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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Arm the Syrian rebels?
« on: Wed Sep 17, 2014 - 22:35:29 »
It WILL come back to bite us. He will probably send in troops after the election.  However, as of now he is using more troops to fight ebola then he has to fight ISIS.

Apologetics Forum / Re: Question about a warning
« on: Sat Feb 16, 2013 - 15:13:38 »
Victor, I appreciate the fact that you are open to God calling you to Himself.  Keep listening my friend, keep listening.

Theology Forum / Re: “What The Bible Really Says About Homosexuality
« on: Fri Apr 16, 2010 - 08:21:39 »
1)  It is a sin.
2)  It can be forgiven by the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ because it was simply one of the iniquities God placed on his Son at the cross.

Theology Forum / Re: churches for The Homeless?
« on: Fri Apr 16, 2010 - 08:18:05 »
Bless you spurly for God's glory and thanks for sticking to the topic.

Your welcome.

Theology Forum / Re: churches for The Homeless?
« on: Wed Apr 14, 2010 - 11:09:42 »
Isaiah 58:7 says that the kind of fast God accepts is the one that leads us to share our bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into our house.  Are we doing that?  I have done that several times in my life and it has always been a blessing.

I want the preacher in any church Obama attends to have the courage Peter Cartwright had when Andrew Jackson showed up.  Here's the story:

Andrew Jackson was better known for his attendance at duels than at church, but on a particular Monday in October of 1818, he decided to visit a revival service in Nashville where the controversial Peter Cartwright was scheduled to speak. As it happened, the General entered as the preacher was reading his text, "For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?" (Mark 8:36) With all the seats already occupied, the famous Indian fighter and war hero was content to stand, gracefully leaning on the middle post. At the sight of his stately appearance, the host pastor, a certain "Brother Mac," became nervous in the extreme. Seated on the platform directly behind the pulpit, he tugged on Cartwright's jacket, whispering, "General Jackson has come in; General Jackson has come in." Cartwright was aghast at the pastor's double standard:

I felt a flash of indignation run all over me like an electric shock, and facing about to my congregation, and purposely speaking out audibly, I said, "Who is General Jackson? If he don't get his soul converted, God will damn him as quick as he would a Guinea negro." (2) The preacher tucked his head down, and squatted low, and would, no doubt, have been thankful for leave of absence. The congregation, General Jackson and all, smiled or laughed right out, all at the preacher's expense.

When the congregation was dismissed, my city-stationed preacher stepped up to me, and very sternly said to me: "You are the strangest man I ever saw, and General Jackson will chastise you for your insolence before you leave the city." "Very clear of it," said I, "for General Jackson, I have no doubt, will applaud my course; and if he should undertake to chastise me... there is two as can play that game."

Next morning, very early, my city preacher went down to the hotel to make an apology to General Jackson for my conduct in the pulpit the night before. Shortly after he had left I passed by the hotel, and I met the General on the pavement; and before I approached him by several steps he smiled, and reached out his hand and said: "Mr. Cartwright, you are a man after my own heart. I am very surprised at Mr. Mac, to think that I would be offended at you. No, sir; I told him that I highly approved of your independence; that a minister of Jesus Christ ought to love every body and fear no mortal man. I told Mr. Mac that if I had a few thousand such independent, fearless officers as you were, and a well drilled army, I could take Old England.

The government is doing what most Americans do, spending like they have much more money than they really do.  That's a big reason we are in this recession.  If Americans would start paying down their personal debts instead of running them up, maybe the government would stand up and start doing the same.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Stupak's deception
« on: Tue Mar 30, 2010 - 08:02:21 »
Video one year ago:


Planned all along to vote for the bill.

Thanks Phoebe.  And I don't believe the executive order signed by the President in order to buy Stupak's vote will stand up in court.  The laws of congress trump executive orders.  So our tax dollars WILL be used to fund abortions.

