Kings of the earth

[Amo]

https://www.golfchannel.com/news/luke-donald-zach-johnson-meet-pope-francis-part-ryder-cup-year-go-festivities

Luke Donald, Zach Johnson meet Pope Francis as part of Ryder Cup Year to Go festivities

As part of the Ryder Cup Year To Go festivities, the two captains got the full Rome experience.

Luke Donald (Europe) and Zach Johnson (U.S.) visited the Colosseum, hit shots at the Temple of Venus and Roma and met Pope Francis.

The two captains met the Pope at the Vatican and presented him with a replica Ryder Cup trophy — as next year's event will take place at Marco Simone Golf and Country Club, which is just outside of Rome.........

[Amo]

https://people.com/human-interest/pope-francis-meeting-celebrities/

Pope Francis Meeting Celebrities Through the Years

[Amo]

https://www.reuters.com/world/macron-meets-pope-talks-expected-centre-ukraine-2022-10-24/

Article below from link above. Emphasis is mine.

Macron meets pope, discusses Ukraine with Vatican officials

VATICAN CITY, Oct 24 (Reuters) - French President Emmanuel Macron and Pope Francis held talks on Monday, with the crisis in Ukraine and prospects for peace there expected to have been their main topic of discussion.

The Vatican said their private talks lasted 55 minutes but, as is customary, did not specify what they discussed.

Prior to Macron's visit, victims of sexual abuse said the Catholic church was reacting too slowly to a report revealing assaults by French clergy on more than 200,000 children, and urged him to raise the issue directly with the pope.

The Vatican said that Ukraine, particularly the humanitarian situation there, topped the agenda in later talks Macron had with the Vatican's two top diplomats. They also discussed the Caucasus, the Middle East, and Africa.

Topics in such meetings often mirror what is discussed in leaders' private papal audiences.

Macron, accompanied by his wife Brigitte and greeted with an honour guard of Swiss Guards, gave the pope a first edition of German philosopher Immanuel Kant's "Perpetual Peace," published in French in 1796. The pope gave Macron a medallion depicting an early plan for St. Peter's Basilica and some of his writings.

From the Vatican, Macron went to an official lunch hosted by Italy's President Sergio Mattarella, having held talks with new Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni on Sunday.

Macron is in Italy to attend an international conference organised by Italy's Sant'Egidio Community, a worldwide peace and charity group. He and the pope will jointly close the conference at Rome's Colosseum on Tuesday.

Opening it on Sunday, Macron said he believed there was a chance for peace in Ukraine. He also said the Russian Orthodox Church was allowing itself to be manipulated by Moscow to justify the war in Ukraine, and urged it to resist such pressure.

Two hundred thousand children assaulted by clergy in France alone. Yet Macron and an ever increasing number of world leaders still flock to the Vatican for apparent advice from the leader of these very clergy. Go figure. This is at least Macron's third visit with the Pope I believe. Any connection I wonder, with the seemingly constant protests of the people of France contending with Macron's government? Do the people perhaps feel as though Macron is representing someone else's interests over and above their own? Perhaps like Catholic Trudeau in Canada, or Catholic Biden now in the U.S.

[Rella]

https://people.com/human-interest/pope-francis-meeting-celebrities/

Pope Francis Meeting Celebrities Through the Years

First and foremost regarding Macron................ In spite of the claim of agnoticism today Macron was obviously getting his marching orders from Jesuit Frankie.

From an oddly excruciating read on Macron with .....EMMANUEL MACRON HAS BOTH JEWISH ANCESTRY AND INEXPLICABLE TIES TO ROME AND THE ASSYRIAN EMPIRE

https://tricentennial.us/2020/05/09/emmanuel-macron-has-both-jewish-ancestry-and-inexplicable-ties-to-rome-and-the-assyrian-empire/

Emmanuel Macron's Ties To The Global Elites
Others noticed at an early age something was different about him. One of his classmates Antoine Marguet from the private Jesuit school he attended said ""Emmanuel Macron has always been different, at an age when most people only watch TV, he just reads. He was the teacher's equal in some ways, an Olympic intelligence that was further, higher, and faster. Everyone who came across him knew at the time that he was someone extraordinary – that he was different."

Now with that being said... and should be understood... the pedophiles in the RCC are minor compared to what people, as a whole, are doing and permitting to be done to the children of today. Biden approves and I bet Frankie only gives lip service against.

Gender Dysphoria , while a minor problem in the whole of the number of children, on a talk radio program on Friday... (I do not know who was talking just that he was sooooooo upset.... he kept referring to the 600,000 gender dysphoric children and all from puberty blockers to gentile mutilations for them.

Not to give them a pass but the priests for the most part were only into the touchy feely part of things.... like Joe and his nose.

I keep feeling we have ... (we... being my generation) done this to the kids if it is real with out drug abuses and the effects that would have on a fetus. 

But now I am thinking it is just one step closer to the end.... the final end. Satan is in control of not only the Jesuits... as well as other societies through out history... but seemingly is in control of of people as a whole who would permit these aberrations to be done to the least suspecting of society .

There is quasi-medical-scientists with all the specs, studies, and suggested solutions for these kids....

BUT THERE IS NO STUDY ANYWHERE THAT I CAN FIND THAT HAS RESEARCHED HOW MANY OF THESE ARE FROM RELIGIOUS PARENTS.  I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.

With what society approves of for kids and exposure to all thigs deviant it is no wonder the parents likely avoid any thing of God....

