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Messages - Kenneth Sublett

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A Christian is a Disciple and a Disciple is a Student and students attend SCHOOLS OF CHRIST (the Campbells) where they READ and MUSE the Word.  Speaking where the BIBLE SPEAKS is always a dangerous thing and arouses suspicion

Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city
        them that PREACH him,
        being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day [singular].

Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their RULERS,
         because they knew him not,
         nor yet the voices of the prophets
         which are READ every sabbath day, [singular]
         they have fulfilled them in condemning him

Jesus said that Doctors of the Law "Take away the key to knowledge." That is their job: that is what they do as foreordained says Jude.

Luke 18:6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith.
Luke 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect,
        WHICH CRY DAY AND NIGHT UNTO HIM
        though he bear long with them?

Luke 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily.
        Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh,
        SHALL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH?

John 15:25 But this cometh to pass, that the WORD
        might be fulfilled that is written in their law,
        They hated me without a cause.

John 17:14 I have given them THY WORD
        and the WORLD hath hated them,
        because they are NOT OF the world,
        even as I am not of the world.

The World or Ecumenical widely promoted in programs teaching A CHRISTIAN WORLD VIEW.

Kosmos hadumelē k. keladein to sing sweet songs of praise,esp. of the world as estranged from God by sin, ib.16.20, 17.9, al., 1 Ep.Cor. 1.21, etc.; “k. kai sōphrosunē”
5. houtos ho k. this present world, i.e. earth, OPPOSITE. heaven, Ev.Jo.13.1; regarded as the kingdom of evil, ho arkhōn tou k. toutou ib.12.31.
V. Pythag.name for six,

NEVER follow a MULTITUDE: they probably are lead by a Pied Pan Piper.

I feel danger!

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Theology Forum / Re: Hidden mysteries of God:
« on: Yesterday at 09:32:36 »
Matt. 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth A SON
        and they shall call his NAME Emmanuel,  [not YHWH]
        which being interpreted is, God with us.
Matt. 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him,
        and took unto him his wife:
Matt. 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth HER firstborn son:
        and he called his name JESUS.

That's a mystery!

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Theology Forum / Re: Questioning the Authority of the Torah
« on: Thu Jul 19, 2018 - 13:02:41 »
I believe that Alexander Campbell was a Reformed Baptist who was preaching the Bible view of baptism although the clergy didn't catch on.  It was his Sermon on the Law which broke the bond. While the Scriptures remove the LAWS OF DAVID and the Monarchy and AFFIRM the PROPHETS, ALL or close to all religionists treat the "Old Testament" and "New testament"as having equal authority

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FROM ACU: "A major task facing our churches is the reintegration of the Old Testament into the regular teaching, thinking and practice of the church" (p. 49).

I don't know of (and I Quote) a single early church scholar who didn't understand what Stephen said that "God turned them over to worship the starry host" which including the holocaust of innocent goats and innocent infants.

I don't know of a single preacher in my tribe who does not TEACH that the Laws of the Monarchy was God's PATTERN for worship until He changed HIS LAWS.

BURTON COFFMAN is the only known exception.

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/bcc/1-samuel-8.html

Coffman's Commentary Speaks for the total Bible view that Israel's rejection of God as King, Judge and Priest set the stage for their later repudiation of Jesus Christ in order to keep the evil Temple-System like all other nations. Remember that the clergy was still seeking a king "like the nations" and had not a hint of looking for a Spiritual King, Prince and Mediator:

The great Cambridge scholar, Henry McKeating, has the following comment on this passage from Hosea:

"Hosea is not only antagonistic to the northern kings but to the monarchy as such. The monarchy is powerless to save the nation. Israel was wrong to ask for a king. Her punishment was that she got what she asked." 7: Henry McKeating, Amos, Hosea, and Micah (Cambridge: University Press, 1971), p. 148.

Coffman: "We are aware that it is popular among many able commentators today to make apologies for Israel's monarchy and to apply what the Scriptures plainly say about it to some specific monarch, Saul, for example, as did Dummelow, or to the kings of Northern Israel as did Hailey;
but it is the conviction of this writer that
Israel was totally and completely wrong in asking a king and that this rejection of God (that is what the text calls it) contained embryonically all of the later sorrows of the Chosen People.

Throughout the whole history of Israel, there were very few monarchs who even tried to serve the Lord. Solomon was to be blamed for the division of the kingdom under his son, because the people simply rejected the excesses of Solomon; and yet, even after God took the monarchy away from them, the nation wanted nothing in heaven or on earth as much as they wanted the restoration of that scandalous Solomonic empire.

It was this, more than anything else,

that motivated their rejection of God Himself,
finally and irrevocably,
in their rejection of God's Son, Jesus Christ the Holy One.

Go down the list of Israel's kings, David, the very best of all of them, was an adulterer and a murderer; and he also corrupted the worship of God by two sinful things:

(1) his initiating the events that led to the building of the temple (the den of thieves and robbers in Jesus' times); and

(2) his introduction of instruments of music into the worship of God. We do not have the space here to outline all of the misdeeds of Israel's shameful monarchy,

but it is clear enough that God's disapproval of the monarchy was no late thing, applicable only to the phantom kings of Ephraim's final years, but it rested upon the monarchy from the very beginning of it as outlined in this chapter.

If God had ever approved of it, He would never have taken it away from them! Nevertheless, God accommodated to the sinful conduct of His people and in many specific instances blessed the kings of Israel,


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Theology Forum / Re: The Old Regulations & Rituals
« on: Thu Jul 19, 2018 - 12:41:12 »
The meaning of Creation includes the fact that GOD WORKED for 6 DAYS  to create mankind and everything needed for a happy life
The SABBATH means REST from any religious observation claiming to assist God.  The Hebrews PROFANED the Sabbath at Mount sin with their old Egyptian worship under the visible image of GOLDEN CALVES. PLAY on the REST day included singing, playing instruments, dancing.  God abandoned them to WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST and sentenced them to return to Assyria for total BABYLON for almost total destruction.

The Sabbath as SEVENTH meant to WORK for six days and rest on the seventh not connected to the starry host or ASTROLOGY. During the festivals for male Jews the HOLY CONVOCATION was held on the FIRST DAY.

Ex. 12:16 And in the FIRST day there shall be an holy convocation,
       and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you;
       no manner of work shall be done in them,
       save that which every man must eat, that ONLY may be done of you.

EXCLUSIVE: G4399.mla}kah, mel-aw-kaw´; from the same as 4397; properly, deputyship, i.e. ministry; generally, employment (never servile) or work (abstractly or concretely); also property (as the result of labor):—business, + cattle, + industrious, occupation, (+ -pied), + officer, thing (made), use, (manner of) work((-man), -manship).
       G4397.  mal}ak, mal-awk´; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

SYNAGOGUE was held on the FIRST and SEVENTH days.

INCLUSIVE:



Not then or ever did Jews or Gentiles hold HOLY CONVOCATIONS.

WHAT THE JEWS DID to pollute the REST day and never made it HOLY TO THE LORD.

4Q166 (4QpHosa) Dead Sea Scrolls, (Plus, pg. 276-7 Vermes)

"I will put an end to her rejoicing, her feasts, her new moons, her Sabbaths, and all her festivals (Hosea ii,11).

"Interpreted, this means that they have rejected the ruling of the law,
and have followed the festivals of the nations.
But their rejoicing shall come to an end and shall be changed into mourning.
I will ravage her vines and her fig trees, of which she said, 'They are my wage which my lovers have given me'. I wall make them a thicked and the will beasts shall eat them...ii, 12

But they, like Adam, have broken the Covenant (vi, 7)
Its interpretation... they have forsaken God and walked according to the decrees of the Gentiles..
..

KEEPING THE SABBATH  means that you don't ADD anything of your own WORK which PROHIBITS long walks or "Sending out ministers of God.

The Christian REST or the Greek PAUO is "another day."

There is a long list of things which PROFANE the SABBATH under the Law.  The Greek PAU0 is used in the literature meaning to STOP whatever you are doing as a "Laded burden by burden Laders."

2Th. 1:7 And to you who are troubled REST with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

The SERVICE of the Priests and Levites who PERFORMED for everyone means Hard Bondage.

KEEP (guard) the SABBATH HOLY which means PURE.  After Constantine Christians were given A day of REST when they had none. They tried to prevent Christians from attending the always-polluted seventh days including Mithra.  They NEVER STOPPED assemblying on the FIRST day for the Lord's Supper and EDUCATION.


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Theology Forum / Re: Questioning the Authority of the Torah
« on: Wed Jul 18, 2018 - 19:52:20 »
What do you think about the quotations from Jeremiah.  The prophets spoke by the Spirit of god to refute the Monarchy and define Messiah's REST both inclusively and exclusively.

Peter wrote to leave us a memory of the Apostle's eye-- and ear-- witnesses.  Jesus of Nazareth fulfilled Holy Scripture which he includes as the prohets and other prophecies "Concerning Me."

