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Bible Verses / Deuteronomy 31:1-30
« Last post by Jacob Ben Avraham on Yesterday at 20:38:49 »
PARASHAH: “VaYelech” (and he went)  DEUT 31:1-30

(Just got back from South Florida on Thursday, No, the hurricane didn't get us in Miami, just a lot of rain and a bit of wind)
 

     Just a few important points over this short Parashah.  A few more points to add to the previous study where we combined “Nitsavim and VaYelech”.

     “I am 120 years old today” starts Moshe, “I can no more go out and come in…” It is interesting that he mentions his age, 120 years old.  Guess the day he spoke to his people was his last birthday.  He would complete 120 years on earth and give up the ghost.  We can divide 120 years into 3 parts, the first 40 years, the second 40 years, and the third 40 years.  “40” is the number of testing and trials.
 
     He lived the first 40 years as a prince of Egypt and a general in the Egyptian army, through circumstances (which never happen by accident) Adonai sends Moshe running to the land of Midian where he meets his wife and family and becomes a shepherd.  So, we go from royalty to shepherd, a profession loathed by the Egyptians.  Then the last 40 years are the “ministry years”.  Adonai changed his profession so that he could fit into God’s perfect plan, that of freeing his people from the bondage of slavery through HIS chosen vessel. 

     Moshe was 80 years old when he received the commission to free his people.  The prior years were all “training years” or “Years of getting ready”.  We ask ourselves what we will be doing when and if we reach 80 years of life.  Will we be ready to continue in ministry? Or will we be looking forward to a rocking chair and sipping ice tea through a straw? 

     We must take the example of Moshe, active until the day he dies.  One can retire from a secular job, but not from ministry.  Ministry is a life-long calling.  Whether it be a pastor or rabbi, Torah teacher or Sunday School teacher, music leader, youth worker, o just giving out bread to the hungry along with a gospel tract of the “Bread of Life” we must not think of retirement, not from that.

     “I can no more go out and come in” Moshe has already been told that he is about to leave the land of the living, so, he is to anoint the future leader.  So, who will lead the people to the promised land?  The answer is in verse 3;  “YHVH your Elohim Himself is passing over before you.  He shall destroy these nations from before you and you possess them.  Yehoshua himself is passing over before you, as YHVH has spoken.”

     There is a play on words here.  Adonai Himself is leading the people, He is passing over before the people.  This is what a king in battle does.  The king leads his army.  Yet the verse also states that “Yehoshua” will pass over before the people.  So, who is leading?  BOTH are leading.  The spirit of YHVH is within Yehoshua (Joshua) whom Moshe has anointed as his successor.

      “Yehoshua” will take the lead and lead the people to the promised land.  “Yehoshua” (Joshua) is the longer name of “Yeshua” the name “Yehoshua” contains the name “Yeshuah” which is “salvation” or we could say, the name “Yeshua” with the added “h” which means “Behold, Salvation comes from “YAH” The name “Yehoshua” has the first three letters of YHVH (the “Yod” “Hey” and the “V”)

     Symbolically, it is God himself who will take the people through the final steps of the journey to reach the promised land, through his servant Joshua.  We will not live forever in our mortal bodies, sooner or later, we must name a successor, someone who will take our place.  Kind of like Luke Skywalker taking “Yoda’s place as the next “Jedi” yet he had to get prepared first! We need to be preparing someone who will be the next “you” in ministry. 

     After Moshe had finished writing the scrolls of the Torah, he gave them to the priests to put beside the Ark of the Covenant.  So, I imagine that the Ark of the Covenant had some sort of “side pocket” or a place to put the scrolls.  Now, the “Aron HaKodesh” was complete, with a gold chest with the tablets of the Commandments, the pot of Manna, Aron’s rod, and now the Torah scrolls.  All to remind us that the “Torah is our guide and leader to give us the “Bread of Life” who is Yeshua, who leads us through his Holy Spirit and his WORD. 

     Moshe also commanded that the Torah would be read during the time of Sukkot at the end of seven years (vss 10,11) It may have been just the book of “D’varim (Deuteronomy) or the whole Torah (from Genesis to Deuteronomy) I would like to think that it was the whole Torah (the five books at that time).  That way, the people would listen to the history of the world, the entrance of sin, and the plan of redemption. 
 