"But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea."

After all... keep your little one from believing in Jesus and all will be ok with whatever they do or permit.... right?

[Amo]

No Rella. Two hundred thousand children being abused is never a minor issue. This is just in that one country. Nor does the problem being more prevalent elsewhere, excuse or make these facts any less despicable. Doctrines do matter, and often have dire effects upon those believing and practicing them. There is undoubtedly a connection between mandatory celibacy among priests, and this perversion which plagues the Catholic church the world over. Not to mention all throughout their past. It is a recipe for disaster. 

[Amo]

http://adventmessenger.org/pope-francis-called-for-peace-a-commitment-to-the-environment-a-rejection-of-what-divides-us-and-an-inclusive-diversity-during-his-visit-to-bahrain/

Quoted article below from link above.

Pope Francis Called for Peace, a Commitment to the Environment, a Rejection of what Divides us, and an Inclusive Diversity during his Visit to Bahrain

November 4, 2022 by Andy Roman

Pope Francis is already in Bahrain on his 39th apostolic journey, which will take place from November 3–6, 2022. Pope Francis was welcomed by King Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa at the royal palace along with state officials and diplomats as soon as he arrived. Pope Francis traveled to Bahrain to promote his version of peaceful coexistence during a meeting titled "Bahrain Forum for Dialogue: East and West for Human Coexistence."

In his address, the Pope stated clearly that he was on a mission to push the climate crisis and COP27. The Vatican News reported the following:

"The Holy Father emphasized the importance of working 'tirelessly' to confront the climate emergency, and expressed his hope that the COP27 meeting, taking place in just a few days, would be a 'step forward in this regard'." [1]

The Pope also exhorted everyone to accept the popular ecumenical messages, which urged us to forget the past, reject everything that separates us, and only concentrate on our shared objectives:

"From the same Declaration, the Pope made his own the commitment 'to working for a world where people of sincere belief join together to reject that which divides us and concentrate instead on celebrating and expanding on that which unites us'." [1]

Additionally, Pope Francis stated that he is on a pilgrimage to spread his vision of peace throughout the world:

"I am here, in this land of the Tree of Life," he said, "as a sower of peace, in order to experience these days of encounter and to take part in a Forum of dialogue between East and West for the sake of peaceful co-existence." [1]

"I am here today as a believer, as a Christian, as a man, and as a pilgrim of peace," the Pope said, "because today, more than ever, we are called, everywhere, to commit ourselves seriously to peacemaking." [1]

The Pope also spoke about the evils of war:

"I think especially of the monstrous and senseless reality of war, which everywhere sows destruction and crushes hope. War brings out the worst in man: selfishness, violence and dishonesty. For war, every war, brings in its wake the death of truth." [2]

Finally, the Pope shared his version of peaceful coexistence, which is based on inclusive diversity:

"The country's greatest riches shine forth in its ethnic and cultural diversity, and in the peaceful co-existence and the traditional hospitality of its people. Diversity that is not bland, but inclusive, is the wealth of every truly developed country." [2]

The Pope's version of peace, unity, and coexistence is not the one that is described in the Holy Scriptures. God's peace is based on truth and depends upon the spiritual transformation of the individual. True lasting peace comes when men and women are converted and reconciled to Christ through His gospel, which will lead to obedience and harmony with God's perfect will:

"Great peace have they which love thy law." Psalm 119:165

"And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:7

This is not what the Pope is promoting. No, he is pushing secularism, governmental interventions, globalism, international treaties based upon climate policies, and an 'inclusive diversity' that rejects nothing but embraces everything. The inclusive diversity that the Pope calls for is that of gender ideology, the LGBT+ agenda, Sunday rest, and eradicating a free market economy, which he blames for exacerbating the climate crisis.

The peace that Pope Francis is advocating will lead to sudden destruction because, according to Scripture, it is not founded on the word of God:

"Saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD." Jeremiah 6:14, 15.

"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." 1 Thessalonians 5:3.

It is impossible to abolish war without also abolishing sin. It is impossible to establish peace as long as the "man of sin" is promoting lawlessness. As a result, we can see the futility of the current peace movement as a whole, which does not even attempt to comprehend God's will or His truth. So what does this all mean, then? What we are seeing is the fulfillment of Bible prophecy. The universal cry for peace is a sign that the second coming of Christ is drawing closer.

"For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them." 1 Thessalonians 5:2, 3.

With the eye of faith, can we see that sudden destruction will swiftly follow, even as the universal call for peace is being made today? This plea for peace and safety is a startling and important indication that Jesus is on the way and that the final whirlwind of destruction is approaching quickly. What is our current responsibility? What about the vast number of people who are unprepared for these events? Should we not warn them of the overwhelming surprise that is about to befall them?

What are we doing individually and collectively for the cause of Christ? Are we actively engaged in our mission? Are we overcoming sin and the devil with the "blood of the Lamb" (Revelation 12:11)? Are we putting on the whole armor of God that we will need to be able to stand during the coming crisis of all the ages? Have you made the righteousness of Christ your very own through a living and active faith? If not, let's start right away.

[Amo]

https://www.romereports.com/en/2022/10/25/pope-francis-meets-with-politicians-and-religious-leaders-for-peace-at-the-colosseum/

Pope Francis meets with politicians and religious leaders for peace at the Colosseum

Pope Francis, other religious leaders and several politicians gathered at the Colosseum in Rome. They participated in the Prayer Meeting for Peace organized by the Community of Sant'Egidio.