Peter said that Jesus made these prophecies more certain and validated by signs and wonders.

Peter outlawed private interpretation or "further expounding" which would repudiate the Spirit of God who "worked with Jesus."

Isaiah 1 and many other passages prove that God did not command the Civil-Military-Clergy whom God abandoned to worship the Starry Hosts (Acts 7).  They worship the CREATURES and ignored the CREATOR who commanded that Sabbath be a REST (includes education as refreshing) and not a "worship ritual" including sacrifices and holocausts which God DID NOT COMMAND.

Cyril of Alexandria, Commentary on John, born c. 375—died June 27, 444

http://www.piney.com/Cyril.Alexandria.Gospel.John.html

That the Pharisees puffed up unto strange boasting,
        were wont to pretend that the Divine Word was with them and in them,
        and therefore foolishly affirmed that they had advanced to marvellous wisdom,
        the Spirit Itself will testify, since Christ says by the Prophet Jereremiah unto them,
                How do ye say, WE are WISE, and the word of the Lord is with us?
                For nought to the scribes became their lying pen;
                the wise men were ashamed, were dismayed and taken;
                what wisdom is in them? because they rejected the WORD of the Lord.

             Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced IN spirit, and said,
                    I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth,
                    that thou hast hid these things from the WISE and prudent,
                    and hast revealed them unto babes: even so,
                    Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

The Wise or Sophists were self-authored preachers, singers or instrument players (Ezek 33)
The Prudent are highly trained craftsmen whom John in Revelation 18 calls Sorcerers.
Jesus said that the Doctors of the Law "take away the key to knowledge.


Cyril again:

For how are they not taken rejecting the Living and Hypostatic Word of God,
         receiving not the faith to Him-ward,
         but dishonouring the Impress of God the Father,
         and refusing to behold His most true Form (so to say)
         through His God-befitting Authority and Power?

For the Divine and Ineffable Nature is in no other wise apprehended (so far as may be) by us,
        than through what It effects and works,
        therefore Paul directs us to go from the greatness and beauty of the creatures
        proportionably unto the contemplation of the Creator
        The Saviour again leads us to the apprehending of Himself, saying,
                If I do not the works of My Father, believe Me not;
                but if I do, though ye believe not Me, believe My works.

And with great reason did He blame His own disciple (this was Philip)
        who imagined thoughtlessly that he could in any other way
        attain to the contemplation of God the Father,
        albeit it was in his power to consider His Uncreated Image,
        which shews accurately in Himself Him Who begat Him.

2Cor. 4:4 In whom the god of this WORLD
        hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,
        lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ,
        who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


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Theology Forum / Re: Questioning the Authority of the Torah
« on: Wed Jul 18, 2018 - 15:03:32 »
MOST of the people I read including Messianic Jews speak of TORAH but then quote David (at least the one I know) and think that the Torah authorizes the "worship" services to which God abandoned them. They teach that the New Covenant defined by Jeremiah and others is the same TORAH (and quote the prophets) given only to the Jews but with additional power.  Gentiles can STILL hitch a ride if they act like Jews.

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses,
       but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Rom. 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus
      hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom. 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness
       to every one that believeth. [and is baptized to CALL UPON THE NAME OF CHRIST]
 
The LIBRARY we call thee Old Testament is of value because it deals with all of the forms of NATIONAL sacrificial systems which never replaced the synagogue or Assembly.  The history the Hebrews written by Scribes of unauthorized kings is nevertheless the history of abject failure.

A Christian assembly is built upon [educated by] the Prophets and Apostles.  The Prophets inspired by the Breath of God resulted in WORDS WHICH condemn the national or abandoned oppressors: Nehemiah wrote that they were imposed BECAUSE OF OUR SINS.

That fits "the law was added because of transgression."  We don't disparage the "Torah" but we don't use a system of bondage as our PATTERN for the Christian Assembly defined as places of rest and education to refresh our souls with no clergy roles or doles.

The radically altered LAWS OF THE MONARCHY ignored the Torah.





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Theology Forum / Re: Romans 3:25
« on: Tue Jul 17, 2018 - 12:11:16 »
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We need only to read the writings of Paul and see that it is this that Paul went out preaching. If baptism were a requirement for one's salvation, wouldn't Jesus have sent Paul to preach that? And wouldn't Jesus have sent Paul to baptize?

Paul DID baptize without violating Jesus' sending mission. If you wanted to be taught the secrets OF Peter the Tentmaker, you would be baptized BY the Master Teacher and be given a NEW NAME and become part of the family BEFORE He would teach you any trade secrets.  The people HAD been baptized but were divided into sects taught by the baptizer.

We are baptized IN THE NAME of Jesus Christ so that; in later times, people baptized into THREE "NAMES" and consistently baptized or sprinked THREE TIMES.

1Cor. 1:10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the NAME of our Lord Jesus Christ,
        that ye all SPEAK the same thing,
        and that there be no DIVISION among you;
        but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same MIND and in the same JUDGMENT.

The TEACHING from Paul's letter to the ROMANS was that they "Use one mind and one mouth to speak that which is written for our learning" or "Scripture for our Comfort" as the PARAKLETE function.

1Cor. 1:11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren,
        by them which are of the house of Chloe,
        that there are CONTENTIONS among you.
1Cor. 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith,
        I am of Paul;
        and I of Apollos;
        and I of Cephas;
        and I of Christ.
       
        [Apollos taught the baptism of John: was corrected by Aquilla and Priscilla. 12 others were baptized in the Name of Jesus which gave one A holy spirit. Paul ordained those who spoke in tongues and able to teach by inspiration)]

1Cor. 1:13 Is Christ divided? was Paul CRUCIFIED for you?
        or were ye baptized in the NAME of Paul?
1Cor. 1:14  I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
1Cor. 1:15 LEST any should say that I had baptized IN MINE OWN NAME.
1Cor. 1:16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas:
        besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.

1Cor. 1:17 For Christ sent ME not to baptize,
        but to preach the gospel: NOT with wisdom of WORDS,
        LEST the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

In Romans 6 Paul could teach them to be baptized as a FORM of the death, Burial and Resurrection of Christ.
Christ was put to dean IN THE FLESH but made ALIVE in the Spirit.

A mortal can DIP a person into water but they have nothing to do with how the BLOOD of Jesus

Heb. 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart
        in full assurance of faith,
        having our HEARTS SPRINKLED from an evil conscience,
        and our bodies WASHED with pure water.

Paul could not purify their spirit and neither could others who often boast about how many THEY have baptized.

Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
        and the first begotten of the dead,
        and the prince of the kings of the earth.
        Unto him that loved us,
        and WASHED us from our sins in his own blood,

g3068. louo, loo´-o; a primary verb; to bathe (the whole person; whereas 3538 means to wet a part only, and 4150 to wash, cleanse garments exclusively): — wash.

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Theology Forum / Re: Is the word rapture biblical?
« on: Mon Jul 16, 2018 - 22:51:45 »
There are several words for RAPTURE but when Jesus comes back for us the idea is that we will just RISE into the air and not RAPED or YANKED violently.

The ANTITHESIS is the almost universal pagan idea of being "Heavy Laden" meaning "Spiritual anxiety created by religious ceremonial."  In Romans 15 Paul outlaws SELF PLEASURE which means "creation of mental anxiety" which makes speaking the WORD for confession and learning impossible. The Word Ariskos is the HERESY word of someone "Lifting you up with mental arousal so they can CHOOSE to carry you or your property away for their own use."  I have been RAPTURED out of three of my investments with the Lord.

False churches use sound, motion, lights or odors to "LEAD YOU INTO THE PRESENCE OF GOD" as the object of any kind of music.

The Literature is filled with many forms of RAPTURE. Pan below uses his panpipes to "cause PANice to carry you away."

Soph. Aj. 693
Chorus
I shiver with RAPTURE; I soar on the wings of sudden joy! [695] O Pan, O Pan, appear to us, sea-rover, from the stony ridge of snow-beaten Cyllene. King, dancemaker for the gods, come, so that joining with us you may set on the Nysian and the Cnosian steps, [700] your self-taught dances. Now I want to dance. And may Apollon, lord of Delos, step over the Icarian sea [705] and join me in his divine form, in eternal benevolence!


Two of the THOUGHT LEADERS Calls the Holy Spirit God's song writer and dance master..

Apollōn , ho, Apollo: Sun God, leader of the LOCUSTS or muses:

Soph. Trach. 209 Chorus

Girls who are brides to be, come, sing in triumph
with shouts, wild shouts of joy for our hearth and home;
and let the voices of men be one
with ours in prayer to the archer-god
Apollon, our defender!
Then,
210 maidens, raise the paean aloft

(Paean song of triumph, any solemn song or chant." "Paeon" was also the name of a divine physician and an epithet of Apollo)

and cry to his sister
Ortygian Artemis, wielder of torches, slayer of deer,
and the nymphs of the neighboring hills.
I am raised on high, I will not reject
the cry of the flute: thou tyrant of mind and soul!
Behold me: the ivy -
euoi! -
220 goads me to frenzy and whirls me
round in the strife [wrath, orgy]  of Bacchus!
Io io Paean!
My lady, behold,
behold, you may clearly see these things
are taking place before you.

