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Parental titles

Started by Daemon Blackfyre, Sat Oct 15, 2016 - 20:38:15

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Daemon Blackfyre

G'day

Just wondering, what's the consensus of parental titles and their necessity?

Just to get a gist of where I'm coming from, I never called my father dad nor my mother mum. I referred and still refer to my parents by their first names. Like wise, I don't call their siblings aunt or uncle and the only exception is where I call my grandfather opa.

This kinda just came up recently because people were surprised that I refer to myself to my bub as Jasper (my name) instead of dad because my mother did the same instead of referring to herself as nan or the like.

Are the titles that important?

Alan

Yeah they are, I'd be heartbroken if my kids called me Al, I'm Dad to them and it reminds me when I hear it the role I have played in their lives.

chosenone

My kids always called me mummy and now mum. I think its important for a child to have a parent that is called dad or mum(daddy or mummy) because you are not just another person to them but their parent.Its a very special relationship. Feel a bit sad that you mum doesnt want to be your sons nan or grandma.
Break the cycle in your family and be your child's daddy.

Carey

Yup have to agree with the folks here.

Be your child's daddy.  It is indicative of the special relationship you share, and I think it important for his sake and yours.

Leanne

Hi again, young man.

I want to talk to you about a related but similar issue. I'm sure you know that today there is a lot of infidelity, unmarried families, open relationships, same-sex couples, multi-parented families and, yes, teen pregnancy. This has resulted in a change in the idea of the family unit, some would say evolution but I would say degradation. In most societies in most of history, a house hold was a father, a mother and their children. This ideal of the family is not so granted anymore.

Now I know some people who have children who call them by their first name instead of mom or dad or whatever. I'm sure many believe it to be an enlightened, liberal or progressive thing. The truth is that degradation of the family unit I was talking about? Children not identifying their parents as mother or father only furthers that.

I'm actually sorry that your family didn't encourage you to say words like Mom, Dad, Aunt, Uncle - they may seem like superficial things but they're very important in an accumulative and social way. You constantly say you want to set up the best for your son, Aegon. Aegon wants and needs a family, the type of family that we were designed for and that God himself ordained. One way of winning back that ideal for him is to encourage him to think of you as sons were designed and ordained to think of their fathers.

To him, you're not Jasper. To him, you're dada.

::smile::

Enoch

 If you want your boy to understand the respect of the family, have him call you dad. Have him the dignity of honouring his father.

I second Leanne's point, I see this worrying trend of children referring to their parents by their names and am so sorry that you only got that opportunity reinforced by your grandfather.

Daemon Blackfyre

I guess I'm asking more what's the rationale between the parental titles and the connotations between a kid and their parents.

Again, I think of my mother and father as my mother and father and love them as such, even if I call them Sherill and Dick. Why is it necessary thst he call me dad instead of Jasper, especially since he;ll be the only one in his family to do so?

Alan

Quote from: Daemon Blackfyre on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 08:05:46
I guess I'm asking more what's the rationale between the parental titles and the connotations between a kid and their parents.

Again, I think of my mother and father as my mother and father and love them as such, even if I call them Sherill and Dick. Why is it necessary thst he call me dad instead of Jasper, especially since he;ll be the only one in his family to do so?


Ask yourself this; are you dad or Jasper to your son? Friends and acquaintances can call you Jasper but Dad is reserved for your children, as I stated above, it's a special title reserved for your children. I couldn't imagine calling my parents by their given names, they just were not those people to me as a child, they were mom and dad. 

MeMyself

The show Duck Dynasty calls their parents by "Phil" and "Kay".  I don't know why...when they speak of them to others, they will also refer to them as "mom" and "dad".  They seem like a very well adjusted, fun loving, supportive family, who love one another, others in their community and the Lord as well.

I know that I could not wait to be called Mom in all its various forms!  What an absolute privileged to have a name reserved only for my babies to call me.  My heart swells and I get such a feeling of joy to hear them call out my name; a name reserved only for them.


chosenone

Quote from: Daemon Blackfyre on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 08:05:46
I guess I'm asking more what's the rationale between the parental titles and the connotations between a kid and their parents.

Again, I think of my mother and father as my mother and father and love them as such, even if I call them Sherill and Dick. Why is it necessary thst he call me dad instead of Jasper, especially since he;ll be the only one in his family to do so?


Because you are his daddy.