Among those present were: Roberto Gualtieri, Mayor of Rome; Antonij di Volokolamsk, the Russian Orthodox Foreign Minister; and Mar Awa III, Patriarch of the Assyrian Church in Iraq.

Beloved, in order for us to become authentic peacemakers of Jesus in our time, we must make ourselves available to be his instruments among men—even when we are asked for the gift of our lives.

There were about 2,000 people in attendance at the Colosseum. The President of the Community of Sant'Egidio also spoke about the goal for peace.

Some factions in the service of promoting war explain that there are "just wars" and "holy wars." But a policy that brings death is necropolitics, not desiring life.

Alicia Peressutti was also among the different speakers. She has known Pope Francis since before he was elected to the papacy and is president of the NGO Vinculos en Red, which fights against human trafficking.

As long as there is human trafficking, there is no peace. As long as there is human trafficking and millions are enslaved and suffering torture as they are suffering right now, there is no peace.

During his speech, Pope Francis thanked the various leaders for their presence, particularly those of other denominations. He said that all believers have a special duty in the face of war.

Let us not be infected by the perverted logic of war; let us not fall into the trap of hatred for the enemy. Let us put peace back at the heart of the vision of the future, as the central goal of our personal, social and political actions.

At the end of the event, the religious leaders signed a document for peace as the rest of the attendees displayed banners for peace in several languages.

Ah yes, bringing religion and politics together, the perfect recipe for the dark ages all over again. What about the human trafficking of open borders, allowing millions into nations ready for them or not? Or the actual human trafficking which takes pace in such a healthy environment for human traffickers, created by the same?

[Amo]

https://www.cnet.com/news/politics/apple-ceo-tim-cook-meets-with-pope-francis-in-vatican-city/

Apple CEO Tim Cook Meets With Pope Francis in Vatican City

The pope reportedly granted a private audience to the head of the company that makes iPhones and Macs.

Apple CEO Tim Cook was granted a private audience with Pope Francis on Monday, according to a report from Reuters, citing the pope's public schedule. Cook's stop at the Vatican came amid a larger tour of Italy, during which he's been visiting Apple Stores, app developers and schools following the iPhone 14 launch last month.

Reuters said that, as is customary, the Vatican did not disclose what was discussed during the private meeting. Apple representatives didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.

The meeting marks Cook's latest connection on the world's stage. The 61-year-old tech executive has regularly met with political and business leaders since Apple co-founder Steve Jobs named him as Apple's CEO more than a decade ago. Jobs had also regularly met with world leaders, including a prominent 2011 dinner in Silicon Valley with President Barack Obama.

Cook has continued those efforts, traveling regularly to Washington DC, meeting with lawmakers and US presidents. In 2019, Cook invited then-President Donald Trump to an Apple facility in Texas, which assembled the company's latest Mac Pro computers. Last year, Cook and Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella met with President Joe Biden to discuss cybersecurity amid high-profile hacks that shut down a gas pipeline and a major meat producer.

I guess we should be expecting more censorship or increased invasions of our privacy from Apple products now.

[Hobie]

Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication............................................
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies........
9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pastoral_visits_of_Pope_Francis_outside_Italy

The following quotes are from the link above, all emphasis mine.

I heard he was sick last week and couldn't make the climate change conference, but he gets around..

[3 Resurrections]

The "Kings of the earth" in scripture have nothing to do with the Catholic church at all. 

The "kings of the earth" were considered to be the high priests of the land of Israel, none of which will ever exist again since Christ is the ultimate Great High Priest who will never lose that title. 

[Amo]

The "Kings of the earth" in scripture have nothing to do with the Catholic church at all. 

The "kings of the earth" were considered to be the high priests of the land of Israel, none of which will ever exist again since Christ is the ultimate Great High Priest who will never lose that title. 

Yea, we have been though this before. You are of course entitled to believe as you wish. Though you are simply wrong, as I have clearly pointed out in the past. We will just have to disagree upon this point.

[Amo]

http://adventmessenger.org/pope-francis-emphasized-in-his-state-of-the-world-address-that-care-for-creation-and-peace-are/

Been a while since I have posted on this thread. I'll put it here instead of the Roman Politics thread, as it is appropriate in either. Quoted article below from link above. Some bold and or underlined emphasis is mine.

Pope Francis Emphasized in his "State of the World Address" that "Care for Creation and Peace are the Most Urgent Issues"

Acknowledged by almost every country in the world, Rome has once again become a symbol of both spiritual and temporal power. On January 8, 2024, at the Vatican, Pope Francis delivered his annual "state of the world" address to 184 ambassadors from different countries. Currently, Rome maintains "full diplomatic relations" with 184 nations, with new ties made in 2023 with Oman, Kazakhstan, and Vietnam. Through these diplomatic channels, the Pope is in a position to directly influence the lives of millions and billions of people all over the world. And Pope Francis is using these ambassadors to impart his message that international peace and solving the climate crisis are the two most urgent needs in the world.

The Vatican Press Office published the following remarks made by Pope Francis during his meeting with the world's ambassadors:

• "Peace is primarily a gift of God, for it is he who has left us his peace.  Yet it is also a responsibility incumbent upon all of us: 'Blessed are the peacemakers' (Mt 5:9), to strive for peace. A word so simple, yet so demanding and rich in meaning. Today I would like to concentrate our reflections on peace, at a moment in history when it is increasingly threatened, weakened and in part lost.  For that matter, it is the responsibility of the Holy See within the international community to be a prophetic voice and to appeal to consciences."