     Why is the WORD of God important to us? What is its purpose in our lives? Why should it be so important to read and study it?
 
     It shows us the perfection and sinless being of God and who He is.  It points out our weakness and sinful nature, and it points us to reconciliation with God through Yeshua.  Then it teaches us how to live a holy and righteous lifestyle through the mitzvoth (commandments) (In that order!) Good works do not come before salvation, but rather the other way around.  Righteous works will count towards rewards in heaven, not towards a salvation experience, THAT only comes by faith in the completed work of Yeshua at Calvary. 

Ben Avraham

P.S.  I really enjoyed my time in South Florida, spending time with family, meeting new friends, fellowship with other believers, going to the Keys, fishing and diving, and enjoying the sun and surf, (and big iguanas).  Thank you congregation Beth Hesed, Thank you "Go Elevate", Rabbi Hugo, Pastor Luis, the praise team, the "speakeasy/open mic" guys, and the "Real Estate" Torah study group.  (from Sept 15-29th)
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Messianic Judaism Forum / Deuteronomy 31:1-30
« Last post by Jacob Ben Avraham on Yesterday at 20:37:55 »
PARASHAH: “VaYelech” (and he went)  DEUT 31:1-30

(Just got back from South Florida on Thursday, No, the hurricane didn't get us in Miami, just a lot of rain and a bit of wind)
 

     Just a few important points over this short Parashah.  A few more points to add to the previous study where we combined “Nitsavim and VaYelech”.

     “I am 120 years old today” starts Moshe, “I can no more go out and come in…” It is interesting that he mentions his age, 120 years old.  Guess the day he spoke to his people was his last birthday.  He would complete 120 years on earth and give up the ghost.  We can divide 120 years into 3 parts, the first 40 years, the second 40 years, and the third 40 years.  “40” is the number of testing and trials.
 
     He lived the first 40 years as a prince of Egypt and a general in the Egyptian army, through circumstances (which never happen by accident) Adonai sends Moshe running to the land of Midian where he meets his wife and family and becomes a shepherd.  So, we go from royalty to shepherd, a profession loathed by the Egyptians.  Then the last 40 years are the “ministry years”.  Adonai changed his profession so that he could fit into God’s perfect plan, that of freeing his people from the bondage of slavery through HIS chosen vessel. 

     Moshe was 80 years old when he received the commission to free his people.  The prior years were all “training years” or “Years of getting ready”.  We ask ourselves what we will be doing when and if we reach 80 years of life.  Will we be ready to continue in ministry? Or will we be looking forward to a rocking chair and sipping ice tea through a straw? 

     We must take the example of Moshe, active until the day he dies.  One can retire from a secular job, but not from ministry.  Ministry is a life-long calling.  Whether it be a pastor or rabbi, Torah teacher or Sunday School teacher, music leader, youth worker, o just giving out bread to the hungry along with a gospel tract of the “Bread of Life” we must not think of retirement, not from that.

     “I can no more go out and come in” Moshe has already been told that he is about to leave the land of the living, so, he is to anoint the future leader.  So, who will lead the people to the promised land?  The answer is in verse 3;  “YHVH your Elohim Himself is passing over before you.  He shall destroy these nations from before you and you possess them.  Yehoshua himself is passing over before you, as YHVH has spoken.”

     There is a play on words here.  Adonai Himself is leading the people, He is passing over before the people.  This is what a king in battle does.  The king leads his army.  Yet the verse also states that “Yehoshua” will pass over before the people.  So, who is leading?  BOTH are leading.  The spirit of YHVH is within Yehoshua (Joshua) whom Moshe has anointed as his successor.

      “Yehoshua” will take the lead and lead the people to the promised land.  “Yehoshua” (Joshua) is the longer name of “Yeshua” the name “Yehoshua” contains the name “Yeshuah” which is “salvation” or we could say, the name “Yeshua” with the added “h” which means “Behold, Salvation comes from “YAH” The name “Yehoshua” has the first three letters of YHVH (the “Yod” “Hey” and the “V”)

     Symbolically, it is God himself who will take the people through the final steps of the journey to reach the promised land, through his servant Joshua.  We will not live forever in our mortal bodies, sooner or later, we must name a successor, someone who will take our place.  Kind of like Luke Skywalker taking “Yoda’s place as the next “Jedi” yet he had to get prepared first! We need to be preparing someone who will be the next “you” in ministry. 