Leanne

Quote from: Daemon Blackfyre on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 08:05:46
I guess I'm asking more what's the rationale between the parental titles and the connotations between a kid and their parents.

Again, I think of my mother and father as my mother and father and love them as such, even if I call them Sherill and Dick. Why is it necessary thst he call me dad instead of Jasper, especially since he;ll be the only one in his family to do so?
I guess it doesn't really stick yet because you've never called your parents mom and dad.

I guess the respect with titles and names is kinda like that with God and his people. In the Old Testement it was very disrespectful to call God by his name. More than that, in the Canaanite culture, any gods of any people or region were called by a title instead of their name. Adonai, as the Hebrews used, means God; Jezebel used Ba'al which means 'Lord' instead of the name, Melqart; Beelzabub's name wasn't used, that terms means "Lord of Flies". etc. To use the title instead of the name was something of a privilage and a sign of respect, exactly as the true God is. You know that Muslims who are mistaken gravely about the nature of God too don't use his name but call him the Arabic word for god, Allah, or other titles (Ar-Rahman means "Exceedingly Merciful").

So what does this have to do with you, I'm sure you're wondering, you're not a god and you want a relationship with your son, not to Lord over him, right? Well you've caught on by now that our relationship to God is a parental one. We call him 'Our Father' or, in the house hold you live in your Muslim foster family might say "Abi" which also means father. Like the laws of old, it is a sign of privilage and respect not to say God's name but to call him by a title.

Aegon is in a position of privilege and owing respect and the first way he's going to learn about God is by your love, your unconditional devotion to your son is like a tiny analogue to God's total devotion to his creation. By Aegon learning who you are to him you are instilling him a set up to know who God is through you. He will first learn a parents love and through that he will learn his Lord's love, like a stepping stone.

That's how that 'parental title' shows love and respect, between both of you; just as they did between us and God in the old law.

mommydi

I call my parents "momma" and "daddy." My kids all call me "mom." Well...except for my youngest, who is a little spit fire. When she was young, if we were in a store, and I told her not to touch something, if another shopper was in earshot, she'd say, "OK, but please don't hit me step mother."  rofl  Most of the time, the other shoppers would laugh, but a few times, they thought she was serious, which was awkward.
This year, on my birthday, on my Facebook wall, she posted, "Happy Birthday, step mother!" with a little wink.  ::giggle::  I love that girl of mine.

Enoch

Quote from: Leanne on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 14:22:47I guess it doesn't really stick yet because you've never called your parents mom and dad.
Actually, I think this is a really good point, those of us who have seen it at all have seen it from afar.

I just see it as so intrinsic to the relationship of child and their parent(s). I never thought of rationalising it past, "well you're his dad so he'll call you dad" since this point. Then again, I grew up calling adults ma'am and sir; Mr or Ms/Miss/Mrs if I knew them better.

Daemon Blackfyre

Quote from: Leanne on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 14:22:47
Quote from: Daemon Blackfyre on Sun Oct 16, 2016 - 08:05:46
I guess I'm asking more what's the rationale between the parental titles and the connotations between a kid and their parents.

Again, I think of my mother and father as my mother and father and love them as such, even if I call them Sherill and Dick. Why is it necessary thst he call me dad instead of Jasper, especially since he;ll be the only one in his family to do so?
I guess it doesn't really stick yet because you've never called your parents mom and dad.

I guess the respect with titles and names is kinda like that with God and his people. In the Old Testement it was very disrespectful to call God by his name. More than that, in the Canaanite culture, any gods of any people or region were called by a title instead of their name. Adonai, as the Hebrews used, means God; Jezebel used Ba'al which means 'Lord' instead of the name, Melqart; Beelzabub's name wasn't used, that terms means "Lord of Flies". etc. To use the title instead of the name was something of a privilage and a sign of respect, exactly as the true God is. You know that Muslims who are mistaken gravely about the nature of God too don't use his name but call him the Arabic word for god, Allah, or other titles (Ar-Rahman means "Exceedingly Merciful").

So what does this have to do with you, I'm sure you're wondering, you're not a god and you want a relationship with your son, not to Lord over him, right? Well you've caught on by now that our relationship to God is a parental one. We call him 'Our Father' or, in the house hold you live in your Muslim foster family might say "Abi" which also means father. Like the laws of old, it is a sign of privilage and respect not to say God's name but to call him by a title.

