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Theology Forum / Re: Catholicism and Paganism?
« Last post by Johnb on Today at 19:39:08 »
Christmas, Christmas trees, Easter, bunny eggs, egg hunt, Halloween, trick or treat just for starters. Not to even mention that the whole church building 501c3 and legal board, full time paid preachers and staff are all inventions of man along with the over under relationship between regular Christians and the "leadership" and in many cases one man rule.  All of our systems have some major flaws but some how it is more fun to talk about the short comings of the oldest organized Christian church.  PS I think you know but for those who don't I am not a member of the Catholic church.       
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Theology Forum / Re: Catholicism and Paganism?
« Last post by e.r.m. on Today at 18:00:15 »
Fair is fair. I'm open to examples.
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Theology Forum / Re: Catholicism and Paganism?
« Last post by Johnb on Today at 17:38:39 »
Nothing warms the heart of a protestant like a good old Catholic bashing thread,  What was that about getting the beam out of your own eye before looking at the speck n your brothers eye.  Almost every denomination has adapted some pagan practices into their particular brand of Christianity. 
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Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: The Two Great Errors
« Last post by Gerhard Ebersöhn on Today at 14:23:55 »
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The earthquake took place "In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week". You take this to mean near the end of the Sabbath, as evening approached and it was getting dark. I and most take it to mean that after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, which would make it Sunday morning. 

I do NOT 'take this' --"In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week"--, 'to mean near the end of the Sabbath, as evening approached and it was getting dark.'
I take it for just what it says, "In the end(ing 3 hours before sunset) of (or "on") the Sabbath, Sabbath's, as it began to dawn in the mid-inclining / declining (towards the west, 3 p.m.) DAY-LIGHT-SUN-SHINING-DOWN-OVER-UPON approaching / toward / nearing the First Day of the week"! Not what you LIE I say! It was not 'getting dark' after sunset (like in John 20:1,2); it was becoming "towards / before vespers / late afternoon" 3 hours before sunset.

For you, yes, you must take it to mean 'after' the Sabbath, 'Sunday morning', because you know nothing about the Greek words or word-forms or history of meaning and only believe the antichrist's changing of God's Laws and Times and Mrs. E.G. White in complete agreement with him. Also because you know nothing and understand nothing about all the Scriptures that make abundantly clear that Christ would, and did, resurrect "ON the Seventh Day God FINISHED ALL HIS WORKS" IN CHRIST THROUGH RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD, AND SO, "RESTED from all his works He had made and done and finished and blessed and hallowed."

You are worse off than the Sundaydarians who illegitimately TAKE ADVANTAGE of the Power of Christ's Resurrection for their Sunday worship, which Truth and Power of Christ's Resurrection you, SDA, despise belittle and reject and scorn as GOD'S REASON FOR BEING of his Holy Sabbath Rest Day. GO ON! But know, God will confront YOU in the day of judgement about this. 

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Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: The Two Great Errors
« Last post by Gerhard Ebersöhn on Today at 13:02:14 »
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Re: The Two Great Errors
« Reply #82 on: Today at 05:45:18 »
Quote from: Gerhard Ebersöhn on Today at 03:17:44
Amo:
All those Scriptures bearing upon the DAY, the TIME of day, the day of the WEEK, and the DATES of either the day Jesus was crucified and KILLED, was BURIED, and, ROSE up from the dead again.

Then there is no hope of discovering the truth is there? Do you have any proof of such? Why do you think God allowed for such? If He did, He must not have considered the subject important enough to merit preserving the truth regarding the same.

Note: It is not Amo who wrote: 'All those...' etcetera; it was GE answering Amo, who said, 'All those...' etcetera. And it was Amo who in return replied to GE, who wrote, 'Then there is no hope...' etcetera.

Now then...

Amo: 'Then there is no hope of discovering the truth is there?'

GE:
If not for God's Providence, true! No one might have 'discover(ed) the truth'. But now God saw to it that the Truth did get discovered! Look at yourself! What must be happening with you "Today that you hear His Voice" speaking to you "all things concerning the Christ, HOW that He HAD TO, Suffer these things ... and the third day RISE!"

Therefore, to quote Amo: 'Why do (I) think God allowed for such?' as that no one might have discovered the truth with regard to Jesus' Resurrection "on the Sabbath"? Well, God gave assurance his Word shall not return to Him empty and many more such promises of his Divine Omnipotence, Omniscience and PROVIDENCE! It's an eternal impossibility God's Truth will not be discovered!

Concluded: God NEVER would allow that his "Written" Truth would stay covered up and hidden, locked away in the robbers' den the church of antichrist. He never did or would, having sworn that no tittle or iota of his Written Word would pass away or be dissolved like human flesh and thought would in the battery acid of satanic lying. So important considered God the subject of Christ raised from the dead on the Sabbath Day, that He "by the Power of his Resurrection" from the grave and death upon it, preserved "the Seventh Day Sabbath Rest Day of the LORD GOD", as and for "the Lord's Day"!

How ironic the Sabbathtarians are those MOST OPPOSED TO THIS TRUTH!


 
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"Early bacteria" evolving to amoebas, a frog changing to a prince, the dead wood of a marionette changing to a boy are childish fantasies from ancient vitalism superstitions and fairy tales, not science.
This is precisely the kind of abject stupidity with which you argue.  It destroys your position.  It is the worst kind of a strawman, namely a really stupid strawman. Why?  Because it lays out clearly what you know and understand about the subject, namely, nothing  --  as the Barbarian has pointed out so many times already.
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Theology Forum / Re: John 3 revisited Our Spiritual Births
« Last post by 4WD on Today at 12:40:16 »
I think your anti-music and your anti-Holy Spirit come out of the same aggregation of seriously misunderstood Scripture.
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Very nice for the United States of America, you do realize there are 194 more countries in this world right? The fact that secular scientists in China, Brazil, and the US come to the same scientific conclusion as evolutionary creationist scientists everywhere is very telling of the facts, and the truth. 
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Theology Forum / Re: baptism question?
« Last post by e.r.m. on Today at 12:25:06 »
To everyone, a Happy Thanksgiving!
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Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: The Two Great Errors
« Last post by Gerhard Ebersöhn on Today at 12:16:30 »
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Mk 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. 2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

If Jesus rose on the Sabbath, apparently no one knew about it. 

That's right, nobody knew about it; also not those who buried Him. Nobody EXPECTED He would rise again; no one BELIEVED He would; no one further (seemed) to bother... until "Mary Magdalene on the First Day of the week while being early-of-dark still (i.e., dusk), comes to the tomb, sees the stone cast aside from the tomb and--- RUNS BACK...!"

But "Mk 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. 2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun", had nothing to do with that!
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