     After Moshe had finished writing the scrolls of the Torah, he gave them to the priests to put beside the Ark of the Covenant.  So, I imagine that the Ark of the Covenant had some sort of “side pocket” or a place to put the scrolls.  Now, the “Aron HaKodesh” was complete, with a gold chest with the tablets of the Commandments, the pot of Manna, Aron’s rod, and now the Torah scrolls.  All to remind us that the “Torah is our guide and leader to give us the “Bread of Life” who is Yeshua, who leads us through his Holy Spirit and his WORD. 

     Moshe also commanded that the Torah would be read during the time of Sukkot at the end of seven years (vss 10,11) It may have been just the book of “D’varim (Deuteronomy) or the whole Torah (from Genesis to Deuteronomy) I would like to think that it was the whole Torah (the five books at that time).  That way, the people would listen to the history of the world, the entrance of sin, and the plan of redemption. 
 
     Why is the WORD of God important to us? What is its purpose in our lives? Why should it be so important to read and study it?
 
     It shows us the perfection and sinless being of God and who He is.  It points out our weakness and sinful nature, and it points us to reconciliation with God through Yeshua.  Then it teaches us how to live a holy and righteous lifestyle through the mitzvoth (commandments) (In that order!) Good works do not come before salvation, but rather the other way around.  Righteous works will count towards rewards in heaven, not towards a salvation experience, THAT only comes by faith in the completed work of Yeshua at Calvary. 

Ben Avraham

P.S.  I really enjoyed my time in South Florida, spending time with family, meeting new friends, fellowship with other believers, going to the Keys, fishing and diving, and enjoying the sun and surf, (and big iguanas).  Thank you congregation Beth Hesed, Thank you "Go Elevate", Rabbi Hugo, Pastor Luis, the praise team, the "speakeasy/open mic" guys, and the "Real Estate" Torah study group.  (from Sept 15-29th)
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PARASHAH: “VaYelech” (and he went)  DEUT 31:1-30

(Just got back from South Florida on Thursday, No, the hurricane didn't get us in Miami, just a lot of rain and a bit of wind)
 

     Just a few important points over this short Parashah.  A few more points to add to the previous study where we combined “Nitsavim and VaYelech”.

     “I am 120 years old today” starts Moshe, “I can no more go out and come in…” It is interesting that he mentions his age, 120 years old.  Guess the day he spoke to his people was his last birthday.  He would complete 120 years on earth and give up the ghost.  We can divide 120 years into 3 parts, the first 40 years, the second 40 years, and the third 40 years.  “40” is the number of testing and trials.
 
     He lived the first 40 years as a prince of Egypt and a general in the Egyptian army, through circumstances (which never happen by accident) Adonai sends Moshe running to the land of Midian where he meets his wife and family and becomes a shepherd.  So, we go from royalty to shepherd, a profession loathed by the Egyptians.  Then the last 40 years are the “ministry years”.  Adonai changed his profession so that he could fit into God’s perfect plan, that of freeing his people from the bondage of slavery through HIS chosen vessel. 

     Moshe was 80 years old when he received the commission to free his people.  The prior years were all “training years” or “Years of getting ready”.  We ask ourselves what we will be doing when and if we reach 80 years of life.  Will we be ready to continue in ministry? Or will we be looking forward to a rocking chair and sipping ice tea through a straw? 

     We must take the example of Moshe, active until the day he dies.  One can retire from a secular job, but not from ministry.  Ministry is a life-long calling.  Whether it be a pastor or rabbi, Torah teacher or Sunday School teacher, music leader, youth worker, o just giving out bread to the hungry along with a gospel tract of the “Bread of Life” we must not think of retirement, not from that.

     “I can no more go out and come in” Moshe has already been told that he is about to leave the land of the living, so, he is to anoint the future leader.  So, who will lead the people to the promised land?  The answer is in verse 3;  “YHVH your Elohim Himself is passing over before you.  He shall destroy these nations from before you and you possess them.  Yehoshua himself is passing over before you, as YHVH has spoken.”