Aegon is in a position of privilege and owing respect and the first way he's going to learn about God is by your love, your unconditional devotion to your son is like a tiny analogue to God's total devotion to his creation. By Aegon learning who you are to him you are instilling him a set up to know who God is through you. He will first learn a parents love and through that he will learn his Lord's love, like a stepping stone.

That's how that 'parental title' shows love and respect, between both of you; just as they did between us and God in the old law.
Being a proxy deity is a bigger responsibility than most would attribute to parenthood, just saying.

Brisingr

I think it depends -- I was never required to call my uncles 'Uncle'; it was fine to use their first names alone. It didn't matter one whit as far as respect went, nor did I have to call my great aunt Aunt. To this day, if one of them went to discipline me for something, I'd take it, and I'm forty years old. In fact, if my great aunt so much as frowned in my direction, I'd wince, wondering what I did wrong, because she's highly respected by me, and the relationship has always been there. I DO call my mother mom, just because that's always how it's been, but it wouldn't matter if I called her by her first name. The respect doesn't come from the title, it comes from the relationship. If Mr. Jasper is doing his duty as a father, the child will know it -- I can tell you from experience that I was required to call my father dad, but I did not like the man, and would outright disrespect him because he was a sorry excuse for a man, let alone a parent.

Don't get hung up on titles. Jasper, if you are comfortable with continuing the traditions of your family, then continue them. Your kid knows who his dad is, and that's what matters, not what other people THINK your traditions should be.

meyerjd77

My 12 year old son calls me either Dad or by my first name depending on the situation.  My 10 year old daughter only calls me Dad.  My wife only wants to be called Mom by both kids.  In public/church, I prefer to not be addressed as Mr. under any circumstances and always tell people to please use my first name.  I teach religious education at our church to 5th & 6th graders.  I am the only instructor that the kids do not have to address as at Mr./Mrs.

RB

Quote from: meyerjd77 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 13:52:31My 12 year old son calls me either Dad or by my first name depending on the situation.  My 10 year old daughter only calls me Dad.  My wife only wants to be called Mom by both kids.  In public/church, I prefer to not be addressed as Mr. under any circumstances and always tell people to please use my first name.  I teach religious education at our church to 5th & 6th graders.  I am the only instructor that the kids do not have to address as at Mr./Mrs.
Children should call their parent mom or dad, or mother, father, never by their names. Children should be taught to address adults as Mr. or Mrs, etc. Never by their first names. Children should be taught to respect and honour their elders. God demands more......
QuoteLeviticus 19:32~"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."
There much more proof if you need more.

MeMyself

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Quote
Children should call their parent mom or dad, or mother, father, never by their names. Children should be taught to address adults as Mr. or Mrs, etc. Never by their first names. Children should be taught to respect and honour their elders. God demands more......
Quote
Leviticus 19:32~"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."
There much more proof if you need more.

This is a Romans 14 issue if there ever was one.

What one family decides how learning to and applying respect plays out, is for that family alone.

I, personally, hate being called Mrs., but I have a friend who insists that her kids call me that (even though they are now adults), so I put up with it and ask my kids to return the favor for them.
The families we are truly, deeply family friends with are like family and they call the adults by their name and my dh and I are called by our first names as well. It's much more authentic and comfortable for all.

We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.

Respect and it's "musts" are largely cultural and not absolutes.


RB

#18
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 15:54:57We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.
I thank God I was raised in the south! I hear people coming from the north and listen to them talk.....they so disrespectful to each other, much more to others! They swear by Jesus' name constantly and think nothing about. It like drinking water to them. We teach our little ones that slang words are cuss words, and they soon learn to avoid such language and the people that use such. Leave children to themselves and they would NEVER learn to be respectful to anyone, much less to older people. Too many are following what you believe, and it's sad to see and hear, a bunch of unholy and unthankful children flooding our world with a sense of entitlement and wanting respect from the older, rather than giving respect to them!   Maybe you think that youth should not stand up when older men and ladies walk into a room and sit only after they sit? If not, then you need to tell God that you have a better way of training children than he does. Rather you tell him or not, your words speak for themselves. 

MeMyself

Wow.

Well, you sure put me in my place, didn't ya?