• "The climate and environmental crisis was the topic of the 28th Conference of the Parties to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (COP28) held last month in Dubai. I regret that I was unable to participate personally ... The climate crisis demands an increasingly urgent response and full involvement on the part of all, including the international community as a whole."

• "Care for creation and peace are the most urgent issues and they are closely linked. For this reason, I express my hope that what was adopted in Dubai will lead to a decisive acceleration of the ecological transition, through means... [to be] achieved in four sectors: energy efficiency; renewable sources; the elimination of fossil fuels; and education in lifestyles that are less dependent on the latter."

The Papal power of Bible prophecy has emerged as the primary facilitator of international peace, and the 184 ambassadors of the civilized world applaud and welcome these steps toward peace. It is a well-known fact that since 1798, the Papacy has been working to obtain temporal recognition among the nations. Today, we are witnessing nation after nation move in this direction, just as prophecy foreshadowed: "And all the world wondered after the beast" (Revelation 13:3).

Not only is Pope Francis putting himself in a position to broker peace, but he's also taken the lead in developing solutions to the climate crisis. He is leading the call to radically transform our world. They are exploiting the weather to persuade the nations to adopt Laudato Si' and Laudate Deum as environmental solutions.

This is the message that is being offered to world leaders, governments, and politicians. This is the mission that Rome is accelerating through diplomatic relationships. They have been infesting the world with their propaganda while selling Catholic social teachings as the answer to the current crisis and as a deterrent for future climate catastrophes. As one of the most powerful and wealthiest nations in the world, the United States will give life and power to the image of the beast (Revelation 13:15). The proposed relief work to solve the climate crisis will, of necessity, be largely financed and regulated by America (Revelation 13:17).

May the Lord open our eyes. May we see things as God sees them. May we recognize that the man of sin is spreading apostasy and lawlessness to all the world. May our hearts and souls be stirred to action, and may we also feel a sense of urgency. May our tongues be loosed. May the bride of Christ arise. And may she shout with a thousand voices across the world: "Fear God and give glory to Him. Babylon is fallen is fallen. Come out of her my people that ye receive not of her plagues." Why? "Because her sins have reached heaven and God has remembered her iniquity" (Revelation 14:7; 18:4).

[Amo]

https://www.ncronline.org/vatican/view-vatican/imbecile-your-holiness-pope-argentine-president-meet

Quoted article below from link above. My comments in blue.

From 'imbecile' to 'Your Holiness': Pope, Argentine president to meet

Not since Pope Francis welcomed Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the Vatican last May has a papal meeting with a head of state been so hotly anticipated as next week's encounter with Argentina's new President Javier Milei.

On Monday, Feb. 12, at nine in the Roman morning, the man who buttressed much of his presidential candidacy last year with vocal opposition to the Argentine pope will arrive inside the Courtyard of San Damaso, where the flag of their mutual homeland will fly above the Vatican's Apostolic Palace.

The screeds that Milei once used to refer to the pope — among them: "son of a bitch",  "filthy leftist" and "imbecile" — will be replaced with "Your Holiness" when the two men sit face-to-face.

The détente, in fact, began in November, when soon after Milei's election, the pope initiated a call with the president-elect to congratulate the right-wing populist on his victory.

During the eight-minute call, the two men reportedly discussed the difficult circumstances facing their country, where inflation is currently over 200%. Francis is said to have told Milei to have courage and wisdom to face the challenges ahead. Milei, for his part, said he had the courage but is working on the wisdom.

Francis, of course, has had his share of awkward meetings with world leaders.

In 2013, his first encounter with Vladimir Putin got off to a bumpy start when the Russian president was nearly an hour late with the reliably early pope. And, of course, the pope's 2017 tête-à-tête with then-President Donald Trump after Francis had previously questioned Trump's Christianity seemed to have everyone on edge.

With Milei known for his bombastic behavior and his former career as a television pundit, there's no shortage of Milei and Trump comparisons. But Trump was credited for being on his best behavior when he arrived at the Vatican and it's a fair bet that Milei will follow suit.

As papal biographer Austen Ivereigh has written, for Francis, "the relationship comes before the agenda." During then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio's time as archbishop of Buenos Aires, he had a special ministry to politicians of a wide range of backgrounds, Ivereigh added. 

Less than a week after his election as pontiff nearly 11 years ago, Francis welcomed then-Argentine President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner to the Vatican at another closely scrutinized meeting. Despite their own rocky past, having clashed over a range of social issues, the two shared a meal together.

In an interview shortly after Argentina's presidential election, Francis dismissed Milei's past rhetoric against him, attributing it to things said "in jest" during a campaign.

"You have to distinguish a lot between what a politician says in the election campaign and what he actually does afterward, because then comes the moment of concreteness, of decisions," said the pope.

As for Milei, those concrete actions that have followed have included a two-page letter written to Francis last month expressing a desire that he visit their "beloved homeland."

Francis, after years of ambivalence about a homecoming trip, has in recent interviews expressed a desire to make it happen. Although the pope is not exactly a hometown hero, many of the country's faithful remain eager for a papal visit.