     There is a play on words here.  Adonai Himself is leading the people, He is passing over before the people.  This is what a king in battle does.  The king leads his army.  Yet the verse also states that “Yehoshua” will pass over before the people.  So, who is leading?  BOTH are leading.  The spirit of YHVH is within Yehoshua (Joshua) whom Moshe has anointed as his successor.

      “Yehoshua” will take the lead and lead the people to the promised land.  “Yehoshua” (Joshua) is the longer name of “Yeshua” the name “Yehoshua” contains the name “Yeshuah” which is “salvation” or we could say, the name “Yeshua” with the added “h” which means “Behold, Salvation comes from “YAH” The name “Yehoshua” has the first three letters of YHVH (the “Yod” “Hey” and the “V”)

     Symbolically, it is God himself who will take the people through the final steps of the journey to reach the promised land, through his servant Joshua.  We will not live forever in our mortal bodies, sooner or later, we must name a successor, someone who will take our place.  Kind of like Luke Skywalker taking “Yoda’s place as the next “Jedi” yet he had to get prepared first! We need to be preparing someone who will be the next “you” in ministry. 

     After Moshe had finished writing the scrolls of the Torah, he gave them to the priests to put beside the Ark of the Covenant.  So, I imagine that the Ark of the Covenant had some sort of “side pocket” or a place to put the scrolls.  Now, the “Aron HaKodesh” was complete, with a gold chest with the tablets of the Commandments, the pot of Manna, Aron’s rod, and now the Torah scrolls.  All to remind us that the “Torah is our guide and leader to give us the “Bread of Life” who is Yeshua, who leads us through his Holy Spirit and his WORD. 

     Moshe also commanded that the Torah would be read during the time of Sukkot at the end of seven years (vss 10,11) It may have been just the book of “D’varim (Deuteronomy) or the whole Torah (from Genesis to Deuteronomy) I would like to think that it was the whole Torah (the five books at that time).  That way, the people would listen to the history of the world, the entrance of sin, and the plan of redemption. 
 
     Why is the WORD of God important to us? What is its purpose in our lives? Why should it be so important to read and study it?
 
     It shows us the perfection and sinless being of God and who He is.  It points out our weakness and sinful nature, and it points us to reconciliation with God through Yeshua.  Then it teaches us how to live a holy and righteous lifestyle through the mitzvoth (commandments) (In that order!) Good works do not come before salvation, but rather the other way around.  Righteous works will count towards rewards in heaven, not towards a salvation experience, THAT only comes by faith in the completed work of Yeshua at Calvary. 

Ben Avraham

P.S.  I really enjoyed my time in South Florida, spending time with family, meeting new friends, fellowship with other believers, going to the Keys, fishing and diving, and enjoying the sun and surf, (and big iguanas).  Thank you congregation Beth Hesed, Thank you "Go Elevate", Rabbi Hugo, Pastor Luis, the praise team, the "speakeasy/open mic" guys, and the "Real Estate" Torah study group.  (from Sept 15-29th)
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Theology Forum / Re: An Interesting Question
« Last post by 4WD on Yesterday at 19:20:26 »
I try to find it online to read free since the book cost over $50.00.  I have a problem with men making money off of God's word~freely we have received, freely we should give to God's children.  I have written tracts and other materials over the years, and always give them out free to anyone who desires to have them. I
But obviously, RB, you were only do that as time away for you job permitted.  You were devoting most of your time to making a living elsewhere and writing tracts and other materials as time permitted. You first made sure that you were well covered financially. And please know that I have not the least problem with that.  I am in the same boat and with not even bothering to actually publish much of anything outside of work.