Blessings to you, Red.

chosenone

We are not formal in the way we address people or the way people address us. My neices and nephews dont call us aunty or uncle, just by our names, and they are lovely respectful young adults. My childrens friends always called me by my name, not Mrs -------, and ! much prefered that. They were always respectful. As a rule I don't like being called Mrs---- unless its by an adult who doesn't know me such as a doctor, or some other professional.

chosenone

Quote from: RB on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 03:59:12
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 15:54:57We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.
I thank God I was raised in the south! I hear people coming from the north and listen to them talk.....they so disrespectful to each other, much more to others! They swear by Jesus' name constantly and think nothing about. It like drinking water to them. We teach our little ones that slang words are cuss words, and they soon learn to avoid such language and the people that use such. Leave children to themselves and they would NEVER learn to be respectful to anyone, much less to older people. Too many are following what you believe, and it's sad to see and hear, a bunch of unholy and unthankful children flooding our world with a sense of entitlement and wanting respect from the older, rather than giving respect to them!   Maybe you think that youth should not stand up when older men and ladies walk into a room and sit only after they sit? If not, then you need to tell God that you have a better way of training children than he does. Rather you tell him or not, your words speak for themselves.
Wow ::eek:: I think you are rather prejudiced.  ::eek::
Where in the Bible does it say how we must address people or that we must stand up when someone older than us comes into the room? The 10 adult children (neices, nephews, sons and daughters,)in my family are lovely young people who treat others with respect and politeness, they don't need to use formal titles to do that. You cant make people respect anyone by forcing rules onto them, you can only do it by example of the way you treat others.

MeMyself

Quote from: RB on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 03:59:12
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 15:54:57We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.
I thank God I was raised in the south! I hear people coming from the north and listen to them talk.....they so disrespectful to each other, much more to others! They swear by Jesus' name constantly and think nothing about. It like drinking water to them. We teach our little ones that slang words are cuss words, and they soon learn to avoid such language and the people that use such. Leave children to themselves and they would NEVER learn to be respectful to anyone, much less to older people. Too many are following what you believe, and it's sad to see and hear, a bunch of unholy and unthankful children flooding our world with a sense of entitlement and wanting respect from the older, rather than giving respect to them!   Maybe you think that youth should not stand up when older men and ladies walk into a room and sit only after they sit? If not, then you need to tell God that you have a better way of training children than he does. Rather you tell him or not, your words speak for themselves.

Ive been thinking about your response, Red.  How the "northerners" are so disrespectful compared to those from the south.

It is interesting to me how easily you pick up on disrespect from others, so much so that it seems you are sensitive to it...but you don't season your speech with grace at all.

Its as if their convictions differ from yours, so you are entitled to unleash.  My convictions on this differ from yours, so you unleashed and attacked, accused and even tried to make this a sink or swim sin issue; and its just not.

How *you* choose to do it, is great, but it is *not* a biblically mandated absolute.  There is room, surely, for grace...due to people not being you, people not living in your same geographical location, people having a different culture than the one you live in, etc.

Children must be taught to be respectful, I agree.  How that is accomplished is up to each parent, and their understanding of scripture; of which, there is not one verse that covers children standing when an adult walks into the room and not being seated until the adults have all sat. (Just to put your mind at ease, though, Red, we do ask our kids politely and quietly to give up their chair when one is in need...but not before we give ours up first. That is what Jesus would have done, I believe...he washed the feet of the disciples after all)

RB

#23
Quote from: chosenone on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 05:27:03Wow ::eek:: I think you are rather prejudiced.  ::eek::
Personally, I truly do not care what you think of me based upon my religious convictions. I'm not out to gain friends by saying what they want me to say. My convictions are based upon God's word, not what the world or religious people think I should say, or not say. I do not try to be different just to be different~and I certainly do not mold my thinking or way of living to please the youth, for that's impossible. Foolishness is bound in their hearts and they know nothing about righteousness, but must be taught, for every one of us were born like a wild ass's colt. Our youth are out of control, even to a point that there are almost no return and whose the blame? Well, I will let you and others answer that. If our forefathers were here today, they would point their fingers at the parents of the twenty-first century who operate under an "buddy relationship" with their children and grandchildren. I refuse to do so.
QuoteWhere in the Bible does it say how we must address people or that we must stand up when someone older than us comes into the room?
Well, if you would read my post, then you would not have asked that question:
QuoteLeviticus 19:32~"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."
I have more  if you care to know what God said, instead of leaning unto your own understanding, and the world's view of honouring children above parents and the hoary head. Is sir used in the scriptures toward parents? You answer that question and if you cannot, then I will.