Theology Forum / Re: Will all unbelievers go to hell?
« on: Tue Mar 30, 2010 - 07:57:14 »
Will all unbelievers go to hell?  Yes.  See John 3:36 and 8:24 for starters.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Government Takes Over Health Care
« on: Tue Mar 30, 2010 - 07:55:37 »
It is not the job of the government to give people houses to live in, cars to drive, jobs, or health insurance.  But the current administration doesn't understand that, at all.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Christians and the Health Care Bill!
« on: Tue Mar 30, 2010 - 07:52:41 »
When snapping turtles latch on to something with their powerful jaws, the old tale says that they will not let go until it thunders,.... It seems some of you guys have outlasted those snapping turtles,.....easy.


Yes, Johnny, and a lot of people are going to hold on to this all the way to November.  This was a disastrous bill for our country, and now they are considering granting amnesty to illegals which will make this bill even more disastrous.  Oh yeah, it will also endear themselves to 11 million plus new voters so that they can be entrenched in power.

May we ever be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

Why is this happening?  Because in the last days men will be "lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God".  They will "hold to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power" to give them victory over sin and death both in this life and in the life to come.

Why is this happening?  Because men "exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four footed animals and crawling creatures.  Therefore God has given them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them.  For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever.  Amen.  For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.  And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to those things which are not proper."

Why is all this happening?  Because we in America have turned away from God.  The psalm says "Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord".  Unfortunately, for most in America, the Lord is not God and he will not be able to bless us as a nation until that turns around.

It doesn't surprise me that children with pre-existing conditions aren't covered and the democrats are saying they are covered.  Why?  Because THEY DIDN'T EVEN READ THE BILL!

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Obama snubs one of our closest allies
« on: Sat Mar 27, 2010 - 11:22:06 »
This is unbelievable.  Let's destroy the foundations our country was built on and move us toward socialism.  And let's turn our backs on our friends.  These clowns have to be voted out soon.

Every American will take a hit from this bill, and I am not just referring to tax hikes on supposedly "rich" Americans.  When business are hit with new taxes they pass those costs on in increased prices, pay cuts, lay offs and smaller raises.  Many of these businesses will seriously consider moving to another country to avoid these tax increases.

In addition guess what health insurance providers and medical equipment manufacturers will do with all the new taxes imposed on them in this bill?  The health insurance companies will pass it on in higher premiums.  The medical equipment companies will raise their costs which will also drive up the cost of health insurance.  The result?  It will be harder to purchase private insurance and more people will be forced on programs like medicaid.  This bill is a losing proposition from the get go.  Why do the Democrats like it?  They think it will earn them more votes at the polls.  That's it.  It's all about politics.  But if we keep beating the drum they will lose and lose big in November.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Christians and the Health Care Bill!
« on: Sat Mar 27, 2010 - 11:15:29 »
By the way, as I understand it, part of the bill was that those who break the laws of our country and enter illegally would not benefit from this bill.  So now what does the Obama administration want to do?  Grant amnesty to illegal aliens which would make them legal and able to fully benefit from the health care bill, further bankrupting our nation.

Obama wants us to be a socialist nation.  He doesn't like capitalism.  He doesn't like freedom.  I can't wait to vote against him in 2012.  Am I mad.  Heck yes I'm angry.  The foundations of our nation are being destroyed and some Americans don't even feel the ground moving under their feet.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Did you know...?
« on: Sat Mar 27, 2010 - 11:10:14 »
I will be opting out, thank you very much.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Christians and the Health Care Bill!
« on: Sat Mar 27, 2010 - 11:09:30 »
I haven't posted here much lately either, but this health care bill is just wrong for America.  It will end up hurting the very people you talked about - the poor and less fortunate.  You see, because of this bill there will be increased taxes at both the state and federal level.  Many of those taxes will be on businesses.  What will those businesses do with those tax hikes?  Pass them on to the consumers.  They will do this through price increases (which we have seen a lot of in the last couple of years already) and less jobs (or pay cuts or fewer raises).  So many of the people this bill purports to help will either lose their job, or be paid less as prices go up.  In addition, this tax hike will cause some companies who have been on the brink to move their jobs overseas, thus adding to our unemployment problem in the states.

It is a bad bill.  Are there some good things in it?  Yes.  But overall it is a bad bill and the people in America knew that.  Unfortunately the democrats in congress didn't.  We need to clean house in November.

