End Times Question

[val5662]

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

[bbyrd009]

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

give no thought for the morrow; today has enough evil in it

[n2thelight]

One world government

[larry2]

Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
It's the seven year peace plan.

Your question asks for the next event to occur to our planet, and I suggest the following. Your video deals with the second half of the week of tribulation; I didn't listen to it all, but skimmed through its scriptures presented.

When does this following scripture occur? the middle of the week, and what week is this? Is there anything happening in the first half of the week, or prior to it? 

What do you think of Dan 12:11  And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. (This will happen 30 days prior to the covenant with many being signed by the man of sin.)

Dan 9:27a  And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week (This is the abomination of desolation, or the man of sin) and by all I read of that time, it will be no time of peace. Rev 7:14-15 describes the saints not ready for pre-trib as having been caught up out of great tribulation. That first three and one-half years of the week is also the temptation to come upon all the world. Rev 3:10 certain ones of the church are promised to be kept from.

After the first saints are present with our Lord after He receives His own throne in Rev 4:2 on the Lord's Day, John is shown two companies of believers: the Twenty-four elders of Rev 4:4 & the Four Living ones of Rev 4:6.

Then we read of the second half of the week in 2Th 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.  (Just when is the antichrist revealed?) Dan 9:27b.
Thanks Val.

[the_sign]

Hi All....

Your link is a piece of garbage when it comes to Daniel 9:27 and the usual error of trying to substitute Christ's work with that of the work of the prince foretold in Daniel 9:26.

The best video for the Book of Daniel (end times) is :

Paul Godfrey's "Daniel Unsealed - World History's Response to Biblical Prophecy" :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CtdGm556gM

[thedrumchannell]

I would say that the next big event, prophetically speaking, is the rise of a one world government. This system will be used by the Antichrist to rule and deceive the whole world.

[lea]

I would say that the next big event, prophetically speaking, is the rise of a one world government. This system will be used by the Antichrist to rule and deceive the whole world.

I'll be enjoying my life as Jesus gave "me" His peace.

Y'all can worry and talk about bad news if you like.

There's no stupid antichrist coming. What a boring story!!

I'm a lot happier than any Futurist!

Get with the Good news!

[LaSpino3]

When Israel completes its 70th year as a nation on May 13th 2019. This is the generation of Jews that Matthew 24 speaks of that will have seen all these things come to pass.

Laspino3

[thedrumchannell]

I am pretty sure most Christian believers are not worried about the Antichrist or the tribulation. Our King is in control and will take care of our souls. I am happy, and although you might not be an end time believer, Bible prophecy will be fulfilled, as it is written in the Bible.

[lea]

When Israel completes its 70th year as a nation on May 13th 2019. This is the generation of Jews that Matthew 24 speaks of that will have seen all these things come to pass.

Laspino3

Sorry, this generation is not from the same generation Jesus spoke of.  Stop playing on words- Jesus did not say "that" generation. Whew, so00000 in the past!  Let's get on with good news for believers!

[lea]

I am pretty sure most Christian believers are not worried about the Antichrist or the tribulation. Our King is in control and will take care of our souls. I am happy, and although you might not be an end time believer, Bible prophecy will be fulfilled, as it is written in the Bible.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ over the skies of Jerusalem showed the tribes of the land proof that Jesus returned and the power of the holy people was shattered.

[thedrumchannell]

The Revelation of Jesus Christ over the skies of Jerusalem showed the tribes of the land proof that Jesus returned and the power of the holy people was shattered.

Hi lea,

I'm not sure what your message means in response to my post. Could you please elaborate further if you were trying to address a point?
Also, are you claiming that Jesus Christ has already returned?

[Grace-aholic]

But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
[/size] Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
[/size]Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober[/b].

[lea]

Hi lea,

I'm not sure what your message means in response to my post. Could you please elaborate further if you were trying to address a point?
Also, are you claiming that Jesus Christ has already returned?

Jesus returned over the skies of Jerusalem during the Roman/Jewish war. Look in the Preterist sub forum for some answers.
God Bless!

[Choir Loft]

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

In case anyone really cares......

On Friday July 27th another blood moon will be observed in certain areas of the world.   Accompanying the display this time will be the planet Mars, which can be seen approximately 2 degrees from the moon at the five o'clock position.