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Theology Forum / Re: Wider Hope - Salvation
« on: Mon Jul 16, 2018 - 17:01:49 »
quote] Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,[/quote]

Titus 2:1 But SPEAK thou the things which become SOUND DOCTRINE:
Titus 2:2 THAT the aged men be sober, grave, temperate,
        sound in faith, in charity, in patience.
Titus 2:3 The aged women likewise,
        that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness,
        not false accusers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things;
Titus 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober,
        To love their husbands, to love their children,
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good,
        obedient to their OWN husbands,
        that the WORD of God be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:6 Young men likewise exhort to be sober minded.
Titus 2:7 In all things shewing thyself a pattern of good works:
        in doctrine shewing uncorruptness, gravity, sincerity,
Titus 2:8 Sound speech, that cannot be condemned;
        that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed,
        having no evil thing to say of you.
Titus 2:9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters,
        and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Titus 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity;
        that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

FOR is enim meaning WHAT I MEAN IS DO these things BECAUSE

Titus 2:11 FOR the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us THAT,
        denying ungodliness and worldly lusts,
        we should live soberly, righteously, and godly,
        in this present world;
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope,
         and the glorious appearing
        of the great God AND our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Titus 2:14 WHO gave himself for us,
        THAT he might redeem us from all iniquity,
        and purify unto himself a peculiar people,
        zealous of good works.

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Theology Forum / Re: The Old Regulations & Rituals
« on: Mon Jul 16, 2018 - 14:36:05 »
SO TRUE: Sabbath demanded that people be given REST 1 out 7 days especially when they worked 6 days. 
Sabbath or rest specifically quarantine the people to their isolated villages so that they could not walk far enough to attend any of the seventh day rituals.

The Greek word for REST or JUST STOP IT is PAUO.  Liberals want to KEEP all of the "observations" to which the kingdom does not come AND add a few more ACTS and STAFF to keep you busy all week.  I always found Sunday the hardest day of the week.  The LADED BURDEN Jesus died to remove is "Spiritual anxiety created by religious ceremonialism." The "Shock and Awe" caused when WE OFFER worship opportunities IS LAW BASED.

Sorry about the picture I can supply links:

Matt. 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden,
        and I will give you REST.
Matt. 11:29 Take my yoke upon you,
        and LEARN of ME; [I know of no one who understands that]
        for I am MEEK and LOWLY in heart: [I don't know anyone like that]
        and ye shall find REST unto your SOULS. [not available]
Matt. 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my BURDEN is light.


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Theology Forum / Re: The Old Regulations & Rituals
« on: Mon Jul 16, 2018 - 09:00:42 »
Buff's column: 
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MR. PRESIDENT— Handle your problems with NATO diplomatically, not arbitrarily. The pros and cons of disputed points can best find solutions by addressing them tactfully or skillfully, not inflexibly. Resistance is the result of communicating arbitrarily. Positive results often follow sensible diplomacy.—Buff.

I posted photos of Trump and Rocket man to prove that Trump doesn't need advice.

Buff Responded diplomatically!


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Kenneth, these photos and your remarks have zero nothing to do with the contents of my column. Please remove them—now!

Gen. 26:2 And the Lord appeared unto him, and said,
         GO not down into Egypt; DWELL in the land which I shall tell thee of:
Gen. 26:3 SOJOURN in this land,
        and I will be with thee,
        and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed,
        I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
        and will give unto thy seed all these countries;
        and in thy SEED shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen. 26:5 BECAUSE that Abraham
        obeyed my voice,
        and kept my charge,
        my commandments,
        my statutes,
        and my laws.

Gal. 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the CURSE of the law,
        being made a curse for us: for it is written,
        Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal. 3:14 THAT the blessing of Abraham might come on the GENTILES through Jesus Christ;
        that we might receive the promise of the Spirit [The promise made by God]
        through faith.
Gal. 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men;
        Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed,
        no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

The only spiritual covenant was made with Abraham and Excluded the Levites abandoned to Babylonianism (Gen 49)

Gal. 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
       He saith not, And to seeds, as of MANY;
       but as of ONE, And to thy SEED, which is Christ.
Gal. 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant,
       that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law,
       which was four hundred and thirty years after, CANNOT disannul,
       that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal. 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise:
       but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

BECAUSE ABRAHAM OBEYED ANYTHING GOD COMMANDED HIM TO DO.

The Land and the House or Temple was spiritual and not OF those bound to keep ALL of the CARNAL ORDINANCES

If God abandoned the Civil-Military-Clergy to worship the starry host there is nothing under the curse of the Monarchy which as any value for the Church which is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles..

JESUS defined Holy Scripture as the PROPHETS and other Scripture CONCERNING ME.

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The teachings of Jesus and Paul are almost always ANTITHESIS of the views of pagans. The three Graces of Ugliness are one view of the most ancient TRIPLE GODDESSES.  Notice the symbolism of the LITERAL GRACE as permissiveness demanded



The GRACES and MUSES as Apollon's worship team were not nice people.

Grace is in the same class as WORD or LIGHT, LIFE.  Jesus is the Visible-Audible Image of all of God's qualities and authority.

Notice that GRACE actually APPEARS and TEACHES in the same class as WORD which is the visible-audible image and dispenser of God's REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE.  Baptism imaged by the flood and Red Sea is the MAKING KNOWN of the Prophetic Teachings of God. Someone else does all of the work involved in baptizing you and you cannot WORK your way by REJECTING the First command of Jesus to go, teach, baptize, and teach as the meaning of the ASSEMBLY.

The Biblical REST Jesus rest FORBIDS any work beyond being refreshed by INGESTING the Free Water and Bread of the WORD.

GRACE hath APPEARED like LIGHT in the Face of Jesus. God's GRACE is the BY which were are KEPT SAFE by FAITH which obeys.





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Theology Forum / Re: The Old Regulations & Rituals
« on: Sun Jul 15, 2018 - 13:12:46 »
Just testing: not even any sense of humor! I feel the danger.

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Theology Forum / Re: Romans 3:25
« on: Sun Jul 15, 2018 - 11:37:00 »
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Acts 16:30-31
30 And he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

Still can't honor the context:

Acts 16:29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,
Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said,
        Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
        and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Belief or Faith comes by HEARING:

Acts 16:32 And they spake unto him the WORD of the Lord,
        and to all that were in his house.
Acts 16:33 And he took them the same hour of the night,
       and washed their stripes;
       and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

These people DO repentance and Baptism!

Acts 16:34 And when he had brought them into his house,
      he set meat before them, and rejoiced,
      BELIEVING in God with all his house.

They were not BELIEVERS until they had OBEYED the gospel.

Rom. 10:16 But they have not all OBEYED the gospel.
       For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath BELIEVED our report?

God BREATHED into Isaiah with the Spirit OF Christ and PREACHED THE GOSPEL. When the eunuch heard this gospel he WANTED to be baptized.



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Chapter 32 deals with the settlement of the tribes of Reuben, Gad, and half of Manasseh in Gilead, on the east side of the Jordan River.  Was it a bad thing that they settle on that side? Moshe was of the opinion that if they build shelters for their children, wives, and cattle first and then, join the other tribes to conquer the land of Canaan, then, after the wars and conquest, they could go back to their families.

Good point but we should look at the whole context as a VITAL history which everyone ignores in order to keep MARKET-BASED or Lucifer-based religions collapse and cause a historic Crash.

The Little Flock of Lost Spirits or pilgrims and sojourners are aware that MANY (MACRO) are called or invited but FEW (MICRO) are Chosen.   Chosen is based on the INVITED answering the INVITATION to be added to the Ekklesia or Synagogue of Christ and HIS WORD (Regulative principle) as the Logos or Regulative Principle.  The SYNAGOGUE was neither TABNERCLE nor TEMPLE: NEITHER OF WHICH were "houses of worship." The PREDESTINY of the godly according to Jacob in Genesis 49 (whenever it was written) was not to join or covenant with the LEVIs nor enter into their synagogues.  The Law of Moses was enforced by the Priests and Levites neither of which God commanded: they came with their Civil-Military-Clergy

This is something the theologians missed when they. Made-Off with a Worthless sheep skin.  The Tabernacle was never a House of Worship" but a WITNESS: it had a central location and its Driven Purpose

Acts 7:44 Our fathers had the tabernacle of WITNESS in the wilderness,
        as he had appointed, speaking unto Moses,
        that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen.
Acts 7:45 Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus [Joshua]
        into the possession of the Gentiles,
        whom God drave out before the face of our fathers,
        unto the days of David;
Acts 7:46 Who found favour [grace] before God,
        and DESIRED to find a TABERNACLE FOR the God of Jacob.
Acts 7:47 BUT Solomon built him an HOUSE.
Acts 7:48 HOWEVER the most High dwelleth NOT in temples made with HANDS;
        as saith the prophet, [Sorry that you gave your child's food money for that Mega-House)
Acts 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool:
        what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Acts 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in HEARD and ears,
        ye do always RESIST the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.

