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Preterist Forum / Re: Where is our hope if Christ has returned?
« Last post by lea on Yesterday at 22:31:54 »
Then why are you here? We will not change.Are you bored being with those who agree
with you? Yes,that must be it

Why are you here, all day long too?  Are you bored?  Sitting all day at the PC is unhealthy.

Do you get any physical exercise?
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Preterist Forum / Re: Continuing on the millennium fallacy
« Last post by lea on Yesterday at 22:27:05 »
Rella,
I do believe the Sodom and Gomorrah crowd really never went away, but hid in the closet for thousands of years.

Rev.22:
12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the [f]Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”

14 Blessed are those who [g]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. 15 [h]But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.

16 “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the Bright and Morning Star.”

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.


They were around even after Satan was destroyed.
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I so agree.  It's a frightful time in the USA.  I am praying for divine intervention.
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Preterist Forum / Re: Continuing on the millennium fallacy
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 19:06:46 »
R, I don't have any interest in the "Baptism" subject.

It's not necessary for salvation but I think it is the mature thing to do after one is saved.

That is all I wanted to know. Thank you

Now, I assume you feel one must have a faith in Jesus to be saved? Is that correct?

Can you calmly explain ,since you believe that Satan is now gone and done away with from us, why things are getting so depraved and worse practically by the day.

By that I mean... I see things as bad, no worse,then they were in Sodom and Gomorrah's day. And by worst I am including the those that change the gender they were born as,that has to spit in God's face. Gay marriages,especially those in
churches. Studying the goddess Sophia... (One mainline Protestant church)..
Pedophiles, Child and human trafficking, and all the abominations you can imagine that are happening every day somewhere....

Once upon a time Satan was the cause of most of this. If he is gone then why are they getting worse and worse with every passing year,and no end will be in sight.

Drug abuses, witchcraft, and false religions. Abortions,and the new killing of a born baby after the doc talks to the mother to see what she wants.

Do you have any idea, because if it is not Satan, then God is permitting it to happen and I want to understand why.
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Preterist Forum / Re: Where is our hope if Christ has returned?
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 19:04:51 »



So many Preterists there and other sites! 

Then why are you here? We will not change.Are you bored being with those who agree
with you? Yes,that must be it
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Theology Forum / Re: Symbolic Jargon vs. The Literal
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 18:28:47 »
Rella, it's kind of hard to see where you're coming down in this debate.  I do appreciate you sourcing your statements with links, though.
The authors of Genesis didn't calculate any time frame for the creation.  It's purely a modern exercise in logic to try to extrapolate what-is-written into dates.

By the way, that exercise starts with the assumption that Adam and everyone else listed in Genesis down the line were all literal individuals.  That was the original topic of debate, so if we're using this to support it, we're committing the logical fallacy known as petitio principii.
Yeah, I played telephone as a kid.  It didn't work out too well for the original message.
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Buff had said:

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Jarrod:

    "There is no such thing as history before the invention of writing.  For that matter, there are no histories up until the point in time where writing histories became a thing, which is quite a bit later than one might think."

    History pertains to the past. History happens whether it is in print or in reality. History is reality that relates to past happenings. If no one had ever written anything about the past, the past would still have happened—history, in other words.

    History can be, and has been, propagated by word-of-mouth. And so it was before one word was printed. Word-of-mouth is un-printed history.

Buff

I was responding to this....

  "There is no such thing as history before the invention of writing.  For that matter, there are no histories up until the point in time where writing histories became a thing, which is quite a bit later than one might think."

If creation happened before the written word, then it was recorded by writing,long after it took place. Since it would have been by word of mouth, I can only imagine the exaggerations and errors.

Be it Moses or another author, they were putting to parchment what someone told them.

We are told that all books within the four corners of the bible,old and new testament,are there by divine inspiration.

Would that have been by the teller to the author, or did the author apply what they thought were proper corrections?

We cannot know.

But for certain life was happening before the written word .Call it history, prehistoric,
or what ever term you want to put on it.... man came before the quill... Of that I am certain.

Yes, I agree the authors did not create a time frame for Genesis, but we can count backward to Adam and arrive at an acceptable number of years.

Personally I believe that everything was older than Adam,by a good bit.

This is not the place for that discussion... But all we do know of as fact... if it is fact... is what we have been told of Adam and forward.
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Theology Forum / Re: Step Aside, I'm Coming Out!
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 18:06:31 »
+1  ::thumbup:: ::thumbup::
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General Discussion Forum / Cold Water
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 17:58:36 »
I am not a camper. I like my creature comforts of a warm bed, room service when available and indoor plumbing. And above all Hot Water.

They came yesterday at 9 AM to remove the hot water tank because the the men were coming today to do the inside french drains to tie into the fireplace french drain because of the water that is coming into the fireplace from under the center of the house.

Coldwater.

Until Monday at the soonest.

I cannot stand cold water. Not to brush my teeth, certainly not to shower,orwash my face.

It is cruel and unusual punishment. ::frustrated::

How do you campers do it?
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Creation scientists
« Last post by Alan on Yesterday at 17:50:04 »
.....your views can never actually be wrong, even when they are admitted to have been wrong. Such a convenient type of science you have. Please do expound.


Again, please tell us when they have been admitted to being wrong.
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End Times Forum / Re: Revelation's symbolic language
« Last post by lea on Yesterday at 17:44:45 »
 Prove it!

 I haven't literally seen any devils around!  Show me one  ::playingguitar:: 
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