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The "police problem" is very different from a painter problem or a plumber problem. Neither the painter nor the plumber can legally force you, at the point of a gun, to do anything. That power is the prerogative of the police. And because of that there does need to be special attention given to improper exercise of that power.Police officer fired after threatening Black Army officer during traffic stop
So you are saying that the sins of the fathers ARE visited upon the 3rd and 4th generations?Exodus 20:5
You are saying that God punishes someone before they are born?No. Unless you call being born into a fallen world with dysfunctional parents punishment.
It is certain that not all gays are born that way. Anne Heche would be one. She spent years with Ellen only to dump her and marry a man.... Hers was by choice.Like I said, issues like this are very complex and each case must be looked at individually.
You have to study the person to gain insight on how far back this sickness goes. Speech and mannerisms must be observed.
QuoteQuote from: Cobalt1959 on Today at 03:28:56
If you are saying that homosexuality is determined before the child is born, you have a huge problem, and you should probably drop the premise that you are Christian. If this is so, then God creates the sin He says he abhors. And you state this quite plainly above. Homosexuality is quite clearly a choice.
That makes the faulty assumption that at birth we are completely free from the sins and transgressions of our forebearers. The Bible has a name for that: iniquity. Those sins have an effect on how we develop, think and act. It is a predisposition to certain sins.
If you are saying that homosexuality is determined before the child is born, you have a huge problem, and you should probably drop the premise that you are Christian. If this is so, then God creates the sin He says he abhors. And you state this quite plainly above. Homosexuality is quite clearly a choice.That makes the faulty assumption that at birth we are completely free from the sins and transgressions of our forebearers. The Bible has a name for that: iniquity. Those sins have an effect on how we develop, think and act. It is a predisposition to certain sins.
Are you saying a person has no choice in who they have sex with?There is always a choice in action.
The inclination towards homosexual behavior is shaped primarily by upbringing, society and environment, just like every other psychological disorder.Again, you are discounting other factors. I have 2 grandchildren (adoptive) whose mother chose to do drugs during the pregnancy. Both of them have both developmental and psychological disorders from drugs. Those issues have nothing to do with "upbringing, society and environment."
That's a nice story but so many of them are heartbreaking, little kids suffering incurable diseases and such.
Well, I do actually have two more questions~the second question is....Who are the children of Abraham?Natural children are by blood or formal conversion to Judaism.
The third question: Are they by blood, or by God's promises?Yes. It is not an "either or" but more of a "both and."