Every self-proclaimed expert seems to have an opinion as to what comes next - prophetically - rather than being concerned about what is upon us already.

At the present time the United States of America is under judgment of God for its wickedness, its unjust murder of millions, its criminal government and its wanton reckless disregard of God.   

I am writing this in the last week of July 2018.  As of this writing, the USA has suffered over 1 billion dollars worth of destruction and loss of life per month.   Actually its a bit more than 7 billion, but I'm floating the number out just as a point of argument.   Gullible godless Americans like to say, 'God Bless America', but in point of fact God is NOT blessing America.  He is delivering curses upon us.

The evidence of one's own eyes ought to be sufficient to convince even the most die hard skeptic.   God is judging America NOW.   The current level of constant destruction has never been recorded in history before, with but one exception.   The death of 640,000 Americans and the destruction of the entire Southern Civilization fell upon us during the Civil War, which is now recognized as a judgment of God upon America for the sin of slavery.   It happened to us before and is happening to us again.  America is not exceptional in the eyes of God.     

How bad does it have to get before we will fall to our knees as a nation and repent of our collective wickedness?

Pretty bad, apparently.

Watch and learn, pilgrim.    There is more to come and it will not be pretty.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft... 

[thedrumchannell]

Thank you for the information about the blood moon, Choir Loft. I don't know if this will have prophetic significance, but good to know for end time watchers.

God Bless.

[dpr]

Pretty much right on.

There's some small matters he covered that needs clarification. The idea of the "holy covenant" in Dan.11 is not the "league" itself, but is the result of the "league" made. The "holy covenant" represents the re-established old covenant with a new temple and sacrifices again in Jerusalem by the orthodox Jews. Those who forsake that "holy covenant" are his allies against it, the "small people" he has dealings with mentioned earlier in Dan.11.

In Dan.2 about the beast statue, notice it shows 5 pieces 'together'... when the stone not made with hands (Jesus) comes to smite it upon its feet of ten toes, and the whole comes tumbling down. The feet of ten toes of clay mixed with iron represents the final one-world beast kingdom of Revelation 13. Because Dan.2 shows all the other pieces together on top, means the final beast kingdom will include all of those previous beast systems as one. And because the feet of mixed clay and iron is really weak, and the heaviest pieces are on top (gold being the heaviest), it reveals that final beast will be very top heavy, ready to fall.

There's at least two groups of orthodox Jews in Jerusalem today that I know of which have been preparing the materials to build a new temple for last couple of decades. At one time they even tried to place a cut cornerstone upon the Temple Mount (see Land of Israel and Temple Mount Faithful).

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

[lea]

1 John4
Testing the Spirits
...3and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is already in the world at this time. 4You, little children, are from God and have overcome them, because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. 5They are of the world. That is why they speak from the world's perspective, and the world listens to them....
Berean Study Bible
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Is Satan still in this world? No, He is not in this "age to come"

He's in the lake of fire, so rebuke any influence of evil you may hear, in Jesus' name, and you will overcome the world.

[notreligus]

Jesus returned over the skies of Jerusalem during the Roman/Jewish war. Look in the Preterist sub forum for some answers.
God Bless!

Which Roman/Jewish war?   The First or Second?   

I've read estimates of 500,000 to 1,000,000 Jews killed by the Romans during the Second Roman/Jewish war.   

I'm an Amillennial but I do not believe that God turned his back on the Jews, nor did He want to see all of them perish.   God saved a Remnant.   If the Remnant has not done so well it is not due to God's wiping out the Jews.   The Gospel opens the eyes of those Jews who have chosen to be blind to the true Son of God.  God still loves them. They rejected the Suffering Servant because they were looking for a political Messiah.   Those who reject, and still reject, Jesus as the Messiah believe that Isaiah 53 refers to the people, Israel.   God Almighty used a Person, not a people, to reconcile mankind back to Him.  God has rejected no one as anyone is free to accept that the finished work of Christ has saved them.   