RB

Quote from: MeMyself on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 09:27:13Ive been thinking about your response, Red.  How the "northerners" are so disrespectful compared to those from the south.
I said what I said based upon what you said here:
QuoteWe also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.
I am not going to enter into a cat fight with you, and your emotional feelings. If you care to discuss what the scriptures said, then fine, if not....good-bye.

MeMyself

Quote from: RB on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:03:46
Quote from: MeMyself on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 09:27:13Ive been thinking about your response, Red.  How the "northerners" are so disrespectful compared to those from the south.
I said what I said based upon what you said here:
QuoteWe also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.
I am not going to enter into a cat fight with you, and your emotional feelings. If you care to discuss what the scriptures said, then fine, if not....good-bye.

Red, please do try and not let your emotions run away with you.  I was only sharing the differences between how the title "sir and ma'am" are viewed between our families. It was not an indictment against them and how they do things, due to the region they come from. To pretend that one is  more righteous than the other is simply refusing to allow the grace for which Romans 14 calls.

Carey

Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 15:54:57

We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.


There is a similiar connotation of disrespect here in regards to ma'am, if I were to call my mom ma'am, I would be careful not to say so while mom had her wooden spoon in hand.  ::lookaround::

MeMyself

Quote from: Carey on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:09:32
Quote from: MeMyself on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 15:54:57

We also have family from the south and their kids must say "yes, sir" and "ma'am". My kids get in trouble for saying that to us, because it sounds insincere and mouthy in the state we are in.


There is a similiar connotation of disrespect here in regards to ma'am, if I were to call my mom ma'am, I would be careful not to say so while mom had her wooden spoon in hand.  ::lookaround::
Haha! Exactly!  rofl

Alan

Don't worry about Red, he doesn't accept cultural differences, even in his own country  ::giggle::


I suppose then the Japanese, whom are considered the most polite peoples on earth would be offensive in their disregard for Southern US formalities  rofl

mommydi

Quote from: chosenone on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 05:19:17
We are not formal in the way we address people or the way people address us. My neices and nephews dont call us aunty or uncle, just by our names, and they are lovely respectful young adults. My childrens friends always called me by my name, not Mrs -------, and ! much prefered that. They were always respectful. As a rule I don't like being called Mrs---- unless its by an adult who doesn't know me such as a doctor, or some other professional.

Here in the southern states, there's still quite a bit of formality. My nieces and nephews all refer to me as "Aunt Dee" or "Auntie Dee." I happen to like that. My teenage grandson's closest friends, who have practically grown up at my house, refer to me as "grandma" and I'm fine with that. His other friends, who are not as familiar with me use a formal title. My youngest daughter's friends who are close to me refer to me as Lady Di.  ::giggle:: 
For the most part, we use titles of some kind or another.




MeMyself

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:23:27
Quote from: chosenone on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 05:19:17
We are not formal in the way we address people or the way people address us. My neices and nephews dont call us aunty or uncle, just by our names, and they are lovely respectful young adults. My childrens friends always called me by my name, not Mrs -------, and ! much prefered that. They were always respectful. As a rule I don't like being called Mrs---- unless its by an adult who doesn't know me such as a doctor, or some other professional.

Here in the southern states, there's still quite a bit of formality. My nieces and nephews all refer to me as "Aunt Dee" or "Auntie Dee." I happen to like that. My teenage grandson's closest friends, who have practically grown up at my house, refer to me as "grandma" and I'm fine with that. His other friends, who are not as familiar with me use a formal title. My youngest daughter's friends who are close to me refer to me as Lady Di.  ::giggle:: 
For the most part, we use titles of some kind or another.

We do that too!  "Aunt so in so" or "Uncle whats his name", and I never thought anything of it.  My in-laws find this practice to be *highly* and I mean *highly* offensive. Its first name only with them, no negotiations! ::shrug::   ::giggle:: No idea why, but I abide by it when we are swimming with the dh's family.  Its interesting to me how differently we all do things.  ::smile::

Jaime

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Quote from: meyerjd77 on Thu Mar 23, 2017 - 13:52:31
My 12 year old son calls me either Dad or by my first name depending on the situation.  My 10 year old daughter only calls me Dad.  My wife only wants to be called Mom by both kids.  In public/church, I prefer to not be addressed as Mr. under any circumstances and always tell people to please use my first name.  I teach religious education at our church to 5th & 6th graders.  I am the only instructor that the kids do not have to address as at Mr./Mrs.