Inside the Vatican, there are tentative discussions about a trip in either September or November, just before or after the pope's much-anticipated second session of the synod on synodality. But at 87 years old and in declining health, there are the obvious tensions between the physical demands such a trip would place on the pope and the reality that this could be the final chance for it to happen.

Prior to his official meeting with Francis on Feb. 12, Milei will also attend the Feb. 11 canonization of Maria Antonia de Paz y Figueroa. The nun affectionately known as "Mama Antula" is set to become Argentina's first female saint.

As Brazilian journalist Mirticeli Medeiros observed, Milei's decision to attend the Vatican ceremony will mark a stark contrast to when then-Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro forewent  the 2019 canonization of Brazil's first female saint, Dulce Lopes Pontes.

Despite being the president of the world's most Catholic country, Bolsonaro never met with Francis. Milei's arrival at the Vatican — hat in hand — sends a strong signal he's choosing a different course.

And despite being the unlikeliest of bedfellows, these two Argentines with wildly different politics and persuasions might be able to put their own differences aside for God and for country.

No doubt, we have no idea what has happened behind the scenes, to cause Milei to tuck his tail between his legs, and travel to Rome to grovel before "His Holiness". This is a problem for all Catholic Leaders. When push comes to shove, they will either bow before "Their Holiness" or face the consequences, which can involve Excommunication. What has Milei done but make peace with the man who has put the very things Milei is against down in writing, as that which should be brought about through government legislation by all supposedly good Catholics.
 

[Amo]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pope-francis-dines-with-transgender-women-for-vatican-luncheon/ar-AA1kqu4b

Article below from link above. Emphasis is mine.

Pope Francis dines with transgender women for Vatican luncheon

Pope Francis hosted a group of transgender women — many of whom are sex workers or migrants from Latin America — to a Vatican luncheon for the Catholic Church's "World Day of the Poor" last week.

The pontiff and the transgender women have formed a close relationship since the pope came to their aid during the COVID-19 pandemic, when they were unable to work. Now, they meet monthly for VIP visits with the pope and receive medicine, money and shampoo any day, according to The Associated Press.

"Before, the church was closed to us. They didn't see us as normal people, they saw us as the devil," one member of the transgender group, Andrea Paola Torres Lopez, told the AP.

Some 1,200 people who are impoverished or homeless also attended the luncheon inside the papal audience hall for a full meal and dessert.

[Amo]

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2024-02/pope-francis-meets-with-president-of-tanzania.html

Pope Francis meets with President of Tanzania

[Amo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_meetings_between_the_pope_and_the_president_of_the_United_States

Interesting list of U.S. Presidents which have met with the Pope. The list starts in 1919, which I guess means no Presidents met with the Pope prior to this date. Moving forward to the 60's when apparently all Presidents began meeting with the Pope, after Kennedy. Nothing to see here, move along.

[dpr]

The Jew's ideas that the Christian pope is the Antichrist, and that the Roman Church is the Babylon Harlot of Revelation is nothing but propaganda by 'false' Jews that have crept in among Christ's Church.

The Revelation 17 Babylon Harlot is a CITY, not a pope, not Christianity.


Rev 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
KJV

The above prophecy has not happened yet today. That event is set to happen in JERUSALEM, not in Rome, not in Brussels, not in New York, etc.

The seat of the future one-world beast for the end of this world will be in JERUSALEM, which is where God will send His "two witnesses", and there they will be killed when they complete their 1260 day Testimony for Christ Jesus. Jerusalem is where the seat of the Antichrist beast king will then be...

Rev 11:8
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

I know that may upset some Jewish converts to Lord Jesus, but it's better that someone brings it to their attention about the 'false' Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" that try... to point the main endtime events away from... Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 16 is where God first called Jerusalem a Harlot, because of false worship. So those who read Revelation 17 and can't fathom that Jerusalem is the "great city" it is talking about, it's like those never took the time to study Ezekiel 16, which is very telling of how easily those are duped by the false Jews.

[Amo]

The Jew's ideas that the Christian pope is the Antichrist, and that the Roman Church is the Babylon Harlot of Revelation is nothing but propaganda by 'false' Jews that have crept in among Christ's Church.

The Revelation 17 Babylon Harlot is a CITY, not a pope, not Christianity.


Rev 17:18
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
KJV

The above prophecy has not happened yet today. That event is set to happen in JERUSALEM, not in Rome, not in Brussels, not in New York, etc.

The seat of the future one-world beast for the end of this world will be in JERUSALEM, which is where God will send His "two witnesses", and there they will be killed when they complete their 1260 day Testimony for Christ Jesus. Jerusalem is where the seat of the Antichrist beast king will then be...

Rev 11:8
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
KJV

I know that may upset some Jewish converts to Lord Jesus, but it's better that someone brings it to their attention about the 'false' Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" that try... to point the main endtime events away from... Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 16 is where God first called Jerusalem a Harlot, because of false worship. So those who read Revelation 17 and can't fathom that Jerusalem is the "great city" it is talking about, it's like those never took the time to study Ezekiel 16, which is very telling of how easily those are duped by the false Jews.

This thread is more about Babylon and her relations to and with the kings of this earth, not antichrist. Though the institution itself is obviously antichrist. Your ignorance concerning the Protestant and Huguenot Fathers positions regarding Babylon and the Pope, belie your profession to  be either.

Again, the source of your ignorance, is your Roman Catholic created futurist interpretation of biblical prophecy. Go to, serve the masters you have chosen to believe.