Building a SECOND  Sacrificial Altar was seen as a threat to the unity between the tribes east and west of the river.

Deuteronomy 32 gives the RISING UP TO PLAY musically and with one another as defined in Romans 1:

http://www.piney.com/Romans.1.html

God TURNED THEM OVER TO WORSHIP THE STARRY HOST instead of the CREATOR of the Host.  Jerusalem was already set up for Sabazianism on Mount Moriah so that THE LORD--GOD permitted David to build a TENT on Mount Zion as an alternative to the Tabernacle.

THE TORAH AS THE LAWS OF MOSES WERE IMPOSED BECAUSE OF THE TRANSGRESSION AT MOUNT SINAI. Paul gives this as an EXAMPLE or WARNING PATTERN in 1 Corinthians 10 and Romans 10 use to REFUTE the notion of predestination in the TERMINAL sense.

Deuteronomy 31 comes next but is ignored by all Jewish and Gentile Theologians who, according to Jesus, take away the KEY to knowledge.

Deut. 31:20 For when I shall have brought them into the land
        which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey;
        and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat;
        then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them,
        and provoke me, and break my covenant.

The historic Israelites who honored God were Quarantined from the slaughter pit and HOUSE which God didn't command and ASSEMBLED on the sabbath (REST) day to hold a holy convocation. This was always the FIRST day of any ANY commanded assembly. The pattern never changed even for the church.

WHY DO ALMOST ALL JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FOLLOW THE PATTERN OF THE TEMPLE AND ARE PURPOSE DRIVEN TO DEPRIVE THE PEOPLE OF THE GOD-ORDAINED SYNAGOGUE.  Paul used a SYNAGOGUE word for "gather, assembly or come together."

Instead of Schools of Christ (all of the Bible and the Campbells) ALMOST EVERYONE with attend have a Worship Observation PERFORMED and, as they say, OFFERED for the paying offering. That's fine but Jesus said that the kingdom does not come with observation and God does not judge by SIGHT or SOUND (Isaiah 110





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Theology Forum / Re: Is the word rapture biblical?
« on: Thu Jul 12, 2018 - 16:47:11 »
A bird of prey.


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Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat,
       and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart,
       because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them,
        Go ye into all the world,
        and preach the gospel to every creature.
Mark 16:16 He that believeth
      AND is baptized
      shall be saved;

That's how to be saved: there are many ways to be damned.

        but he that BELIEVETH NOT shall be damned.

Complieth Not is the MEANING of Believeth Not Jesus connecting obedience in baptism as the WAY He determined to give believers A good conscience as the way that BAPTISM DOTH NOW SAVE.

Psa. 78:22 Because they believed not in God, AND trusted not in his salvation:
Psa. 78:23 Though he had commanded the clouds from above, and opened the doors of heaven,

Luke 1:20 And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak,
       until the day that these things shall be performed,
       because thou believest not my words,
       which shall be fulfilled in their season.
John 10:26 But ye believe not, BECAUSE ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

Those who RECEIVED THE WORD GLADLY were BAPTIZED.
Those who BELIEVETH NOT or will not or NEED NOT comply and obey the direct word of Jesus will be damned.  They refuse BECAUSE they are SELF WILLED and can't stop challenging the Prophecy of the Spirit, the example and command of Jesus and everyone.



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YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO READ THIS: I just have to do something while listening to Congressional Hearing.

Yogi bear:
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Galatians 3:26-28 (KJV)
26  For ye are all the Galatians 3:26-28 (KJV)
26  For ye are all the children of God (1) by faith in Christ Jesus.
27  (2) For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ (3)have put on Christ.
28  (4)There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. .
27  For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28  There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
WE are children of God by faith BECAUSE we were baptized  into Christ

There is many proofs that this is true so that claiming that we are saved by FAITH alone ignores the text and a lack of appreciation for the whole body of Scriptures.

(1) The word faith in Greek and Hebrews includes acting upon what you TRUST for your salvation.)
(2) The word FOR means that we are saved by faith BECAUSE we have been baptized
(3) Faith without actions never gets one INTO Christ.
(4) There is no distinction between races of people

We have quoted over and over from Genesis 49 that the godly people were NOT to join in the assemblies or covenant with Levi.

Abraham was not SAVED by FAITH ONLY: He was JUSTIFIED because he obeyed God's commands.

Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
         and will give unto thy seed all these countries;
        and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen. 26:5 Because that Abraham
        obeyed my voice,
        and kept my charge,
        my commandments,
        my statutes,
        and my laws.

Especially in Galatians 3 Paul DISCOUNTS the Law Period as ever related to Spiritual Life.  The Covenant made by God in Christ with Abraham was NEVER ALTERED by the Law.

Paul very often uses forms of parallelism: He restates the first statement wiith an explanation so that no one can get confused.

Gal. 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith IN Christ Jesus.
Gal. 3:27 (What I mean to say is)
        as many of you as have been baptized into Christ
        have PUT ON Christ.

One never gets the Bridal Garment without washing.

[27] quicumque enim in Christo baptizati estis Christum induistis

Enim why because, for, for instance, namely, that is to say, I mean, in fact I. To corroborate a preceding assertion, yes indeed, yes truly, of a truth, to be sure, certainly, indeed: A. To prove or show the grounds of a preceding assertion

ĕt-ĕnim ,
I. conj., subjoins a corroborative clause, or one which contains the reason of a preceding statement, for, truly, and indeed, because that, since (not freq. till class. times,

Literary example

Cic. Off. 1.39 13. Again, if under stress of circumstances individuals have made any promise to the enemy, they are bound to keep their word even then.

FOR INSTANCE , in the First Punic War, when Regulus was taken prisoner by the Carthaginians, he was sent to Rome on parole to negotiate an exchange of prisoners;

Heb. 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith,
        having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience,  based on the blood of Jesus.
        and our bodies washed with pure water.

WASHED: g3068. lou/w louo, loo´-o; a primary verb; to bathe (the whole person; whereas 3538 means to wet a part only, and 4150 to wash, cleanse garments exclusively): — wash.

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John 3:23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim,
        because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

At one time the Jordan river had meandered further into Jordan at a place where there was a spring and a large pool. You can find it on Google Earth and see that the river has silted up so that the spring is not as close to the river.  However, these people knew more about sanitary engineering than our country 50 years ago and it would never be polluted.

Itenerary Egeria c 381-384
Then I remembered that according to the Bible it was near Salim that holy John baptized at Aenon. (John 3:23) So I asked if it was far away. "There it is", said the holy presbyter, "two hundred yards away. If you like we can walk over there. It is from that spring that the village has this excellent supply of clean water you see." Thanking him I asked him to take us, and we set off.

He led us along a well-kept valley to a very good clean spring of water which flowed in a single stream. There was a kind of pool in front of the spring at which it appears holy John Baptist administered baptism. "This garden", said the holy presbyter, " is still known in Greek as Cepos tu Agiou Ioanni, or in your language, Latin, "St. John's Garden". "A great many brothers, holy monks from different parts, travel here to wash at this place. So once more we had a prayer and a reading at the spring as we did in the other places. We said a suitable psalm, and did everything which was usual when arriving at a holy place.

The holy presbyter also told us that nowadays at Easter the candidates who are to be baptized in the village, in the church called Opu Melchisedech, receive their actual baptism in the spring itself. Then, directly afterwards, they go off by torchlight singing psalms and antiphones, and accompagnied by the clergy and monks.



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Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach,
        except they be sent? as it is written,
        How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace,
        and bring glad tidings of good things!

Rom. 10:16 But they have not all OBEYED the GOSPEL.
        For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath BELIEVED our report?

This is a parallelism OBEYING is included in the word BELIEVED or TRUST.

Those who preach FAITH ONLY and refuse to breath too deeply ignore that the GOSPEL to be effective must be OBEYED.

Pause and Define the word OBEY.

        g5219.  hupakouo, hoop-ak-oo´-o; from 5259 and 191; to hear under (as a subordinate),
        i.e. to listen attentively; by implication, to heed or conform to a command or authority: —
        hearken, be obedient to, obey.


Paul quotes from Isaiah 53:1.   .

A Church of Christ is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and Apostles. The Prophets taught the certified Prophets and outlawed private interpretation or further expounding.

        1Pet. 1:12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things,
                which are now reported unto you by them
                that have preached the gospel unto you with [from Isaiah]
                the Holy Ghost [In the Word] sent down from heaven;
                which things the angels desire to look into.