Quote from: RB
If you know where I can read it free, then I would be happy to do so. I want to read everything to test myself and others out with the scriptures. I have no fear of what anyone has to say about any subject concerning the scriptures. No one will ever accuse me of not trying the spirits with the word of God
I am quite sure that book is not available for free. But I am not sure where you were looking but you can find it here for $26.99, not over $50.00.

https://www.collegepress.com/collections/general-interest/products/what-the-bible-says-about-grace-set-free
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Creation scientists
« Last post by 4WD on Yesterday at 14:24:35 »
I am not subject to titles or designations created by various groups in support or defiance of their pet theories or dominant concerns. There are no young or old earth creationists in scripture, just those who believe scriptural testimony, and those who do not.
So what makes you think the Coconino Sandstone guy is a creationist?  There certainly is nothing in the scriptures about the Coconino sandstone.
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End Times Forum / Re: Mystery Babylon~deadly wound healed
« Last post by Amo on Yesterday at 13:25:45 »
CHAPTER 14
AGENDA CONFIRMED


https://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16singu.htm

The following quoted encyclical may be viewed at the link provided above. Emphasis is mine.


Singulari Nos

On the Errors of Lammenais

Pope Gregory XVI - 1834

ON THE ERRORS OF LAMMENAIS

To All the Patriarchs, Primates, Archbishops, and Bishops.

Venerable Brothers, Greetings and Apostolic Blessing.

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The illustrious examples of faith, obedience, and devotion conveyed by the enthusiastic reception given everywhere to Our encyclical letter of August 15, 1832, gave Us great joy. We declared in it the only sound doctrine to be followed concerning the main points in the fulfillment of the duties of Our office for the whole Catholic flock. The statements made by many who had approved those counsels and opinions which so grieved Us have increased Our joy, for they have acted as prompt defenders and supporters of Our decrees. We recognized that that evil which is still inflamed against both sacred and civil matters is not yet removed. Widely disseminated but very shameless pamphlets and certain gloomy machinations openly denoted those things which We condemned in a letter sent to Our venerable brother, the bishop of Rennes, in the month of October. Moreover, his response to those things which cause Us so much concern and anxiety has been gratefully received. His statement sent to Us on December 11 of last year distinctly confirmed that he would follow solely and absolutely the teaching transmitted in Our encyclical letter and that he would not write or approve anything which differs from it. In that matter We opened Our heart in paternal love to the son who was moved by Our warnings. We should also have trusted that he would produce more brilliant writings in time to confirm his compliance in word and deed with Our decision.

2. It hardly seemed believable that he whom We welcomed with such good will and affection would so quickly forget Our kindness and desert Our resolution. We can hardly believe that the good hope which occupied Us with the fruit of Our teaching has died. However, We have learned of the pamphlet written in French under the title Paroles d’un croyant, for it has been printed by this man and disseminated everywhere. It was written under a pseudonym, but matters of public record make clear the author’s identity. Though small in size, it is enormous in wickedness.

3. We were very much amazed, venerable brothers, when at first We understood the blindness of this wretched author, for in him knowledge does not come from God, but from the elements of the world; this “knowledge” bursts forth. Against the oath solemnly given in his declaration, he cloaked Catholic teaching in enticing verbal artifice, in order ultimately to oppose it and overthrow it. We expressed this in Our letter mentioned above concerning both the dutiful submission toward authorities and the prevention of the fatal contamination of the people by indifferentism. It also concerned measures to use against the spreading license of ideas and speeches. Finally, it concerned that freedom of conscience which should be thoroughly condemned and the repulsive conspiracy of societies enkindling destruction of sacred and state affairs, even from the followers of false religions, as We have made clear by the authority handed down to Us.

4. The mind shrinks from reading through those things in which the author tries to break the bond of loyalty and submission toward leaders. Once the torch of treason is ignited everywhere, it ruins public order, fosters contempt of government, and stimulates lawlessness. It overthrows every element of sacred and civil power. From this, the writer transposes the power of princes, through a new and wicked idea, to the power of Satan and an omen of subterfuge, as if it were dangerous to divine law, even a work of sin. He brands the same marks of wickedness on the priests and rulers because of the conspiracy of crimes and labors in which he dreams they are joined against the rights of the people. Not content with such temerity, he thrusts forth every kind of opinion, speech, and freedom of conscience.
He prays that everything will be favorable and happy for the soldiers who will fight to free liberty from tyranny, and he encourages groups and associations in the furious combat which engulfs everything. He stands so firm in such heinous thoughts that We feel him trample right from the beginning Our advice and orders.

