then Stalinization, followed by De-Stalinization, Glasnost, & now Putin's admitted social engineering to bring about a Orthodox Christianized Russia.

We can also blatantly see the same social engineering in Western countries when we look at the programs taught in state accredited  education system, championed & promoted by state legislation. Also promoted all around the world through the embassy system, diplomacy & NGO's through the U.N. and NGO's such as Soros' Open Society programs among many others.

You say that markets are the solution? Markets drive this process.

No, managed monopoly markets created through international legislation & world government controls drive this process.

Again you deny the reality of the evidence such as the managed economic legislation like GATT, NAFTA, CAFTA, TTP, etc. all under the authority of the supra-national the World Trade Organization.

Nothing Free Market or Free Enterprise about these government mandated programs.

... shortsighted apes...

More secular nonsense denying reality & evidence.

[TonkaTim]

But, I can tell by your literacy & comprehension at such a young age your are intelligent.

Brother, He's much older than fifteen, do not be deceived!

Thank you very much RB.
I'm quickly coming to that conclusion.

[Daemon Blackfyre]

LIke I said, if you have skype or something like that, send the name to me in a message if you wish to talk less clunkily as a couple others have

[Enoch]

But, I can tell by your literacy & comprehension at such a young age your are intelligent.

Brother, He's much older than fifteen, do not be deceived!

Well, after talking to him on Skype, he's much younger than 18.

[RB]

Well, after talking to him on Skype, he's much younger than 18.

How do you know for sure that they are one and the same person? Side note~Someone has deleted some post and not allow others to be posted....why? 

[Enoch]

Well, after talking to him on Skype, he's much younger than 18.

How do you know for sure that they are one and the same person?

Absolutely? No. Did I see a teenage boy speaking is a heavy Australian accent with similar verbosity and views  - after admitting to reading Das Kapital and Atlas Shrugged - and ques in the background which aligned with what I knew of him over several calls? Ockham's razor compels me to think he is what he is.

[Tertullian]

NFL viewership has declined 11% http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/10/09/nfl-tries-to-reassure-teams-as-tv-ratings-drop.html

This is practically unprecedented, but the NFL denies it has anything to do with Kaepernick and some other players being jerks at work to NFL's customers.  "The NFL said it sees no evidence to that being a factor in declining ratings: 'In fact, our own data shows that the perception of the NFL and its players is actually up in 2016.'"

[stl5]

That guy is the perfect fit for the California types(sorry to all the Cal bro's and sis' on here)

[RB]

NFL viewership has declined 11% http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2016/10/09/nfl-tries-to-reassure-teams-as-tv-ratings-drop.html

This is practically unprecedented, but the NFL denies it has anything to do with Kaepernick and some other players being jerks at work to NFL's customers.  "The NFL said it sees no evidence to that being a factor in declining ratings: 'In fact, our own data shows that the perception of the NFL and its players is actually up in 2016.'"

If Kaepernick was white (100%) then the NFL would take action against him, but because he's black and "most" superstars in football and basketball are black they do not what the "repercussions" that would come with dealing with a black anti-American rebel.... especially since the black lives matter movement in full rage and having a black President that uses his office to promote black lives matter~certainly its all about $$$$$$$$$$$$ bottom line~it's shame and disgrace that we allow men who can barely add two plus two and cannot put together a nice flow words that we call a sentence~yet who makes millions off of his throwing and running, show our nation's its hatred toward us and despises men and women who have fought to keep such men's liberty so they can have free speech. But this is what our world has DEGENERATED into, and it is only going to get worst, not better.