Trump - video game makers - youth violence

[soterion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29EN9Anic9Q

I personally wouldn't say that playing violent video games is a direct cause of real world deadly violence...the vast vast majority of people who play these games are not out killing people. However, I agree that constant exposure to violence in games, television/movies, music, etc., has to have negative consequences.

I believe that the games influence some people who otherwise are more susceptible, such as those with mental health issues and those exposed to trauma in their daily environment (abuse at home, school bullying, etc.) which can eventually lead to acting out in aggressive and even violent ways. But even with this, actual deadly violence is rare.

[mommydi]

I believe that the games influence some people who otherwise are more susceptible, such as those with mental health issues and those exposed to trauma in their daily environment (abuse at home, school bullying, etc.) which can eventually lead to acting out in aggressive and even violent ways.

I believe the violent video games influence everyone who plays them - some more than others.
When you think about the level of violence in our entertainment today juxtaposed with our entertainment 50 years ago, it's amazing. Back then, we had the Three Stooges bopping each other on the head, and being portrayed as silly fools for behaving that way. Nowadays, we have movies and video games that portray the violent as heroes.

Not to go off on too much of a tangent, and this may sound like a dumb observation but I sometimes wonder if extreme violence occurs in societies where no violence is allowed. When I was in high school, boys got into dust ups, fist fights, and such which allowed them to work out their angst in a physical way. That's not allowed in our society today. Does repression/suppression of any amount of violence lead to outbursts of greater violence? Is this one reason violent video games and movies are so popular - because they allow the viewer to fantasize about actions they're not allowed to take?
I may be way off here, but it does make me wonder.

[Texas Conservative]

No one in politics really wants to place the blame on what really is a base problem because it is not politically correct to do so.

The broken family.  The amount of kids being raised by single mothers.

Statistics overwhelmingly show a tie to males in fatherless environments having a much greater risk for violent outbursts, prison, etc.

[mommydi]

No one in politics really wants to place the blame on what really is a base problem because it is not politically correct to do so.

The broken family.  The amount of kids being raised by single mothers.

Statistics overwhelmingly show a tie to males in fatherless environments having a much greater risk for violent outbursts, prison, etc.

I agree with that.
Last week, my daughter told me that over half the kids in Oklahoma are on Medicaid healthcare programs. To me, that's an indicator that single moms are trying to carry the load.

[soterion]

I believe the violent video games influence everyone who plays them - some more than others.
When you think about the level of violence in our entertainment today juxtaposed with our entertainment 50 years ago, it's amazing. Back then, we had the Three Stooges bopping each other on the head, and being portrayed as silly fools for behaving that way. Nowadays, we have movies and video games that portray the violent as heroes.

Not to go off on too much of a tangent, and this may sound like a dumb observation but I sometimes wonder if extreme violence occurs in societies where no violence is allowed. When I was in high school, boys got into dust ups, fist fights, and such which allowed them to work out their angst in a physical way. That's not allowed in our society today. Does repression/suppression of any amount of violence lead to outbursts of greater violence? Is this one reason violent video games and movies are so popular - because they allow the viewer to fantasize about actions they're not allowed to take?
I may be way off here, but it does make me wonder.

Talking about working out the angst, if I recall, I had heard that schools had taken PE out. I may have heard wrongly, but if that is the case, then there goes one area of outlet. I bet that most, if not all, of the young mass murderers were not involved in extra curricular activities, such as sports.

When you mentioned extreme violence possibly occuring where violence is not allowed, it made me think of sexually suppressed or celibate groups where we find sexual abuses. I am not sure about any correlation you are thinking of, but it may be.

The psychology behind these murders is more complicated than will be figured out anytime soon.

I would say that if our society would turn back toward God and get rid of this insistence to eliminate Him from our schools and government, then we will be way better off. Our youth would hear more about the living God, grow up in more stable environments, and thus have a better chance of expressing themselves in ways that do not involve killing others.

[soterion]

No one in politics really wants to place the blame on what really is a base problem because it is not politically correct to do so.

The broken family.  The amount of kids being raised by single mothers.

Statistics overwhelmingly show a tie to males in fatherless environments having a much greater risk for violent outbursts, prison, etc.

I agree as well. It is sad, the effects on our society.

[mommydi]

Talking about working out the angst, if I recall, I had heard that schools had taken PE out. I may have heard wrongly, but if that is the case, then there goes one area of outlet. I bet that most, if not all, of the young mass murderers were not involved in extra curricular activities, such as sports.

When you mentioned extreme violence possibly occuring where violence is not allowed, it made me think of sexually suppressed or celibate groups where we find sexual abuses. I am not sure about any correlation you are thinking of, but it may be.

The psychology behind these murders is more complicated than will be figured out anytime soon.

I would say that if our society would turn back toward God and get rid of this insistence to eliminate Him from our schools and government, then we will be way better off. Our youth would hear more about the living God, grow up in more stable environments, and thus have a better chance of expressing themselves in ways that do not involve killing others.