5. It is annoying to recount here everything which throws all human and divine affairs into confusion with the wicked fruit of impiety and daring. But these things especially arouse Our indignation and should clearly not be tolerated by religion. Especially dangerous is the fact that holy Scriptures that have been tainted with the errors of this author are disseminated to the unwary. Acting as if he were sent and inspired by God, he speaks in the name of the Trinity and then uses Scripture as a pretext for releasing the people from the law of obedience. He twists the words of holy Scripture in a bold and cunning manner in order to firmly establish his depraved ravings. He does this in order that, as St. Bernard used to say, “He might spread clouds for light or give poison for honey, or rather in the honey, creating a new Gospel for the people and laying a different foundation from the one which is already laid.”

6. He who placed Us as scouts in Israel for bids Us to hide in silence the great harm brought to sound doctrine. So We must warn about the error those whom Jesus, the author and perfector of the faith, entrusted to Our care. Therefore, We consulted many of Our venerable brothers, the cardinals of the Holy Roman Church. We have studied the book entitled Paroles d’un croyant. By Our apostolic power, We condemn the book: furthermore, We decree that it be perpetually condemned. It corrupts the people by a wicked abuse of the word of God, to dissolve the bonds of all public order and to weaken all authority. It arouses, fosters, and strengthens seditions, riots, and rebellions in the empires. We condemn the book because it contains false, calumnious, and rash propositions which lead to anarchy; which are contrary to the word of God; which are impious, scandalous, and erroneous; and which the Church already condemned, especially in regard to the Waldensians, Wycliffites, Hussites, and other heretics of this kind.

7. Venerable brothers, it will now be your duty to strongly support Our orders which We urgently demand as necessary for the safety and welfare of both sacred and civil affairs. Let us see that no writing of this kind comes out of hiding into the light, since it would be that much more harmful if it were to set sail through the passion of insane reform and creep far and wide like a crab among the people. It should be your duty to encourage sound doctrine through this whole affair and to make known the craftiness of the innovators. Watch more keenly over the care of the Christian flock, so that zeal for religion, piety of actions, and public peace might happily flourish and increase. We wait for this, trusting in your faith and commitment to the common good so that, with the help of God who is the Father of lights, We might give thanks (with St. Cyprian) that the error has been understood and weakened and then laid low, because it was recognized and discovered.

8. As for the rest, We greatly deplore the fact that, where the ravings of human reason extend, there is somebody who studies new things and strives to know more than is necessary, against the advice of the apostle. There you will find someone who is overconfident in seeking the truth outside the Catholic Church, in which it can be found without even a light tarnish of error. Therefore, the Church is called, and is indeed, a pillar and foundation of truth. You correctly understand, venerable brothers, that We speak here also of that erroneous philosophical system which was recently brought in and is clearly to be condemned. This system, which comes from the contemptible and unrestrained desire for innovation, does not seek truth where it stands in the received and holy apostolic inheritance. Rather, other empty doctrines, futile and uncertain doctrines not approved by the Church, are adopted. Only the most conceited men wrongly think that these teachings can sustain and support that truth.

9. While We write these things to understand and preserve the sound doctrine divinely delegated to Us, We sign over the harsh wound inflicted to Our heart by the error of Our son. In the great sadness We suffer, there is no hope of consolation, unless We can recall him to the way of righteousness. Therefore, at the same time, let Us raise Our eyes and hands to Him who is the leader of wisdom and the corrector of the wise. Let Us beseech Him with repeated prayer to give this man a docile heart and a great spirit to hear the voice of the most loving and most sorrowful Father. May he hasten the joy of the Church, the joy of your order, the joy of this Holy See, and the joy of Our unworthiness. Certainly We shall provide an auspicious and happy occasion to take hold of him and embrace him as a son returning to the bosom of his Father. We are and We shall be very optimistic from his example that others will come to their senses, others who might have been led into error by the same author. May there be an agreement of teaching, one course of thinking, one harmony of action and study, among all for the good of sacred and public matters. We need you and We expect you to beseech the Lord with Us in your pastoral concern for this great gift. We pray for divine assistance in this work and We lovingly impart Our apostolic blessing on you and on your flock as a sign of this.

Given in Rome, at St. Peter’s, on June 25, 1834, in the fourth year of Our pontificate.