What I reject about Preterism is a couple of things.  First of all, Preterists claim that Bible prophecy was fulfilled in 70AD when the Romans destroyed the Temple.   Bible prophecy was and is fulfilled in Christ.  The other error I reject is that the destruction of the Temple did not accomplish what Preterists claim.  The Jews had already turned away from the Temple worship and took up worship in synagogues, and they gave more credence to rabbinical teachings than the Scriptures.   Jesus told the Jews that they had turned His father's house into a den of robbers.  A new and better priesthood was established by Christ.  He is the Great High Priest.   He now reigns over His spiritual kingdom and He will return to establish an eternal (not temporary under Law) kingdom.     We don't need Preterism to show us error in Dispensationalism; Preterism creates more error in the process of trying to do that.   

[lea]

Notreligus,

Maybe not all fulfilled in AD70- that was Jesus' return fulfilled.

But whether the thousand years was symbolic or literal, it's over! 

Perhaps the elect in heaven reigned with the Lord (literally) during the thousand years till AD1070 when Satan was prevented from deceiving on world, and many received the gospel at that time.

I'm praying for some blessings in the future not wars. 

[dpr]

If one really studies their Bible, especially the OT prophets in conjunction with the NT Epistles and Revelation, then it's impossible for our Lord Jesus to have returned already. His 2nd coming is still not happened today. And for those who don't know this, they certainly are in sad shape, because He warned of a certain deceptive event to occur just prior to His 2nd coming.

[lea]

If one really studies their Bible, especially the OT prophets in conjunction with the NT Epistles and Revelation, then it's impossible for our Lord Jesus to have returned already. His 2nd coming is still not happened today. And for those who don't know this, they certainly are in sad shape, because He warned of a certain deceptive event to occur just prior to His 2nd coming.

So, be of good cheer, Jesus has overcome the world!  (not in sad shape either)

[Choir Loft]

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. - Rev. 16:12

Apparently the sixth angel, who shall remain nameless, has been quite busy of late.   
The waters of the Euphrates River, which have flowed from its headwaters in the mountains of Turkey to the sea since time immemorial - are drying up as you read these words !!!!!
Revelation 16:12 has been fulfilled !!!!

The cause of the massive drought in central and southern Iraq is political, not spiritual or mystical.   Over the years a number of dams were built in Turkey for irrigation, flood control, and hydro-electrical power generation.  Many news stories in recent weeks have documented the terrible drought being suffered by Iraqis.  The Euphrates River IS dry.  Rev 16:12 is no longer a future event.  It is now.

For the first time in history, the Euphrates River has dried up.

There is no "next event".   Although actual events in history do not seem to follow the same consecutive order as written in the Bible, they are happening nonetheless.   Something tells me God wants it that way.   Our job is to wait and see, to be good witnesses and to be ready for the advent of Our Lord whenever and however He chooses to appear.

One critical nation needs to be watched; Turkey.

Every red flag in the Bible points to Turkey as a dangerous opponent to Israel and world peace.
 
Consider the following:
All 7 churches of revelation are in Turkey.  Rev. 2-3
The throne of satan is in Turkey.  Rev. 2:13
True north of Jerusalem, Israel is Ankara, Turkey.  Ezek 38:6,15;39:2
Noah's Ark landed on Mt. Ararat in Turkey.  Gen 8:4
Daniel 8 & 11 address the Greek Empire, not Rome.  At its fall, ancient Greece was divided into four parts; Greece, Turkey, Syria & Egypt

The Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantine Empire with its capital of Byzantium/Constantinople, survived the fall of Rome (476) until 1453.  Following the fall of Constantinople to the Muslim Ottoman Empire in 1453 the Ottoman Turkey survived until 1923.

Euphrates River originates in Turkey and will/IS drying up.  Rev 16:12
All the "-stan" central Asian nations are Turkic nations.
Muslims look to Turkey as the global leader of Islam. (The battle flag of Mohammad is in Istanbul/Constantinople as well as His sword.)

Current Turkish president Recep Erdogan wants to throw off the moderate government of Ataturk and restore the Ottoman Empire (former Roman/Byzantine empire).

WATCH TURKEY

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

[lea]

End times of what?

End of the old covenant, written in hyperbolic language.

We are in "the age to come."

God's not going to fight with Israel any longer.  That was centuries ago.

Give it up. Finding people to pray for these days is much more valuable than predicting the future. That's witchcraft anyway(sorry, but true)

You can pray for blessings for the future, stay in faith, and God will answer.  Only God knows the future!