I have seriously considered following the dietary guidelines laid out in the O.T., not for religous reasons but for health reasons.  I am just crazy enough to believe that if God told them not to eat something, He probably has a good reason, and I shouldn't eat it.

It's the same with the Sabbath principle.  I seriously need to implement that in my life.

Our "representatives" in Washington D.C. will pass the health care despite the fact that it is overwhelmingly opposed showing that our "representatives" do not represent us at all. 

And the statement that this bill will reduce the deficit is laughable.  Most Americans can see through their scheme of collecting ten years of income and only offsetting with that with 6 years of expenses.  If there were ten years of expenses (like there will be soon) this bill would not be anywhere close to deficit neutral.

The sad part is that it will be almost impossible to reverse this major step toward socialism.


I wouldn't be so angry if God actually cared and gave me someone to love and center my life around. I mean, who the heck WANTS to be lonely?

I know Mike isn't here anymore but this one statement he made is the problem with many single people.  They are looking for another person to center their life around instead of centering it around God and His Christ.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: How valuable are the elderly?
« on: Thu Oct 22, 2009 - 10:14:20 »
Not only do they not like the elderly, they don't like me either.  I currently have a high deductible policy with an HSA.  They want to make my type of insurance illegal.  I guess they don't like it when people pay for a lot of their own medical care.

General Discussion Forum / Re: What's your tattoo story?
« on: Thu Oct 22, 2009 - 10:09:01 »
My tattoo story is that I don't have one, I never will have one, but I don't look down on those who do.


If Obama loses his Presidency for not being qualified according to the Constitution, does that mean everything he signed into law is null and void?

There's another way of looking at it.

They didn't like George W. Bush and his conservative views.

So they gave the Nobel Prize to the man he beat in 2000.

They still don't like George W. Bush and conservatives.

So they give it to George W. Bush's replacement after less than 8 months in office.

Norwegian liberals are no friends of Christians.

Hummm...  Could be.

Theology Forum / Re: How do I gain favor from God?
« on: Fri Oct 09, 2009 - 09:04:47 »
By grace.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Are you SERIOUS??????????
« on: Fri Oct 09, 2009 - 09:02:50 »
This is absolutely absurd.  But when I heard it I couldn't help but remember what Paul wrote in 1 Thessalonians 5:3:

"While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child and they will not escape."

General Discussion Forum / Re: WILL THERE BE A RAPTURE?
« on: Sat Jun 06, 2009 - 17:15:50 »
Will there be a rapture?  Yes.

Will the rapture be a pre-trib rapture?  After much study of scripture, I seriously doubt it.

General Discussion Forum / Re: Will I go to hell?
« on: Sat Jun 06, 2009 - 16:40:48 »
Ok, I live on Miami beach. I wear bikinis. Sometimes my cleavage shows, it's HOT here! Is it a sin to dress appropriately for the weather? I dress appropriately to church etc.

If you do not completely trust in Christ to save you and allow him to fill you with the Spirit who is the guarantee of our salvation you will go to Hell.  That's about the best I can do since I don't know you personally.

General Discussion Forum / Re: are you a born again christian ?
« on: Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 21:37:45 »
If one is not born again (or born from above) he is not a Christian.

I'd Rather Have Jesus:


Christian Politics Forum / Re: Jumping on the grump bandwagon
« on: Tue Jun 02, 2009 - 14:49:47 »
I don't see it as simply a terrorist attack.  It is more than that.  This was an another act of war by Islamic jihadists against the United States.  The guy probably doesn't care if he gets the electric chair.  Instead he sees what he did as doing his part in the war against the United States.

I believe abortion is an abomination in the eyes of God, but I was saddened when I heard about Dr. Tiller's murder in Wichita while attending a church last Sunday morning.  As Christians God has given us one weapon to use in the battle against the evil one and its not a gun, its a cross.  We are to lift up the cross of Jesus Christ so that all men will be drawn to him.  Then we are to take up our cross and be willing to lay down our own life to show the world what its like when people are living lives sold out to Jesus Christ.

Scott Roeder's actions will leave another black mark on the non-believers view of God and of those who follow Him.  I pray that the Holy Spirit will completely fill up the church of Jesus Christ so that we live the lives we are called to live and I pray that we, like Jesus, will love our enemies with a cross.

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