The above encyclical appears to be more or less a response to a booklet published by a Catholic who would not agree or submit to the commands of the previous encyclical we just examined. Judging by the tone of the document, this individual should have considered himself lucky, that the papacy had lost its ability to procure civil penalties and or death for the disobedient.

True to her nature, Babylon compounds church and state again in the above, declaring all who do not agree or submit to her sentiments enemies of sacred and civil affairs. How dare this individual have and exercise freedom of speech and liberty of conscience, to openly disagree with her teachings and use of civil power to enforce compliance with the same. All such is of course presented as a serious danger to herself and the princes and rulers she is always in bed with. She has warred against government by and for the people since her inception, and always will. Having to change her approach and strategies over time as her calls to reestablish the old order were so widely ignored.

We can see her age old desire to silence and censure all dissent in this document. Those who are paying attention also understand her heavy influence regarding the censorship we see today in the mainstream and social media arena’s. She has invested heavily in both, often meeting with the leaders and CEO’s of them, and already controls much of what the world will or will not hear and see. This trend will only continue to increase of course, if she can help it.

She again attacks certain groups from the past which she sets forth as examples of those she properly dealt with and put in their places. Others who dared in the past to exercise freedom of conscience and speech against her divine authority and will, as she sees it. The Waldensians, Wycliffites, Hussites, and other heretics. People, Christians, who dared to disagree with her teachings and self declared right to force the same upon all. These whom the papacy persecuted, cut off from societies, outlawed, hunted, imprisoned, tortured, murdered, burned at the stake, and exterminated. All in the name of Jesus Christ, and still apparently proud of doing so when this encyclical was written.

No institution on earth more properly fits the description of the man of sin given by the apostle Paul, or BABYLON THE GREAT described in the book of Revelation, than the papacy and their pope. Who set themselves up in the temple of God, and placed their man of sin over it, as judge, jury, and executioner of all on this earth. Setting himself up in the temple of God, as though he were God. Blasphemy upon blasphemy. As she is now and intends to do once again through her non stop illicit relations with her elitist and power hungry lovers of this doomed world. Presenting herself and her illicit religious, political, and “scientific” lovers, as the saviors of this world for all who will submit to the same. This in the place as it were, of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who alone has and will save anyone. 

2Th 2:1  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Short as the above quoted encyclical was, it revealed no changes from the previous one examined. Its message still being as hostile toward the founding principles of the United States, as the first one examined. Babylon’s encyclicals have grown far more lengthy and complicated over time. Nevertheless, their goal is the same today and always as that of those already examined. In the establishment of her authority once again, over and above all others. We will end our examination of papal encyclicals with this chapter. Moving on to a closer look at the Babylon’s of the old and new covenants in the next chapters.
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Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: THE BRIDE AND BABYLON
« Last post by Amo on Yesterday at 13:19:56 »
CHAPTER 14
AGENDA CONFIRMED


https://www.papalencyclicals.net/Greg16/g16singu.htm

The following quoted encyclical may be viewed at the link provided above. Emphasis is mine.


Singulari Nos

On the Errors of Lammenais

Pope Gregory XVI - 1834

ON THE ERRORS OF LAMMENAIS

To All the Patriarchs, Primates, Archbishops, and Bishops.

Venerable Brothers, Greetings and Apostolic Blessing.

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The illustrious examples of faith, obedience, and devotion conveyed by the enthusiastic reception given everywhere to Our encyclical letter of August 15, 1832, gave Us great joy. We declared in it the only sound doctrine to be followed concerning the main points in the fulfillment of the duties of Our office for the whole Catholic flock. The statements made by many who had approved those counsels and opinions which so grieved Us have increased Our joy, for they have acted as prompt defenders and supporters of Our decrees. We recognized that that evil which is still inflamed against both sacred and civil matters is not yet removed. Widely disseminated but very shameless pamphlets and certain gloomy machinations openly denoted those things which We condemned in a letter sent to Our venerable brother, the bishop of Rennes, in the month of October. Moreover, his response to those things which cause Us so much concern and anxiety has been gratefully received. His statement sent to Us on December 11 of last year distinctly confirmed that he would follow solely and absolutely the teaching transmitted in Our encyclical letter and that he would not write or approve anything which differs from it. In that matter We opened Our heart in paternal love to the son who was moved by Our warnings. We should also have trusted that he would produce more brilliant writings in time to confirm his compliance in word and deed with Our decision.