[dpr]

This thread is more about Babylon and her relations to and with the kings of this earth, not antichrist. Though the institution itself is obviously antichrist. Your ignorance concerning the Protestant and Huguenot Fathers positions regarding Babylon and the Pope, belie your profession to  be either.

Again, the source of your ignorance, is your Roman Catholic created futurist interpretation of biblical prophecy. Go to, serve the masters you have chosen to believe.

Nah... this thread is more about PROPAGANDA by FALSE Jews that have crept into your church which secretly push false doctrine against both the Roman Church, and the Protestant Church.

Nor am I a member of the Roman Catholic Church; I am a Protestant Christian, and not a Futurist which is one who supports man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory! So you only show your ignorance of the false Jews that hide among you.

Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV

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Nah... this thread is more about PROPAGANDA by FALSE Jews that have crept into your church which secretly push false doctrine against both the Roman Church, and the Protestant Church.

Nor am I a member of the Roman Catholic Church; I am a Protestant Christian, and not a Futurist which is one who supports man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory! So you only show your ignorance of the false Jews that hide among you.

Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV

The problem with your above false narrative, is that most of the posts on this thread are articles from various non SDA affiliated news sources. Simply recording the factual events and meetings between the Pope, Vatican, and the kings or rulers of the earth. Including a very great number of the elite rich and powerful of this world. One of the biblically prophetic signs attributed to BABYLON THE GREAT.

You know, one of those identifying marks of biblical prophecy you say just don't pan out concerning the papacy being Babylon. Nevertheless, I have filled these threads with the very evidences you say do not exist. From one non SDA news source after another after another from the world over, not to mention many articles and links from the Vatican and or Catholic sources themselves. No one can be shown, what they refuse to see.

You are a futurist, if you deny antichrsit institutions of the past and present, and preach there will only be a future one.

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dpr, you use the term false Jews many times over. Will you tell us who it is that you consider to be real Jews?

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Nah... this thread is more about PROPAGANDA by FALSE Jews that have crept into your church which secretly push false doctrine against both the Roman Church, and the Protestant Church.

Nor am I a member of the Roman Catholic Church; I am a Protestant Christian, and not a Futurist which is one who supports man's false Pre-trib Rapture theory! So you only show your ignorance of the false Jews that hide among you.

Rev 2:9
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
KJV

[dpr]

dpr, you use the term false Jews many times over. Will you tell us who it is that you consider to be real Jews?

That's EASY!

Simply read every REBUKE Lord Jesus Christ gave to the unbelieving Jews that wanted to kill Him, and then reverse their evil fruit in the opposite direction.

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That's EASY!

Simply read every REBUKE Lord Jesus Christ gave to the unbelieving Jews that wanted to kill Him, and then reverse their evil fruit in the opposite direction.

I'll take that as a no.

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Let's try this, what specifically have I said that makes me a false Jew, and why?

[dpr]

Let's try this, what specifically have I said that makes me a false Jew, and why?

I never said YOU were a false Jew. I pointed to doctrine that you espoused which is from false Jews. I don't even know if you are Jewish or not, never asked you that either.

So basically, all you've tried to do against me was a 'smear campaign' because of my EXPOSING doctrines you picked up from the 'false Jews' of the "synagogue of Satan".

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I never said YOU were a false Jew. I pointed to doctrine that you espoused which is from false Jews. I don't even know if you are Jewish or not, never asked you that either.

So basically, all you've tried to do against me was a 'smear campaign' because of my EXPOSING doctrines you picked up from the 'false Jews' of the "synagogue of Satan".

Make it personal if you wish, I am simply defending what I understand to be the truth. Not attacking the person, but pointing out that which I perceive as dangerous error. You came on these threads and declared what I believe to be untrue, I am simply defending what I believe against these accusations. I don't mind that you did this, you have the right. I'm sorry if you mind that I will disagree and state why, but I also of course have the right. Thank God we both have these kind of rights, while they last.

[dpr]

Make it personal if you wish, I am simply defending what I understand to be the truth. Not attacking the person, but pointing out that which I perceive as dangerous error. You came on these threads and declared what I believe to be untrue, I am simply defending what I believe against these accusations. I don't mind that you did this, you have the right. I'm sorry if you mind that I will disagree and state why, but I also of course have the right. Thank God we both have these kind of rights, while they last.

NO, YOU are the one TRYING to make it PERSONAL.

So is that what you do, make false claims with smear campaigns against those who Biblically show your doctrines are false? That is a favorite tactic of Communists, by the way. Instead of actually ADDRESSING the Scriptures I posted that reveal the doctrines you push about the Antichrist are false, you go into SMEAR MODE like a little coward.

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NO, YOU are the one TRYING to make it PERSONAL.

So is that what you do, make false claims with smear campaigns against those who Biblically show your doctrines are false? That is a favorite tactic of Communists, by the way. Instead of actually ADDRESSING the Scriptures I posted that reveal the doctrines you push about the Antichrist are false, you go into SMEAR MODE like a little coward.

OK chief, whatever you say. Glad you're not calling me a false Jew, or Communist. Just saying I act like one. Who smears other people because I am a coward. Or are you saying I just act like a cowardly people smearer. Wouldn't want to misjudge your words, of course. I'm not a false Jew, Communist, people smearing, coward. I just act like one, right?

Just so you know, I won't be convinced by such thoughts, that I am wrong. Perhaps a more in depth approach at further proving and establishing your points, and pointing out the real error of my own, would be more constrictive and or convincing. Just a thought.