Paul is quoting what the eunuch was reading but could not understand Isaiah 53

Is. 53:1 Who hath BELIEVED our report?
       and to whom is the ARM [Messiah] of the Lord revealed?

Isaiah 3 then preaches the gospel which the eunuch heard and WANTED TO BE BAPTIZED.

     Believed is h539 Aman to render or be faithful, TO GO TO THE RIGHT.

     Is. 30:21  And your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying,
            “This is the WAY, WALK in it,”
            when you turn to the right or when you turn to the left.


    h541.  aman, aw-man´; denominative from 3225; to take the right hand road:—
     turn to the right. See 539.


The Assembly of Christ is the WAY that is called a SECT: it is a narrow road and you MUST pick up your feet and walk.

If you refuse to OBEY:

2Th. 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God,
        and that OBEY NOT the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Believeth Not is the Greek APISTOS which says I WILL NOT OBEY.

1Pet. 4:17 For the time is come that JUDGEMENT
       must begin at the house of God:
       and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them
       That OBEY NOT the gospel of God?

The COMMAND is to be BAPTIZED before you can be added to the HOUSE OF GOD which is the Church of God

Faith is believing that WATER which we understand to cleanse the FLESH can be used to cleanse the SPIRIT as the natural antithesis.  Isaiah 55 tells us not to BUY the free water of the Word which, with WIND, are images of the SPIRIT or BREATH of God.

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Martin Luther preached SOLA FIDE.  Since Faith comes by hearing the WORD of God, Sola Fida rests on Sola Scriptura.  Since, Scripture teaches BAPTISM FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS, Sola Fide rests on SOLA BAPTISM because Jesus put HIS power in an external INSTRUMENTAL MEANS. Luther puts more power in the WATER than churches of Christ put the power in Obedience.

John Calvin's infant sprinkling was "in the room of circumcision" and was not effective for the remission of personal sins as a believer.  Alexander Campbell, understanding Calvin, said of Calvin's paper that he could be a CAMPBELLITE.

http://www.piney.com/Martin.Luther.Baptism.and.the.New.Birth.html

22. It is relative to the power and energy wrought by the Holy Spirit that John speaks,
        Indicating the source and means of the power of this witness,
        when he says of Christ, "This is he that came by water and blood," etc.

In this sentence is included all we possess in the kingdom of Christ,
        and here is extolled the efficacy of our beloved baptism and the blood or sufferings of Christ.
        Here John unites all the elements in one bundle, so to speak, making a triune witness.
        They bear joint witness to our faith and confirm it--these three: the water, the blood and the Spirit.

BAPTISM BY WATER AND BLOOD.

23. Christ comes, first, "by water"; that is, by holy baptism.
        He employs baptism as an outward sign of his work in the new birth of man and in man's sanctification.

Note: a sign or seal must be something one can witness. We know that water does not save but BAPTISM SAVES because it is the only visible sign that one has ASKED for A holy spirit.

This water by which Christ comes cannot be A MERE EMPTY SIGN;
        or he comes not merely to cleanse or bathe the body with water,
        but to purify the whole man from all pollution and blemishes inherent in him from Adam.

Christ has instituted a cleansing wholly UNLIKE the Mosaic ablutions under the Old Testament dispensation. Moses came with various laws relating to washings and purifications, but they were only cleansings of the body or of the flesh and had daily to be repeated.

Now, since these [WASHINGS] ceremonials contributed nothing to man's purification in God's sight--a thing to be effected by nothing short of a new birth--Christ came with a new order of cleansing, namely, baptism,

    which is not a mere external ablution from physical impurities,
    but a washing effective in man's purification from the inward pollution
    of his old sinful birth and from an evil conscience,

    and bringing remission of sin and a good conscience [243] toward God, as Peter says. I Pet 3, 21.  Paul, also (Tit 3, 5), calls baptism the "washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit."

24. Christ first instituted baptism through John the Baptist. To distinguish it from the Mosaic baptism, the old Jewish rite of washings,


Note: Luther, like Calvin seems to speak of adult baptism..

ALSO: Christ styles it "a baptism unto repentance and the remission of sins."
He designs that therein MAN shall perceive his inner impurities and know them to be, in God's sight, beyond the power of outward Mosaic ablutions to reach;

shall know also that purification of the conscience and remission of sins must be sought and obtained through the power of Christ the Lord, WHO INSTITUTED BAPTISM . none but Christ, the Son of God, and that through his own death.

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Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations,
        baptizing them in the name of the Father,
        and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Sorry about that: I don't have a first century grammar.

19] euntes ergo docete omnes gentes baptizantes eos in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti

Discipling is the Greek:

g3100. matheteuo, math-ayt-yoo´-o; from 3101;
       intransitively, to become a pupil; transitively, to disciple, i.e. enrol as scholar: —
       be disciple, instruct, teach.
       to learn (in any way): — learn, understand.

And they have to BELIEVE the gospel and can confess that "Jesus is the Christ the SON of the Living god. Believe and Obey are not the same:

Rom. 10:16 But they have not all OBEYED the GOSPEL.
        For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath BELIEVED our report?

Isaiah by the Spirit OF Christ preached the gospel in Isaiah 53.

The eunuch has been discipled or TAUGHT and has the option of ACCEPTING that teaching:

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias,
        and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?
Acts 8:31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me?
        And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Acts 8:32 The place of the scripture which he read was this,
        He was led as a sheep to the slaughter;
        and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
Acts 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away:
        and who shall declare his generation?
        for his life is taken from the earth.
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said,
        I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth,
        and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:
        and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest.
        And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still:
        and they went down both into the water,
        both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

BAPTIZED IS:
g907.  baptizo, bap-tid´-zo; from a derivative of 911; to immerse, submerge; to make whelmed (i.e. fully wet); used only (in the New Testament) of ceremonial ablution, especially (technically) of the ordinance of Christian baptism: — Baptist, baptize, wash.

The eunuch does not grasp the gospel spelled out by Isaiah including baptizing
He that is TAUGHT
And Believes
Changes direction
Asks to be baptized
And is baptized for the remission of sins:
Teaching or Discipling does not remit sins.
Now, he is equipped to become a student for the rest of his life.
I believe that the eunuch can now read BLACK text on BROWN paper (2 Cor.3) when he READS it or when it is PREACHED by being READ in the assembly once a week.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up OUT of the water,
        the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip,
        that the eunuch saw him no more:
        and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus:
        and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

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I have never personally spoken with someone about that problem, who had the problem. I have heard of people in the CofC who got baptized again and again, trying to find peace, I suppose thinking that was the only way for their sins to be forgiven. I would think their guilt arose from some moral failure, rather than a teaching on baptism. But, I would admit that they were probably trained in a very legalistic environment. A legalistic understanding of baptism was just one example of their training.

I have been an active listener for over 80 years and have learned that "they say" is always false.
Simple Simon is taught that repenting AND being baptized for the remission of sins and receiving A holy spirit is the condition for Jesus adding DISCIPLES or STUDENTS to His Ekklesia-Synagogue.  Even repenting is emphasized as simply deciding to turn TOWARD Jesus in turning away from the world and NOT THE method for ceasing to be a drunk. 

You guys mocked or ignored my Hebrews (In that black book) WHICH PROVES that if you recognize Jesus as your HIGH PRIEST the writer shows you HOW to be sanctified or receive A holy spirit Sounds like Muddy Stream Media to me.  There is no LEGALISTIC way to SANCTIFY our spirit and make it fit to dwell in a SPIRIT WORLD.
 
Matt. 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them,
         saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Matt. 28:19 Go ye therefore,
        and teach all nations,
        BAPTIZING them in the name [singular]
        of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Once you have made a disciple and added to His Church as a School of the Word then you are competent for

Matt. 28:20 TEACHING them to OBSERVE
       all things whatsoever I have commanded you:
       and, lo, I am with you alway,
       even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 says that until you Turn, are Converted or are BAPTIZED you cannot READ the text nor HEAR it if you ever attend a gathering where the command is to PREACH the WORD (regulative principle) by READING the Word in a once each week REST period where there are no COUNTERS IF SHEKALS (1 Cor 13)

Unless the person didn't understand what they were doing when Baptized no literate preacher would command them to be BAPTIZED AGAIN which would repudiate the promise that in baptism one REQUESTS A good conscience or A holy spirit.  Once you have obeyed in the WASHING (baptism) OF REGENERATION you are added to the Church of Christ AND:

Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
      which are written in heaven,
      and to God the Judge of all,
      and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Any person who believes that they have sinned are taught to confess that wrong to the one they have offended.

No one in the PRE POST MODERN or "progressive" church has not been taught as a baptized Simon who has offended. is taught;

Acts 8:22 REPENT therefore of this thy wickedness, and PRAY God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.