God bless us all!

[Faithbuilders]

1. Ladder rain (revival)
2. Rapture
3. 3.5 years tribulation
4. 3.5 years worse tribulation
5. Return of Jesus
6. 1000 years
7. Short time of real hell on earth
8. The whole universe destroyed by fire
9. judgment of those without Christ
10. Judgment of the works of those who are saved
11. Jesus wipes the tears from our eyes, (as they will be shed though the two judgments)
12. GLORY!

[lecoope]

Hi All....
Does everyone know the next big event coming any day or year to our planet?
No, it's not Jesus coming back to reign for a thousand years.
It's the seven year peace plan.
You can lose your soul if you are deceived by the coming Antichrist.
Here is the best short video I have found explaining this end times prophecy in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPRDpUvrldo
Have a great day!

I think it will be HIS COMING and the rapture event. We should all be ready!

[dpr]

So, be of good cheer, Jesus has overcome the world!  (not in sad shape either)

I hope you are not, I mean not deceived. Because many brethren will be when the coming Antichrist shows up in Jerusalem for the very end of this world.

Our Lord Jesus, His Apostles Paul and John specifically warned us against the coming Antichrist who is to play God in Jerusalem, working great wonders and miracles that IF possible, would deceive even Christ's very elect.

Some preachers are teaching to not be concerned about all that. It's those who need to be worried, because those won't know this first supernatural messiah that's coming will not be our Lord Jesus Christ. And those being deceived just because they listened to some man, instead of staying in God's Word for themselves, ... is what is truly sad!

[lea]

I hope you are not, I mean not deceived. Because many brethren will be when the coming Antichrist shows up in Jerusalem for the very end of this world.

Our Lord Jesus, His Apostles Paul and John specifically warned us against the coming Antichrist who is to play God in Jerusalem, working great wonders and miracles that IF possible, would deceive even Christ's very elect.

Some preachers are teaching to not be concerned about all that. It's those who need to be worried, because those won't know this first supernatural messiah that's coming will not be our Lord Jesus Christ. And those being deceived just because they listened to some man, instead of staying in God's Word for themselves, ... is what is truly sad!

I almost forgot I posted on this topic in 2018!
You're still way off dpr!
First, Jesus told the apostles and his disciples they were the elect. You want to include 21 century believers there, but you and I are not the "elect" in the Bible. Get off that horse and realize the "audience relevance" in the Bible., prophecy or not. Did you evangelize during the first century? Did you bring the gospel to all the known world at that time and suffer a beheading for it by enemies of the gospel? Sigh, did you tabernacle with Jesus in the flesh as the apostles did?
We are not the elect who gave up everything for the gospel of the kingdom's sake! So learn to read scripture with audience relevance in mind.

Next, God is not a respecter of persons.  Earthly Jerusalem Israel today is not Biblical Jerusalem. The heavenly, spiritual Jerusalem is where "righteousness dwells." We see an earthly rendering of it in Rev.21,22. That was the whole point of God separating national Israel of the flesh only and true Israel- Messianic Jews and Gentile Christians.
You're in horror fantasy land if you think that we should be worried about ANY deceiver in our future big time. Know and have peace about the conclusion of the Bible.

You say "it's truly sad" but I'm not interest in feelings. I know the reality that is here now and it is not about our present time. It was the 1st century Christian"present time."  So ponder the audience relevance and you will wind up finding yourself in a state of GRACE and favor., having angels for protection and blessings for the present and future!

Meditate on God's promises and only listen to sermons about faith and grace, not "end time" excuses for not having anything else to preach about.

[dpr]

I almost forgot I posted on this topic in 2018!
You're still way off dpr!
First, Jesus told the apostles and his disciples they were the elect. You want to include 21 century believers there, but you and I are not the "elect" in the Bible. Get off that horse and realize the "audience relevance" in the Bible., prophecy or not. Did you evangelize during the first century? Did you bring the gospel to all the known world at that time and suffer a beheading for it by enemies of the gospel? Sigh, did you tabernacle with Jesus in the flesh as the apostles did?
We are not the elect who gave up everything for the gospel of the kingdom's sake! So learn to read scripture with audience relevance in mind.

You have a terribly twisted interpretation of Bible Scripture.