[dpr]

OK chief, whatever you say. Glad you're not calling me a false Jew, or Communist. Just saying I act like one. Who smears other people because I am a coward. Or are you saying I just act like a cowardly people smearer. Wouldn't want to misjudge your words, of course. I'm not a false Jew, Communist, people smearing, coward. I just act like one, right?

Just so you know, I won't be convinced by such thoughts, that I am wrong. Perhaps a more in depth approach at further proving and establishing your points, and pointing out the real error of my own, would be more constrictive and or convincing. Just a thought.

That is STILL... showing you'd rather work SMEAR fruit than stick with Bible Scripture Evidence that I have posted.

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https://www.planet-today.com/2023/09/globalist-pope-francis-joins-forces.html

Quoted article below, from link above.

Globalist Pope Francis Joins Forces with the Clintons, Yellen, Whitmer, Newsom, and Others for Global Initiative 2023

The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) 2023, scheduled for September 18-19 in New York City, has announced that Pope Francis will be attending the summit together with other globalists to discuss topics like climate change, gender-based violence, and long-term reconstruction efforts in Ukraine.

Pope Francis will kick off the event with a special conversation with Bill Clinton.

 "CGI 2023 will begin Monday at 9:15 AM ET with a special conversation between President Clinton and His Holiness Pope Francis via remote link, on what it takes to keep going on the most pressing global challenges of our time like climate change, the refugee crisis, the welfare of children, and the mission and projects of the Bambino Gesù Children's Hospital," according to the press release.

The event will also feature a roster of globalists, including Janet L. Yellen, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury; Gavin Newsom, Governor of California; Jen Psaki, former White House Press Secretary and current MSNBC host; Gretchen Whitmer, Governor, Michigan; Ruth Porat, President, Chief Investment Officer, and Chief Financial Officer of Alphabet and Google; Dana Perino, Co-Anchor of America's Newsroom and Co-Host of The Five on FOX News Channel; and others.

The Pope's participation in an event hosted by a foundation with a history of political entanglements raises questions about the Vatican's increasing foray into global politics. Critics argue that the Pope's involvement could be seen as an endorsement of the Clinton Foundation's agenda.

In July, Francis met Bill Clinton and Alex Soros at his residence at the Casa Santa Marta. No man in the past 40 years has done more damage to the Western World and civilization than George Soros, Alex's father, and yet the commie pope welcomed them with open arms.

Also, in June, Francis met with Brazil's Marxist President Lula da Silva at the Vatican. The two South American leftists shared a kiss.

Last month, Pope Francis attacked conservative Catholics in the US during a meeting with Jesuits. Francis said US conservative Catholics were "backwards" in their thinking and have replaced faith with ideology.

 "Pope Francis has blasted the "backwardness" of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time," AP reported.

"Francis' comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the U.S. Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage," the outlet added.

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https://www.realclearreligion.org/articles/2024/01/12/why_is_pope_francis_working_with_communists_1004497.html

Quoted article below from link above.

Why is Pope Francis Working with Communists?

Communism is antithetical to religion.

The hundreds of millions of graves around the world attest to that. The millions persecuted behind the Iron Curtain and falsely imprisoned — such as the Hungarian Cardinal József Mindszenty in the 1940s and, more recently, Catholic media tycoon Jimmy Lai by the Chinese government — are evidence to that as well.

The Soviet Union's decades of religious suppression was displayed to the entire world when the Polish people cried, "We want God," during Pope John Paul II's 1979 apostolic trip to his homeland.

However, an ideology bent on liberating humanity from the "opium of the people" and conforming the populace into a unified groupthink is, at its core, opposed to the worship of God, and the inalienable rights gifted by Him. As Communist philosopher Karl Marx once proclaimed: "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness."

The path to true happiness, then, is found in humanity — and not in pursuing a relationship with a transcendent Creator. As Jesus Christ reveals "No one can serve two masters"; under communism, however, that master is the state. There is no room for God. 

Yet proponents of this genocidal, anti-Christian philosophy were openly welcomed at the Vatican by Pope Francis as part of a "transversal dialogue project" on Jan. 10. Formed in 2014, the group, DIALOP, is composed of socialists, Marxists, communists and Christians, aiming to propose a "common social ethic that can be proposed as a new narrative for a Europe in search of its identity," according to Vatican News.

In brief talks, the pontiff encouraged the group to envision a "better world": one not embroiled by today's "wars and polarizations," or one that treats society's vulnerable as castaways. He then referenced how Nazism "discarded the vulnerable and killed them." The irony, however, is that Communist regimes killed more people than the Nazis in the 20th century. Perhaps the meeting and collaborating with open Marxists, socialists and communists is no surprise. Since elected, critics and commentators alike have wondered if the pope is a communist due to his "critique of free-market economics," which he again criticized during the Jan. 10 audience.

Yet Pope Francis, in this respect, was aligned with Catholic Social Teaching in his speech: that every person is a child in the eyes of God, and worthy of dignity. While collaboration between groups to better humankind is laudable, the pope is aligning with people who subscribe to a philosophy that has wrought great evil in the 20th and 21st centuries. More importantly, he is not correcting those same people to recognize the turmoil its wreaked. His apologists could argue Christ worked with tax-collectors, and associated with prostitutes and other societal outcasts — but His message centered on their conversion and repentance. Both are fundamental to Christianity and acting upon the corporal works of mercy, which if adhered to, would establish the "common social ethic" that is being sought.

