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R, I don't have any interest in the "Baptism" subject.

It's not necessary for salvation but I think it is the mature thing to do after one is saved.

Rella, it's kind of hard to see where you're coming down in this debate.  I do appreciate you sourcing your statements with links, though.
The authors of Genesis didn't calculate any time frame for the creation.  It's purely a modern exercise in logic to try to extrapolate what-is-written into dates.

By the way, that exercise starts with the assumption that Adam and everyone else listed in Genesis down the line were all literal individuals.  That was the original topic of debate, so if we're using this to support it, we're committing the logical fallacy known as petitio principii.
Yeah, I played telephone as a kid.  It didn't work out too well for the original message.

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Buff had said:

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Jarrod:

    "There is no such thing as history before the invention of writing.  For that matter, there are no histories up until the point in time where writing histories became a thing, which is quite a bit later than one might think."

    History pertains to the past. History happens whether it is in print or in reality. History is reality that relates to past happenings. If no one had ever written anything about the past, the past would still have happened—history, in other words.

    History can be, and has been, propagated by word-of-mouth. And so it was before one word was printed. Word-of-mouth is un-printed history.

Buff

I was responding to this....

  "There is no such thing as history before the invention of writing.  For that matter, there are no histories up until the point in time where writing histories became a thing, which is quite a bit later than one might think."

If creation happened before the written word, then it was recorded by writing,long after it took place. Since it would have been by word of mouth, I can only imagine the exaggerations and errors.

Be it Moses or another author, they were putting to parchment what someone told them.

We are told that all books within the four corners of the bible,old and new testament,are there by divine inspiration.

Would that have been by the teller to the author, or did the author apply what they thought were proper corrections?

We cannot know.

But for certain life was happening before the written word .Call it history, prehistoric,
or what ever term you want to put on it.... man came before the quill... Of that I am certain.

Yes, I agree the authors did not create a time frame for Genesis, but we can count backward to Adam and arrive at an acceptable number of years.

Personally I believe that everything was older than Adam,by a good bit.

This is not the place for that discussion... But all we do know of as fact... if it is fact... is what we have been told of Adam and forward.