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General Discussion Forum / Re: Allah the Moon god of Arabia.
« Last post by RB on Today at 05:03:26 »
Agreed
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General Discussion Forum / Allah the Moon god of Arabia.
« Last post by KiwiChristian on Today at 04:18:42 »
Allah the Moon god of Arabia. Why is the moon the symbol of Islam?

Bible Reading: Deuteronomy 4:15-19.

www.youtube.com Allah - The Pagan Moon God (rednck13) Where did the Moon god Allah come from? Islam the false religion (franz karl)


ISLAM IS BAAL WORSHIP * Islam is Antichrist * They reject Jesus is the son of God (MrTrott2hot)

Introduction: The Quran (29:46) commands Muslims to tell Christians “say (to them): We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (ie. Allah), and to Him we have submitted.” This is an attempt to convert Christians to Islam.

Question: Is Allah, the god of Islam, the same as Jehovah, the God of Abraham and the Bible prophets?

Question: Why is Allah never defined in the Quran? Why did Mohammad assume that the pagan Arabs already knew who Allah was? If Allah was a pre-Islamic idol in the Kaba, then we reject Islam as pagan.

Question: Why did the pagan Arabs never accuse Mohammad of preaching a different Allah than the one they already worshipped? This was Allah the moon god according to archaeological evidence.

1. Nabonidus (555-539BC), the last king of Babylon, built Tayma in Arabia as a centre of moon worship.

2. The moon-god’s name “Sin” is part of the Arabic word ‘Sinai’ & the ‘wilderness of Sin’ (Ex.16:1;17:1)

3. G. Caton Thompson (1944) uncovered a moon-god temple in Hureidha, South Arabia, with the moon god idol itself, 21 inscriptions of “Sin” & crescent moon symbols. ‘Tombs & Moon Temple of Hureidha’.

4. According to many inscriptions, while the name of the moon-god was “Sin”, his title was “Al-Ilah” (the god or the chief god among the gods). As Carlton S. Coon points out “The god Il or Ilah was originally a phase of the moon-god.” (C.S.Coon, Southern Arabia, Smithsonian, 1944, p.398,399). The moon-god was called “al-ilah” (the god), which was shortened to Allah in pre-Islamic times.

5. Pagan Arabs named their children after the idol “Allah”. Moh father & cousin were called ‘Abd-Allah’. His uncle was called Obied-Allah. Mohammad was raised in the moon-god religion of Allah. Pagan Arabs believed Allah was the greatest of all gods. Mohammad added that Allah was the only god. He did not take away the Allah that they already worshipped. He only took away Allah’s 3 daughters and the other idols in the Kabah. Mohammad told the pagan Arabs that he still believed in their moon-god Allah. He told Jews & Christians that Allah was their god also. Jews and Christians rejected his false god Allah.

6. Al-Kindi, an early Christian debater of Muslims, stated that Islam and Allah did not come from the Bible, but from the pagan Sabeans. They did not worship Jehovah, the God of the Bible, but the moon-god Allah and his daughters al-Uzza, al-Lat and Manat. (The Early Christian-Muslim debates, N.A.Newman, p.357,413,426). Newman concludes, “Islam …sprung up from idolatry.” (p 719).

7. Caesar Farah, Islamic scholar, concludes, “There is no reason to accept the idea that Allah passed to the Muslims from the Christians and the Jews.” (C Farah, Islam: Beliefs and Observations, 1987, p.28). Question: Where is Allah in the Bible? Nowhere! Where is Allah in pre-Islamic Arabia? Everywhere. What authority do pagan pre-Islamic Arabs have to tell us about the God of the Bible? None!

8. Why is the crescent moon the symbol of Islam? Why is a crescent moon on top of Sunni mosques, minarets and on Islamic flags? Why does Ramadan begin and end with the appearance of the crescent moon? Because Islam originates from pre-Islamic worship of Allah the moon-god.