I respect that you are willing to teach at the 5th and 6th grade level at church. I tried that once and vowed never again. I would rather teach in a room full of pious elders and deacons and their wives than try to convey anything to 5th and 6th graders. My teaching methods involve spurring discussion, but with that age group, they seem to be so self conscious that they clam up pretty soon. Me lecturing is a pretty sad sight. But I love to banter back and forth as most here know!.  ::smile::

I'm pretty much like Red. My grandkids call me Papa, but they do say yes sir and no sir. Which makes me proud of them. I wasn't hard on them about it, but their parents drilled that into them and I think that is good. I'm not only old, but old school as well.

mommydi

Quote from: MeMyself on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:25:44


We do that too!  "Aunt so in so" or "Uncle whats his name", and I never thought anything of it.  My in-laws find this practice to be *highly* and I mean *highly* offensive. Its first name only with them, no negotiations! ::shrug::   ::giggle:: No idea why, but I abide by it when we are swimming with the dh's family.  Its interesting to me how differently we all do things::smile::

That's so true. I was raised in a family of huggers. We hug hello and good-bye. Sometimes a light peck on the cheek, but most of the time, just a little hug. When I got married, all my in-laws kissed on the mouth for their hello and good-bye greetings. No hugs. No touching whatsoever except for lips. Didn't matter if the person was my teenage brother-in-law, the 80 year old grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins...big wet kiss on the mouth when saying hello and good-bye. I thought that was weird, and I didn't like it at all. (I also wondered if it was a Texas thing)


MeMyself

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:43:38
Quote from: MeMyself on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 11:25:44


We do that too!  "Aunt so in so" or "Uncle whats his name", and I never thought anything of it.  My in-laws find this practice to be *highly* and I mean *highly* offensive. Its first name only with them, no negotiations! ::shrug::   ::giggle:: No idea why, but I abide by it when we are swimming with the dh's family.  Its interesting to me how differently we all do things::smile::

That's so true. I was raised in a family of huggers. We hug hello and good-bye. Sometimes a light peck on the cheek, but most of the time, just a little hug. When I got married, all my in-laws kissed on the mouth for their hello and good-bye greetings. No hugs. No touching whatsoever except for lips. Didn't matter if the person was my teenage brother-in-law, the 80 year old grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins...big wet kiss on the mouth when saying hello and good-bye. I thought that was weird, and I didn't like it at all. (I also wondered if it was a Texas thing)

OOOkay...this one would be harder for me to abide by, as I have personal space issues and on the lips crosses WAY over that, dh being discluded of course. haha.

chosenone

Quote from: RB on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 10:55:32
Quote from: chosenone on Fri Mar 24, 2017 - 05:27:03Wow ::eek:: I think you are rather prejudiced.  ::eek::
Personally, I truly do not care what you think of me based upon my religious convictions. I'm not out to gain friends by saying what they want me to say. My convictions are based upon God's word, not what the world or religious people think I should say, or not say. I do not try to be different just to be different~and I certainly do not mold my thinking or way of living to please the youth, for that's impossible. Foolishness is bound in their hearts and they know nothing about righteousness, but must be taught, for every one of us were born like a wild ass's colt. Our youth are out of control, even to a point that there are almost no return and whose the blame? Well, I will let you and others answer that. If our forefathers were here today, they would point their fingers at the parents of the twenty-first century who operate under an "buddy relationship" with their children and grandchildren. I refuse to do so.
QuoteWhere in the Bible does it say how we must address people or that we must stand up when someone older than us comes into the room?
Well, if you would read my post, then you would not have asked that question:
QuoteLeviticus 19:32~"Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I am the LORD."
I have more  if you care to know what God said, instead of leaning unto your own understanding, and the world's view of honouring children above parents and the hoary head. Is sir used in the scriptures toward parents? You answer that question and if you cannot, then I will.

No one has said that we should honour children above old people. However the way you responded to memyself was uncalled for, just because we all have different ways of addressing each other, it doesn't make one wrong or one right.
God doesn't specifically tell Christians how we should address aunts, uncles, friends of our parents or even our parents.   
Its not about names or titles, its about our behaviour towards others, and children learn that from seeing how we behave.

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