This spiritual battle between religiosity and communism has not been merely a phenomenon of John Paul II's pontificate. Since the mid-19th century, the Catholic Church has protested against the "pernicious fictions" of Marxism, socialism and communism, the earliest being Nostis et nobiscum in 1849. In Rerum Novarum (1891), Pope Leo XIII was quite clear "that the main tenet of socialism, community of goods, must be utterly rejected, since it only injures those whom it would seem meant to benefit, is directly contrary to the natural rights of mankind, and would introduce confusion and disorder into the commonweal."

Nearly half a century later, Pope Pius XI in Divini Redemptoris (1937), an encyclical on "atheistic communism," viewed communism as a "threat" toward which the Church could "not remain silent." He wrote:

"The Communism of today, more emphatically than similar movements in the past, conceals in itself a false messianic idea. A pseudo-ideal of justice, of equality and fraternity in labor impregnates all its doctrine and activity with a deceptive mysticism, which communicates a zealous and contagious enthusiasm to the multitudes entrapped by delusive promises. ...Communism, moreover, strips man of his liberty, robs human personality of all its dignity, and removes all the moral restraints that check the eruptions of blind impulse. There is no recognition of any right of the individual in his relations to the collectivity; no natural right is accorded to human personality, which is a mere cog-wheel in the Communist system."

Then in 1949, Pope Pius XII approved a decree that excommunicated active Communists, and that the philosophy is an "irreconcilable enemy" of the Catholic Church. However, the decree's effects were "widely ignored by priests in many countries," since "many priests interpreted the decree as applying only to Communist party leaders, not to ordinary card-carrying members," according to a 1973 New York Times report.

Nevertheless, John Paul II's mission to tear down the Iron Curtain was the culmination of the Church's combat against communism, not merely an outlier in the institution's history. Even Catholic organizations, like the Knights of Columbus, spent a century fighting the philosophy by aiding refugees escaping communist countries, arming soldiers battling the Bolsheviks, organizing nationwide awareness tours, paying for Cardinal Mindszenty's expenses while he lived in exile, and even facilitating formal diplomatic relations between the United States and the Vatican in the early 1980s.

Which makes Pope Francis's outreach to communists more troubling and confounding, especially in light of Fiducia Supplicans — a controversial decree that has opened the door to same-sex blessings. The Holy Father doesn't appear to mind confusing the faithful by stretching Catholic doctrine to its limits; nor is there urgency on his part to curb the increasing polarization within the "universal Church," as evident by the mixed response to the Vatican's Synod on Synodality, the firing of a critical conservative bishop, and Fiducia's approval (which sparked both praise from clerics like Father James Martin and immense pushback from bishops around the world, particularly in Africa). This Jan. 10 meeting, while not as inflammatory, certainly doesn't help his optics in an age where it matters — perhaps more so than in any previous era. 

Ultimately, the Lord hears the cry of the poor, and since we are "Christ's body on earth" (as eloquently stated by St. Teresa of Avila), we have an obligation to tend to the vulnerable of society. But will Pope Francis hear the cries of the hundreds of millions killed by communism's believers? Or will he affirm the philosophy's anti-religious belief by misguidedly envisioning a "better world" with them?

If the latter, the pope will go against more than a century of Church teaching and, once again, harm the faithful's trust in his leadership.

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Neglecting this thread once again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pope-francis-g7-biden-nato-leaders-ai/

Quoted article below from link above.

Pope Francis is first pope to address G7 summit, meets with Biden, world leaders

Pope Francis, the first pope to attend a G7 summit, urged the leaders of the world's wealthy democracies Friday to keep human dignity foremost in developing and using artificial intelligence, warning that the technology risks turning human relations into mere algorithms.

Francis was invited by Italy's prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, the host of the summit, to address a special session on the perils and promises of AI. He offered an ethical take on an issue that is increasingly on the agenda of international, governmental and corporate board summits.

The pope said politicians must take the lead in making sure AI remains human-centric, so decisions about when to use weapons — or even tools that are less lethal — always remain made by humans and not machines.

"We would condemn humanity to a future without hope if we took away people's ability to make decisions about themselves and their lives, by dooming them to depend on the choices of machines," he said. "We need to ensure and safeguard a space for proper human control over the choices made by artificial intelligence programs: Human dignity itself depends on it."

The pope himself has also been the subject of AI-generated mischief. Last year, when images appeared online showing the 86-year-old pontiff atypically wrapped up against the elements in a stylish white puffer jacket and silver bejewelled crucifix, they soon went viral, racking up millions of views on social media platforms. The photos were an artificial intelligence rendering generated with the AI software Midjourney.

The spread of AI and migration were two of the major topics discussed by world leaders at the summit. After the session, the pope, in a wheelchair and white robes, met separately with the G7 leaders and was greeted with a round of applause, and he spoke with them for about 25 minutes.

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https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-vatican-comedians-f702834c1c07bc5988e39ef88458b6b8

The pope and 100 comedians walk into a room: Watch Pope Francis as he meets Colbert, Conan, Whoopi and more

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https://apnews.com/article/zelenskyy-italy-visit-pope-francis-meloni-d24d92183d1db65b87dec14edb8dc1a5

Zelenskyy meets Pope Francis at Vatican and seeks backing for Ukraine's peace plan