Baptism is EXCLUSIVELY following the prophecy, example and command of Jesus to be SANCTIFIED and able to function as their own Priest of God--thank you preachers very kindly.

I baptized by dearly departed eldest daughter because she let herself be SORCERIZED by the purpose driven high of church camp.

I doubt that anyone who has ever heard anything about a legalistic baptism fetish.

Legalism is trying to do an END RUN around Jesus simple PATTERN for enjoying FREE GRACE by being free from laded burdens and burden laders.  Legalism must be one of the most graceless raca terms.  Especially when used against people who are the most minimilists as schools of the Word meaning REST.

The literate Greek world defined legalism required for CRAFTSMEN jobs such as rhetoric, singing, playing, acting or anything requiring hard work to learn, practice, rehearse, perform and get judged for skill level.

I would be careful calling the example and command of Jesus legalism.






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I am still being WATCHED so this might be off limits!

Baptism is the Holy Spirit Prophesied way to be PURIFIED because the Animal Slaughter was not commanded but was imposed on those who had "fired" God and demanded a human king.    Jesus said that his baptism JUSTIFIED God after which He was owned as Gods Son.  God "sanctified Jesus and sent Him into the world."

Jesus said that Baptism SAVES because believeth or PISTIS includes "TO COMPLY."
Paul said that we obey the example of Jesus SO THAT we can serve God.
Hebrews is saying that the baptismS or washingS of the old priesthood could not give us A good conscience but Jesus CAN give us a good conscience.


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"Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
And this will we do, if God permit". (Hebrews 6:1-3)

Heb. 5:4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
Heb. 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest;
        but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

AS THE ANTITHESIS OF THE LEVITICAL PRIESTS:

Heb. 5:6 As he saith also in another place,
       Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb. 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh,
        when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears
        unto him that was able to save him from death,
        and was HEARD in that he feared;
Heb. 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

Heb. 5:9 And being MADE PERFECT,
        he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY him;
Heb. 5:10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb. 5:11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

Heb. 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, [MESSIAH]
         let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation
         of repentance from DEAD WORKS,  [The Law]
         and of faith toward God,
Heb. 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptismS, and of laying on of hands,
        and of resurrection of the dead,

We cannot stop speaking about the teachings of and about Christ

WASHINGS are

g909. baptismos, bap-tis-mos´; from 907; ablution (ceremonial or Christian): — baptism, washing.

The Figure or TYPE which we are to lay aside are:

Heb. 9:9 Which was a figure for the time then present,
        in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices,
        that could not make him that did the service PERFECT,
        as pertaining to the CONSCIENCE;
Heb. 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks,
       and divers washingsS, and carnal ordinances,
       IMPOSED OPON them until the time of reformation.
Heb. 9:11 BUT Christ BEING COME an high priest of GOOD things to come,
        by a GREATER and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;

CHRISTIAN ANTITHESIS TO DIVERS WASHINGS OR BAPTISMS

Heb. 9:13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean,
        SANCTIFIED to the PURIFYING of the FLESH:

The washingS were commanded and WITHOUT the FLESH being PURIFIED the penalty was death.

THEIR FLESH:

Sanctifying  h37.  hagiazo, hag-ee-ad´-zo; from 40; to make holy, i.e. (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (MENTALLY) to venerate: — hallow, be holy, sanctify.

It is not the purifying of the FLESH but the PURIFYING or making OUR spirit holy without which one cannot approach God.

Heb. 9:14 How much MORE shall the blood of Christ,
        who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God,
        PURGE your CONSCIENCE from dead works TO SERVE the living God?

The Gift in Acts 2:38  g40.   hagios, hag´-ee-os; from a‚goß hagos (an awful thing) (compare 53, 2282); sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated): — (most) holy (one, thing), saint.

1 Peter 3:21 BAPTISM DOTH ALSO SAVE US by a REQUEST for that good CONSCIENCE which the Jewish WASHINGS could not do.  The work of Jesus commands that we have the RIGHT to be sanctified and sent as He set the example even though without sin.

Ceremonial washing under Judaism or under christianity may just get you wet unless you believe that the ARCHE or beginning of the gospel is to baptize believers SO THAT THEN them teach them what Jesus commanded to be taught.


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I notice that I have been placed on the WATCHED list so I had better retire to my recliner and research.

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The Lost Sheep of Israel and Gentiles who are called or invited are:

1Pet. 2:11 Dearly beloved,
         I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims,
         abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;

Many people have to WORK at that

NO ONE CAN EVEN STUMBLE ONTO THE WAY THAT IS CALLED A SECT.

2Tim. 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life;
         that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a SOLDIER.
2Tim. 2:5 And if a man also strive for masteries,
         yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.

Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him:
        for he that cometh to God
        must believe that he is,
        and that he is a rewarder of them
        that DILIGENTLY SEEK HIM

Turning the REST or School of Christ into a WORSHIP PERFORMANCE has made most of us poor students of Christ.

Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate:
        for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up,
        and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without,
        and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us;
        and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luke 13:26 Then shall ye begin to say,
        We have eaten and drunk in thy presence,
        and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luke 13:27 But he shall say, I tell you,
        I know you not whence ye are;
        depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth,
        when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets,
        in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.

The WAY is the ROAD to walk on or a PATTERN.  A believer is a STUDENT just admitted to the School of Christ. No one is going to pass the course who is not a FAITHFUL SERVANT.

Matt. 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant:
        thou hast been faithful over a few things,
        I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

JESUS CAME TO REMOVE THE LADED BURDENS AND TO GIVE US REST SO THERE IS NOTHING REQUIRED BUT BE A FAITHFUL STUDENT FOR A SPIRITUAL LIFE

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Believing and repenting are thoughts, not works. The fruits of belief and repentance are good works. It is clear from the Bible that we are saved because of our faith, our thoughts, not because of what we do.

PAUL DENIES:

ONLY those who have OBEYED THE DIRECT OMMAND

Rom. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom
         ye YIELD yourselves servants to OBEY,
         his SERVANTS ye are to whom ye OBEY;
         whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom. 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye WERE the servants of sin,
         but ye have OBEYED from the heart
         that FORM of doctrine which was DELIVERED you.

The FORM is the Death, Burial, and Resurrection of Jesus:
The GIFT is free from those who believe that THEY have to OBEY the ALMIGHTY GOD.

g5179.  TUPOS, too´-pos; from 5180; a die (as struck), i.e. (by implication) a stamp or scar; by analogy, a shape, i.e. a statue, (figuratively) style or resemblance;
         specially, a sampler (“type”), i.e. a model (for imitation) or instance (for warning):

Rom. 6:18 Being THEN MADE FREE FROM SIN
         ye BECAME the servants of RIGHTEOUSNESS.

No one could be a servant of any KINGDOM and say "BUT, I don't have to obey." THAT is not the SIN but the IDENTIFYING MARK that Jesus was not SENT into a hostile world to rescue.

2 Corinthians 30 It is not possible to HEAR or READ the Word preached by being READ each week until you TURN to Christ: the word means CONVERTED which is parallel to BAPTISM so that people CANNOT misunderstand.

Rom. 6:19 I speak after the manner of men
        because of the infirmity of your flesh:
        for as ye have YIELDED your members servants
        to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity;
        even so NOW YIELD your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Rom. 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were FREE from righteousness.
Rom. 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed?
         for the end of those things is death.

Rom. 6:22 But now being made free from sin,
          and BECOME servants to God,
          ye have your fruit unto holiness,
           and the end everlasting life.
Rom. 6:23 For the WAGES of sin is death;
        but the GIFT of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

BAPTISM SAVES because that is the TUPOS or "pattern intended to be imitated" requesting A holy spirit or A good conscience to be ADDED to the kingdom of Christ.  Nothing any humanoid does has any effect OUTSIDE of the Church or the SCHOOL OF CHRIST.  Just try entering Harvard by refusing to take the entrance test.


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All saved persons have been made members of the Body of Christ by One divine baptism (this is baptism into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit). By that ONE BAPTISM, every member of the Body of Christ is identified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection. In light of the statement concerning the "ONE BAPTISM" in Ephesians 4:5 and the statement in I Corinthians 1:17 that "Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel", we affirm that water baptism has no place in God's spiritual program for the Body of Christ in this day of grace.

The baptism of WIND and FIRE is only for the Race of Vipers and not for Jesus, the Apostles or any other person not OF THE WORLD, kosmos or the ecumenical as the kingdom of Satan.

Matt. 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea,
        and all the region round about Jordan,
Matt. 3:6 And were baptized [in much WATER] of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

BUT as for the FIRE: Again, Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites: in Isaiah 29 and Ezekiel 33 hypocrites are hired preachers speaking their own words, singers or instrument players:

Matt. 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism,
        he said unto them, O generation of vipers,
        who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 
     Wrath is orge or orgy excitement of the mind: a laded burden
        is creating spiritual anxiety by religious rituals TO WHICH the Kingdom does not come.