Col 3:11-12
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
KJV

You need to take those teachings of Judaism and apply them somewhere else, because they have nothing to do with Christianity.

And I definitely agree, you are not of Christ's elect; so it looks like you very well may be subject to falling away to that false messiah that comes first.

[RB]

And I definitely agree, you are not of Christ's elect; so it looks like you very well may be subject to falling away to that false messiah that comes first.

Deceived? Both of you are, but, this is eschatology and by NO MEANS are we to judge a person's regeneration by their understanding of this doctrine~where righteous people disagree, and have since the days of the apostles. Only pride allows another believer to judge the believer's eternal state on this doctrine where there are divers understanding among true believers~and no one person has the corner on eschatology, at least I have not seen this to be true in almost fifty years in the Chrisitan faith. Some may be close, but no man is perfect, impossible.

[dpr]

And you shouldn't go judging when others (like myself) have not judged anyone to condemnation.

There will be many brethren that fall away when the Antichrist shows up and their deceived preachers tell them that's Jesus. That doesn't mean those will be lost to Christ in final though. It simply means they will be deceived, and that means not being of Christ's elect which will NOT be deceived. So understand the difference between warning others about the coming false Messiah vs. condemning one to the lake of fire, which only Jesus has Authority to do. You would think you'd understand how I'm trying to warn brethren of what's coming, showing that I care, instead of trying to condemn them.

[lea]

You have a terribly twisted interpretation of Bible Scripture.

Col 3:11-12
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
KJV

You need to take those teachings of Judaism and apply them somewhere else, because they have nothing to do with Christianity.

And I definitely agree, you are not of Christ's elect; so it looks like you very well may be subject to falling away to that false messiah that comes first.

Good luck with that! God is for me and you are against me - guess who wins?! 
You defeat yourself. Where is your kindness and humbleness pal! ?

See here, I'm not referring to Calvinism. Such is too religious for me.

Colossians 3:9-12

9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self[a] with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. 11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.

12 Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,

Sure, we are chosen ones being born again but you miss the timing in the Bible. The "elect" or chosen ones in AD30-70 are who were written about. Not 2020 saints.
In fact , in Matt.24, when He gathers his "elect" from the 4 corners of the earth after the great tribulation, I believe he meant both the dead and living elect. "But for the elect's sake, those days will be shortened."

[dpr]

Good luck with that! God is for me and you are against me - guess who wins?! 
You defeat yourself. Where is your kindness and humbleness pal! ?

See here, I'm not referring to Calvinism. Such is too religious for me.

Colossians 3:9-12

9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self[a] with its practices 10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. 11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.

12 Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,

Sure, we are chosen ones being born again but you miss the timing in the Bible. The "elect" or chosen ones in AD30-70 are who were written about. Not 2020 saints.
In fact , in Matt.24, when He gathers his "elect" from the 4 corners of the earth after the great tribulation, I believe he meant both the dead and living elect. "But for the elect's sake, those days will be shortened."

If you don't believe you are one of Christ's elect, then you can look for Him to shut the door on you when He returns. Only His elect will serve and reign with Him in the future, which is written.

So you might want to consider the doctrines of men you latch onto more carefully.

[lea]

If you don't believe you are one of Christ's elect, then you can look for Him to shut the door on you when He returns. Only His elect will serve and reign with Him in the future, which is written.

So you might want to consider the doctrines of men you latch onto more carefully.

We are discussing the end times. We were chosen from the foundation of the world but we are not the elect described in the Bible. Get your timing and audience relevance right!

Jesus has already come a second time. But that had nothing to do with him knocking on my heart's door from the first time.
Jesus loves- me- long- time. Obviously, having a personal relationship with him is priceless.

And if I have never believed the futurists claim that He hasn't come again, it means that He did his work the first time, and offered eternal salvation and the gospel. It was done. God was done. He sent his Son.

He returned for judgment on his enemies and to gather his elect up to that time, those dead and alive- who changed to eternal souls at "the twinkling of an eye."

[dpr]

I see you have the Full Preterist cult doctrines in your words, for they believe Jesus' 2nd coming has already happened, which of course is a complete falsehood.

That would explain why you don't recognize those in Christ today as being His elect. Full Preterism is just full of cult heresy one lie after another.