9. Why do Muslims see no problem with borrowing their god from pagan idol worshippers? Bias!

10. Why did the Quran discuss Allah’s three daughters, each being idols in the Kaba? Allah is pagan. “Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-Uzza (2 idols of the pagan Arabs) and Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs)?” (Q 53:19,20). Allah the moon god married the sun goddess, who had 3 daughters.
Al-Uzza was one of the three chief goddesses of Arabian religion in pre-Islamic times and was worshiped as one of the daughters of Allah by the pre-Islamic Arabs along with Al-lat and Manat. The temple dedicated to al-Uzza and the statue itself was destroyed by Khalid ibn al Walid in Nakhla.

11. The Quraysh would walk around the Ka‘bah and say, “By al-Lat and al-Uzza, And al-Manat, the third idol besides. Verily they are al-gharaniq (most exalted females) Whose intercession is to be sought.” Their shrines were found near Mecca: Al-Lat at Taif, al-Uzza at Nakhlah and al-Manat near Qudayd.

12. Many rituals performed by Muslims today existed in pagan worship in Arabia before Islam. The yearly pagan pilgrimage to the Kabah included the Ramadan fast, running around the Kabah seven times, kissing the black stone, shaving the head, animal sacrifices, running up and down two hills, throwing stones at the devil, praying five times a day toward Mecca, giving alms, Friday prayers (10). 13. All over the ancient world, the crescent moon is found on seals, steles, pottery, clay tablets, amulets, cylinders, weights,earrings, necklaces,wall murals. In Ur, the Stela of Nammu has a moon as the top god.
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Questions for Post-Tribulationists.
« Last post by RB on Today at 04:16:11 »
I wont be debating or discussing Any of these topics, i present them information/seeds.
Now, if a brother who is still considering these things desires for someone to answer these, then I will for them.
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Questions for Post-Tribulationists.
« Last post by RB on Today at 04:07:02 »
I wont be debating or discussing Any of these topics, i present them information/seeds.
If you refuse to debate what you have posted, then you do not deserve an answer.
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Question 2: Show me the church mentioned in one OT or NT passage discussing the tribulation?
SO MANY, care to disprove my points if given? You are a cut and paste guy, those with truth expound the scriptures of truth and they are armed with a two-edged sword.
Quote from: Johnb
I have never had anyone come to me crying and ask about the tribulation, 1000year reign or any other of the hundreds of questions we fight over so I just don't care what one believes in these disputable matters.
Johnb, with respect to you and your love for God~that's why many, has these problems because the love of the truth is is not in them. We are Christians and we are exhorted by the apostles to earnestly contend for the truth, if we believe and love the truth as it has been revealed to us...it IS our calling.
Quote from: Jude
Jude 1-4~Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Brother, you have taken the easier route, for it is much harder to contend than to
Quote from: My tenderhearted brother Johnb
Have had the hungry come and ask about food or the homeless about where to find shelter and Christians on how to find forgiveness or fix a broken marriage or ask for help with paying a bill or how to beat their addiction
Johnb, these things are good and proper things to do, and I might add.... much easier to my flesh than contending with men being used of Satan to corrupt God's testimony. I do these things as often as God sends them my ways, which is often.....almost daily.
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Really? You dont see the point in learning about these wonderful people?

The point is, look at what these people did for God. Compare that to what YOU ( "YOU" meaning in in general, not you personally ) are or are not doing for God.

ie: to encourage Christians to get on fire for God.

I am surprised you are a mod and dont see or get this.
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Thank you.

But, will you not address any of the verses?
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I have had non Christians come to me broken and ask about how to get right with God. Have had the hungry come and ask about food or the homeless about where to find shelter and Christians on how to find forgiveness or fix a broken marriage or ask for help with paying a bill or how to beat their addiction.  I have never had anyone come to me crying and ask about the tribulation, 1000year reign or any other of the hundreds of questions we fight over so I just don't care what one believes in these disputable matters.

Why post in the first place here, then?

Also, be careful with that pride.
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End Times Forum / Re: Has Rev 8:8 Come to Pass?
« Last post by n2thelight on Today at 02:45:23 »
All I can say is,we for sure, are in the end times.
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Theology Forum / Re: Fear vs Love
« Last post by Johan on Today at 02:35:44 »
Would you agree with the next statement

Al forums on the Internet are ruled by fear?
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I have no problem with the full functioning of the gifts....  I believe God still does miracles in this current world..
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