Matt. 3:10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees:
         therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit
         is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Of the Viper Race:

Matt. 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:
        BUT he that cometh after me is mightier than I,
        whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:
        he shall baptize [bury or overwhelm] you with the Holy Ghost [wind], and with fire:

Those who tamper with the absolute connection between asking Jesus to be added to His Church after "sins have been washed away" are the Viper Race and people grasped that "vipers hate water."

The fire in verse 11 has the same meaning as verse 10 and and12.  In Acts 2 they were not OVERWHELMED or immersed with FIRE BUT:

    Acts 2:3 And there APPEARED unto them cloven tongues LIKE AS of fire, and it SAT upon each of them.

    The spirit that sat upon Jesus fluttered LIKE A DOVE

    The Viper or Crooked Race are OVERWHELMED with EVERLASTING FIRE.

Matt. 3:12 Whose fan [winnowing fork] is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor,
        and gather his wheat into the garner;
        but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

    He will garner or gather the wheat into a SYNAGOGUE: Gather is g4863. sunago, soon-ag´-o; from 4862 and 71; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene;

    Anything beyond a School of the Word becomes a CULT where you have been taken captive.

Matt. 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized,
        went up straightway out of the WATER: and, lo,
        the heavens were opened unto him,
        and he saw the Spirit of God descending LIKE A dove, and lighting upon him:

Again of the Apostles ONLY in the upper room:

    Acts 2:3 And there APPEARED unto them cloven tongues LIKE AS of fire, and it SAT upon each of them.

Jesus was given the PROMISE OF HOLY SPIRIT (no THE). He returned to the Father and returned to the upper room with the PROMISE or EVANGELISTIC ROLE as HOLY SPIRIT. HE poured out what you see and heare: the signs were wind (breath) and fire because when God pours out SPIRIT-----

Is. 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed [LAVE THE WHOLE BODY]
       away the filth of the daughters of Zion,
       and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof
       by the SPIRIT of judgment,
       and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING

Words in all languages TRANSLATED as SPIRIT Literally means ONLY WIND and only FIGURATIVELY of BREATH.  These word cannot and have never been used of a PERSON.

If you claim that The Holy Spirit (pure breath) of God is a God person then you INSULT "him" by calling "him" a THE

The First creation was DESTROYED BY WATER
The Creation by Jesus is RESERVED UNTO FIRE.

All believers are baptized into a spirit of ONENESS because Paul is rebuking people who wanted to be baptized into different people.  Again, spirit is not a PEOPLE but the mind or MENTAL DISPOSITION of that person.  I would ask people to get help: The spirit is almost always the spirit OF something.  Prepositions 101: The Spirit OF God is the Spirit or mental disposition OF God.  The Bible guru at Lipscomb says that GOD IS ECSTATIC meaning that the Spirit OF God is OUR OF HIS MIND.  GOD always has His Mind, Wisdom, Breath and Word WITH Him and that is why Jesus said MY WORDS ARE SPIRIT because they convey the MIND of God.

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John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

G1080.  gennao, ghen-nah´-o; from a variation of 1085; to procreate (properly, of the father, but by extension of the mother); figuratively, to regenerate: — bear, beget, be born, bring forth, conceive, be delivered of, gender, make, spring.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
       but according to his mercy HE saved us,
       BY the washing [baptism] of regeneration,
      and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

WASHING
g3067. loutro/n loutron, loo-tron´; from 3068; a bath, i.e. (figuratively), baptism: — washing.

REgeneration
G3824.  paliggenesia, pal-ing-ghen-es-ee´-ah; from 3825 and 1078; (spiritual) rebirth (the state or the act), i.e. (figuratively) spiritual renovation; specially, Messianic restoration: — regeneration.

REnewing
g342. ajnakai÷nwsiß anakainosis, an-ak-ah´-ee-no-sis; from 341; renovation: — renewing.

This is renewing OF

g2537. kainos, kahee-nos´; of uncertain affinity; new (especially in freshness; while 3501 is properly so with respect to age: — new.

Conversion RETURNS us to our ancient or original state.

WE receive the gift of A HOLY SPIRIT because OUR spirit needs to be REBORN.

God puts HIS SPIRIT into us when were are born the first time because Spirit or Mind is not flesh and blood

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There is no number of Advanced degrees which will let anyone of the now-defunct universities NOT ignore Jesus and the Prophets and say "We are saved by grace through faith." They cannot even ask: SAVED OR MADE SAFE FROM WHAT?

I Just posted and you just ignored that the Ephesians were already saved in Ephesians 1. And everyone ignored it. Isn't that of supernatural measure?

Acts 19:1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth,
          Paul having passed through the upper coasts
          came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
Acts 19:2 He said unto them,
         Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed?
         And they said unto him,
         We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Acts 19:3 And he said unto them,
        Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
Acts 19:4 Then said Paul,
        John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance,
      saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

Disciples who BELIEVE ON Jesus have or will be baptized:

Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them,
       the Holy Ghost came on them;
       and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
Acts 19:7 And all the men were about twelve.

When the Spirit or Breath of God comes upon you YOU WILL SPEAK: in this case they were ordained as PROPHETS meaning that the PREACHED THE GOSPEL with Gid's Spirit working with them AND the gospel was sent out into the whole province.

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The people in Ephesus had long ago become believers.  Ephesians 1 comes befor Ephesians 2 and Ephesians 1:1 defines FROM WHAT WE CONTINUE TO BE SAVE BY GRACE (TEACHES) THROUGH FAITH (WHICH OBEYS)

Eph. 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times
        he might gather together in one all things in Christ,
        both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

Eph. 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance,
        being predestinated [pre-goaled] according to the purpose
        of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Eph. 1:12 THAT we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.

    g4276.  proelpizo, pro-el-pid´-zo; from 4253 and 1679; to hope in advance of other confirmation: — first trust.
    g1679. elpizo, el-pid´-zo; from 1680; to expect or confide: — (have, thing) hope(-d) (for), trust.

Eph. 1:13 In whom ye also TRUSTED,
        AFTER that ye heard the WORD of truth,
        the gospel of your salvation:
        in whom also after that ye believed, [PISTEUO COMMIT, COMPLY+
        ye WERE SEALED
        with that holy Spirit of promise,

    4972.  sphragizo, sfrag-id´-zo; from 4973; to stamp (with a signet or private mark) for security or preservation (literally or figuratively); by implication, to keep secret, to attest: — (set a, set to) seal up, stop.

    PROMISE
    1860.   epaggelia, ep-ang-el-ee´-ah; from 1861; an announcement (for information, assent or pledge; especially a divine assurance of good): — message, promise

Eph. 1:14 Which is the EARNEST of our inheritance
        until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory

    728. a arrhabon, ar-hrab-ohn´; of Hebrew origin (H6162); a pledge, i.e. part of the purchase-money or property given in advance as security for the rest: — earnest.

PAUL IS ASSURED THAT THEY HAVE OBEYED AND BEEN GIVEN A holy Spirit which he defines.

Eph. 1:15 Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus,
        and love unto all the saints,
Eph. 1:16 Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
Eph. 1:17 That
       the God
       OF
       our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory,
       may GIVE unto you
       the SPIRIT OF wisdom and [spirit OF] revelation
       in the knowledge of him:

Spirit OF is the "Mental Disposition."

Now, why would anyone look to Ephesians 2:8 as the PATTERN for being saved, receive the remission of sins, been given a holy spirit, added to the church and OUR spirits made certain translated into a heavenly kingdom?

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Theology Forum / Re: Did all mankind sin in Adam?
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Apparently, many evade and ignore the post under Reply #151, page 5, regarding Hebrews 7:9-10, where the unborn Levi, him who was yet in the loins of his ancestor, was said to have paid tithes to Melchizedek through Abraham. This only shows that, the sense of the matter of the descendants as said to participate and share in the actions of their ancestors, as spoken of in Hebrews 7:9-10, is undeniable and true.

ABRAHAM WAS A GENTILE AND THE ONLY GENTILE GOD HONORED WAS EL ELYON

The Lord [yhwh] God [Elohim] is the ONLY elohim.  He made that clear when He told Moses "I am the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob."

Deut. 26:5 And thou shalt speak and say before the Lord thy God, A SYRIAN ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:

h761.Arammiy, ar-am-mee´; patrial from 758; an Aramite or Aramaean:—Syrian, Aramitess.

2. Though a descendant of Seth, Abraham was still literally a Babylonian Gentile when he received the promises in Genesis 12, 13 and 15 because the event of Genesis 14 PRECEDED Abraham's circumcision in Genesis 17!
 
Rom 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also.

THE LEVI PRIESTHOOD WAS A BAD BLIP ON THE SCREEN IMPOSED WHEN GOD ABANDONED THEM TO WORSHIP THE HOST OF HEAVEN (ACTS 7 ETC.) AND WASHED HIS HANDS OF THEM.

http://www.piney.com/First-Samuel-Eight.html

PAYING TITHES TO LEVI IS EXCLUDED. 