Good thoughts, soterion. I've previously brought up the lack of physical exercise in our society. I've never been to Europe, but my kids have and my sister lived in Germany for several years. They've all made mention of how Europeans walk and ride bicycles so much more than we do in the US. Most of the parents in my neighborhood drive their kids to the bus stop when it's only a block and a half away. I rarely see kids walking through the neighborhood and riding bikes.
We have a grocery store a 1/2 mile from this neighborhood, but I never see anyone walking to that store (including myself). We're a sedentary society, which isn't good for mental health.

[TonkaTim]

No one in politics really wants to place the blame on what really is a base problem because it is not politically correct to do so.

The broken family.  The amount of kids being raised by single mothers.

Statistics overwhelmingly show a tie to males in fatherless environments having a much greater risk for violent outbursts, prison, etc.

This.

[TonkaTim]

This.

I have no doubt we can trace the vast majority of all social ills directly to the planned obsolescence of the family.

[chosenone]

I remember watching a study that was done with a group of young boys.  They were playing well and nicely with each other. They then got them to play some computer games that were quite violent(for their age) and after that they then started acting violently with each other. Interesting.
Its very important what we see and do and how we spend our time, especially as children. In many serious crimes its always discovered afterwards that the criminal was spending time playing violent games or watching violent porn etc. It does have a serious effect on children and teenagers, as well as adults.

Also when many of us grew up, we would be out playing and mixing with friends and didn't watch much TV either back then. far more emotionally and physical healthy.

[chosenone]

Talking about working out the angst, if I recall, I had heard that schools had taken PE out. I may have heard wrongly, but if that is the case, then there goes one area of outlet. I bet that most, if not all, of the young mass murderers were not involved in extra curricular activities, such as sports.

When you mentioned extreme violence possibly occuring where violence is not allowed, it made me think of sexually suppressed or celibate groups where we find sexual abuses. I am not sure about any correlation you are thinking of, but it may be.

The psychology behind these murders is more complicated than will be figured out anytime soon.

I would say that if our society would turn back toward God and get rid of this insistence to eliminate Him from our schools and government, then we will be way better off. Our youth would hear more about the living God, grow up in more stable environments, and thus have a better chance of expressing themselves in ways that do not involve killing others.

I think its more that groups for those who are celibate, such as RC priests, attracts those who are sexually deviant anyway. Its thought that 70% of RC priests are gay and of course for phedophiles it was always a good way to get near to children. 

[soterion]

Ona lighter note, when I was a kid, the most violent stuff on television was Loony Tunes.

No joking, that is some violent material.

[mommydi]

Ona lighter note, when I was a kid, the most violent stuff on television was Loony Tunes.

No joking, that is some violent material.

[Texas Conservative]

The Bible is highly violent material. 

[mommydi]

The Bible is highly violent material.

How many of today's youth spend hours each day engrossed in those passages?   

[Texas Conservative]

How many of today's youth spend hours each day engrossed in those passages? 

Yesterday's youth did.  Today's youth are more violent?

[mommydi]

Yesterday's youth did. 

When was that? Not in my lifetime. None of my friends (and I had some pretty spiritual friends) came home from school and lingered for hours over scripture each day the way today's youth does with video games and electronics. I seriously doubt my parents and their friends came rushing home from school to study the scriptures for hours each night - but I'll ask them.   

TexasConservative, if you came home from school and studied the Bible each night, for hours, where your parents had to force you to put it down and get some schoolwork done or to go to sleep - then you were the exception to the rule - not the rule. 

[Texas Conservative]

When was that? Not in my lifetime. None of my friends (and I had some pretty spiritual friends) came home from school and lingered for hours over scripture each day the way today's youth does with video games and electronics. I seriously doubt my parents and their friends came rushing home from school to study the scriptures for hours each night - but I'll ask them.   

TexasConservative, if you came home from school and studied the Bible each night, for hours, where your parents had to force you to put it down and get some schoolwork done or to go to sleep - then you were the exception to the rule - not the rule. 

Yesterday isn't just last generation.  It could be at any time.  My point being that violent crime is actually down as a percentage of population considerably.

According to FBI statistics I was looking at, violent crime increased steadily from 1960 reaching its peak in 1994 and has made a downward spiral since.  The current violent crime rate is about the same as 1970.

[mommydi]

Yesterday isn't just last generation.  It could be at any time. 

Which generation is it? I'd seriously like to know. Was there ever a time where kids spent hours a day reading the Bible the same way they spend hours each day on video games and electronics? I've heard that for a short time, early in American history, the Bible was used as a primary textbook in schools, but those days are long gone.

According to FBI statistics I was looking at, violent crime increased steadily from 1960 reaching its peak in 1994 and has made a downward spiral since.  The current violent crime rate is about the same as 1970.

I don't know if I trust any stats that come from the FBI.
I do know that we are manipulated by the MSM and government to believe certain trends that support their agendas.

[Texas Conservative]

Which generation is it? I'd seriously like to know. Was there ever a time where kids spent hours a day reading the Bible the same way they spend hours each day on video games and electronics? I've heard that for a short time, early in American history, the Bible was used as a primary textbook in schools, but those days are long gone.

I don't know if I trust any stats that come from the FBI.
I do know that we are manipulated by the MSM and government to believe certain trends that support their agendas.

I got the stats directly from the database and calculated the violent crime rate myself.  The video games might be an outlet for some wayward youths.  At least for violence.  I am sure there are many other issues it causes.