Quote from: Cobalt1959 on Today at 03:28:56
If you are saying that homosexuality is determined before the child is born, you have a huge problem, and you should probably drop the premise that you are Christian. If this is so, then God creates the sin He says he abhors. And you state this quite plainly above. Homosexuality is quite clearly a choice.
That makes the faulty assumption that at birth we are completely free from the sins and transgressions of our forebearers. The Bible has a name for that: iniquity. Those sins have an effect on how we develop, think and act. It is a predisposition to certain sins.
So you are saying that the sins of the fathers ARE visited upon the 3rd and 4th generations?
And perhaps it was the lust of another woman that made a child gay so that child would never be able to lust for the opposite sex?
You are saying that God punishes someone before they are born?
Certainly he knew Jeremiah before he was formed in the womb. (Jer 1:5 )
He also knew us..... Psalm 139:16 ...Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
So, based on how the folks sinned, then he made his selection to fulfill Numbers 14:18
“The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.”
It is certain that no all gays are born that way. Anne Heche would be one. She spent years with Ellen only to dump her and marry a man.... Hers was by choice.
You have to study the person to gain insight on how far back this sickness goes. Speech and mannerisms must be observed.