Gen. 49:5 Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.
Gen. 49:6 O my soul,
       come not thou into their secret;
       unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united:
       for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.

"Romans 4:8-14 is ignored by those who argue
        that, if Melchizedek was a pagan Gentile,
        then Jesus is being compared to a pagan in Hebrews 7.
        They miss the point that Abraham himself
        was yet uncircumcised when he met Melchizedek. Read Romans 4:8-14!
"

JERUSALEM is IDENTIFIED as SODOM.

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Rev. 11:8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Jer. 23:14 I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.

Levi PAID tithes to a GENTILE king-priest from money DERIVED from the LOOT of SODOM RECOVERED.

God abandoned the Jews to the Worship of the Host of Heaven.  Jerusalem was already operating as such a place where Solomon built God a HOUSE which God neither commanded nor would live in.  The Tabernacle proves that you cannot PIN God down to a place.

Tithes were ONLY for Jews in Canaan and was food only where God QUARANTINED the horrors behind high walls. Jesus is NOT a Levite Priest and He therefore said that "the sons of a king do not pay temple texes."

The Jacob-Cursed and God-abandoned Levites used loud instruments to MAKE THE LAMBS DUMB BEFORE THE SLAUGHTER.   The LEVI tribe is the only FOUNDATION for any kind of performance "worship" claiming to do something FOR GOD.

SETH was the first-born IN THE WORLD and Adam calls him MY SON.  Cain's descendants did not perish and they never paid tithes as far as we know other than being FORCED to give a small amount of FOOD ONLY grown on the farms given them FREE.



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Jesus said that He didn't pray for the WORLD and that God HIDES from the wise or sophists meaning speaking their own songs and sermons, instrumental performance or any one you will pay in the morning who is not able to speak a whole thought pattern or paragraph.  He will tell you that he is the mediator by virtue of being pastor person demanding a huge salary.

It is clear that the ANTI direct command people cannot absorb or take note of quoted texts and go digging up another. LEGALISTIC END RUNS around the prophecy and fulfilment that the Jewish washing could NOT give one A holy spirit or A good conscience TO SAY that Baptism Saves if you REQUEST a gift from Jesus ALREADY paid for and no one can WORK enough to resurrect their dead body.

Jesus also said that truth had been hidden in parables from the foundation of the world from religionists.

1Cor. 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men,  [rhetoric, singing, playing, acting]
         but in the power of God.
1Cor. 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect:

         A Holy Spirit is
         Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,  [Church of Christ]
               which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
               and to the spirits of just men made perfect

yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

    Acts 13:27 For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their RULERS,
            because they knew him not,
            nor yet the voices of the prophets
            which are read every sabbath day,
            they have fulfilled them in condemning him


1Cor. 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a MYSTERY, even the hidden wisdom,
         which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
1Cor. 2:8 Which none of the princes of this world knew:
         for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
1Cor. 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard,
         neither have entered into the heart of man,
        the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
1Cor. 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by HIS Spirit:
        for the Spirit [HIS mind] searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.
1Cor. 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man,
         save the spirit of man which is in him?
        even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Cor. 2:12 Now we have received,
         not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God;
         that we might know the things that are FREELY given to us of God. NOT what He HAS NOT given.
1Cor. 2:13 Which things also we speak,
         not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth,
         but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
         comparing spiritual things with spiritual.[figurative]
1Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God:
         for they are foolishness unto him:
         neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Jesus has already GIVEN but Paul in 2 Corinthians 3 says that the unconverted or UNBAPTIZED cannot READ the text nor HEAR it when the elders obey the PATTERN and PREACH the WORD by READING the WORD.

Based purely on Scripture I hear a lot of people trying to read GREAT TREASURES but have dislexia and CANNOT read the text.  We have seen it over and over and being a "conservative" doesn't help.

I hear the pounding on the ARK but God has SHUT the eyes of those who do not want to see

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SPEAKING OF ROMANS 3 WHERE PAUL POINTS TO THE PROPHETIC TYPE OF JESUSS' KINGDOM.

Jesus paid the price: He left a billion dollar check on your desk saying ENDORSE this Check and you will receive a billion dollars.

RB, says, Jesus you are just flat wrong: I cannot receive a billion dollars just by signing on the back.
Too bad that people refuse to JUSTIFY GOD or declare Him honorable by debunking His explicit command, example and many historic inferences that God IS HONORABLE.

Abraham is not said to have been SAVED because he was not LOST. Sin was in the world so that people could SIN their own sin and not blame ADAM. Abraham is said to have been a RIGHTEOUS man. Saved does not mean Justified.

When Paul SPEAKS you must look WHERE HE POINTS.

    Heb.11:8 By faith Abraham,
           when he was called to go out into a place
           which he should after receive for an inheritance,
           OBEYED; and he
           WENT out, not knowing whither he went.
    Heb.11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried,
          OFFERED up Isaac; and
          he that had received the promises
          OFFERED up his only begotten son,

    Ja. 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, WHEN he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
    Ja. 2:22 Seest thou how faith WROUGHT with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
    Ja.2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith,
            Abraham BELIEVED God,
            and it was imputed unto him for righteousness:
            and he was called the Friend of God.

Abraham is not said to have BELIEVED God until he had obeyed God: Believeth means to COMPLY.

    Gen 22:12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad,
           neither do thou any thing unto him:
          for NOW I KNOW that thou fearest God,
          seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
    Gen 22:16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord,
          for BECAUSE thou hast done this thing,
          and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son,
    Gen 22:17 THAT in blessing I will bless thee,
          and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven,
          and as the sand which is upon the sea shore;
          and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
    Gen 22:18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
          BECAUSE thou hast obeyed my voice.

God restated this to Isaac:

    Gen 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven,
          and will give unto thy seed all these countries;
          and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

    Gen 26:5 BECAUSE that Abraham
           OBEYED my voice,
           and KEPT my charge,
           my COMMANDMENTS,
           my STATUTES,
           and my LAWS.

    Gen 26:6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:

ISAAC obeyed God's commands as a CONDITION that you have been offered REGENERATION by the WASHING AWAY OF SINS which HE decreed passed the buck to you to determine whether you will JUSTIFY GOD or deny that He has the power to turn rocks into bread.

God through Jesus said that He will REGENERATE your spirit or give you A new spirit without which He will not translate your spirit into His heavenly Kingdom.  ALMOST ALL in the WORLD, according to Jesus, will REFUSE the election or Invitation and ask for a wedding garment.  If all of the people in the world have done you wrong that will not change a jot or tittle of Scripture.

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Poor old Alexander read Latin: Here is probably where he got the idea that BAPTISM saves BECAUSE God decided that BURYING IN WATER was a Graceful substitute for dying on a cross.

Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done,
        but according to his mercy he saved us,
        BY  the washing of regeneration,
        and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

g3067.  loutron, loo-tron´; from 3068; a bath, i.e. (figuratively), baptism: — washing.

g3068. lou/w louo, loo´-o; a primary verb; to bathe (the whole person;
            whereas 3538 means to wet a part only, and 4150 to wash, cleanse garments exclusively): — wash.

g3824.paliggenesia, pal-ing-ghen-es-ee´-ah; from 3825 and 1078;
       (spiritual) rebirth (the state or the act), i.e. (figuratively) spiritual renovation;
        pecially, Messianic restoration: — regeneration.

g342.   anakainosis, an-ak-ah´-ee-no-sis; from 341; renovation: — renewing.

Peter said that baptism was FOR the remission of SINS and the gift of A or our spirit
Peter said that BAPTISM SAVES as a request for A good conscience or A holy spirit.

"He has saved us," says the apostle Paul, "by the bath of regeneration and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, which he poured on us richly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; that, being justified by his favor [in the bath of regeneration] we might be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life."

    Thus, and not by works of righteousness, he has saved us.
    Consequently, being born of water and the renewing of the Holy Spirit are not works of merit or of righteousness, but only the means of enjoyment.

But this pouring out of the influences, this renewing of the Holy Spirit,

    is as necessary as the bath of regeneration to the salvation of the soul,
    and to the [234] enjoyment of the hope of heaven, of which the Apostle speaks.

In the kingdom into which we are born of water, the Holy Spirit is as the atmosphere in the kingdom of nature; we mean that the influences of the Holy Spirit are as necessary to the new life, as the atmosphere is to our animal life in the kingdom of nature.

    All that is done in us before regeneration, God our Father effects by the word, or the gospel as dictated and confirmed by his Holy Spirit.

    But after we are thus begotten and born by the Spirit of God - after our new birth -

    the Holy Spirit is shed on us richly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; of which the peace of mind, the love, the joy, and the hope of the regenerate is full proof;

        for these are among the fruits of that Holy Spirit of promise of which we speak. Thus commences


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