2. It hardly seemed believable that he whom We welcomed with such good will and affection would so quickly forget Our kindness and desert Our resolution. We can hardly believe that the good hope which occupied Us with the fruit of Our teaching has died. However, We have learned of the pamphlet written in French under the title Paroles d’un croyant, for it has been printed by this man and disseminated everywhere. It was written under a pseudonym, but matters of public record make clear the author’s identity. Though small in size, it is enormous in wickedness.

3. We were very much amazed, venerable brothers, when at first We understood the blindness of this wretched author, for in him knowledge does not come from God, but from the elements of the world; this “knowledge” bursts forth. Against the oath solemnly given in his declaration, he cloaked Catholic teaching in enticing verbal artifice, in order ultimately to oppose it and overthrow it. We expressed this in Our letter mentioned above concerning both the dutiful submission toward authorities and the prevention of the fatal contamination of the people by indifferentism. It also concerned measures to use against the spreading license of ideas and speeches. Finally, it concerned that freedom of conscience which should be thoroughly condemned and the repulsive conspiracy of societies enkindling destruction of sacred and state affairs, even from the followers of false religions, as We have made clear by the authority handed down to Us.

4. The mind shrinks from reading through those things in which the author tries to break the bond of loyalty and submission toward leaders. Once the torch of treason is ignited everywhere, it ruins public order, fosters contempt of government, and stimulates lawlessness. It overthrows every element of sacred and civil power. From this, the writer transposes the power of princes, through a new and wicked idea, to the power of Satan and an omen of subterfuge, as if it were dangerous to divine law, even a work of sin. He brands the same marks of wickedness on the priests and rulers because of the conspiracy of crimes and labors in which he dreams they are joined against the rights of the people. Not content with such temerity, he thrusts forth every kind of opinion, speech, and freedom of conscience.
He prays that everything will be favorable and happy for the soldiers who will fight to free liberty from tyranny, and he encourages groups and associations in the furious combat which engulfs everything. He stands so firm in such heinous thoughts that We feel him trample right from the beginning Our advice and orders.

5. It is annoying to recount here everything which throws all human and divine affairs into confusion with the wicked fruit of impiety and daring. But these things especially arouse Our indignation and should clearly not be tolerated by religion. Especially dangerous is the fact that holy Scriptures that have been tainted with the errors of this author are disseminated to the unwary. Acting as if he were sent and inspired by God, he speaks in the name of the Trinity and then uses Scripture as a pretext for releasing the people from the law of obedience. He twists the words of holy Scripture in a bold and cunning manner in order to firmly establish his depraved ravings. He does this in order that, as St. Bernard used to say, “He might spread clouds for light or give poison for honey, or rather in the honey, creating a new Gospel for the people and laying a different foundation from the one which is already laid.”

6. He who placed Us as scouts in Israel for bids Us to hide in silence the great harm brought to sound doctrine. So We must warn about the error those whom Jesus, the author and perfector of the faith, entrusted to Our care. Therefore, We consulted many of Our venerable brothers, the cardinals of the Holy Roman Church. We have studied the book entitled Paroles d’un croyant. By Our apostolic power, We condemn the book: furthermore, We decree that it be perpetually condemned. It corrupts the people by a wicked abuse of the word of God, to dissolve the bonds of all public order and to weaken all authority. It arouses, fosters, and strengthens seditions, riots, and rebellions in the empires. We condemn the book because it contains false, calumnious, and rash propositions which lead to anarchy; which are contrary to the word of God; which are impious, scandalous, and erroneous; and which the Church already condemned, especially in regard to the Waldensians, Wycliffites, Hussites, and other heretics of this kind.

7. Venerable brothers, it will now be your duty to strongly support Our orders which We urgently demand as necessary for the safety and welfare of both sacred and civil affairs. Let us see that no writing of this kind comes out of hiding into the light, since it would be that much more harmful if it were to set sail through the passion of insane reform and creep far and wide like a crab among the people. It should be your duty to encourage sound doctrine through this whole affair and to make known the craftiness of the innovators. Watch more keenly over the care of the Christian flock, so that zeal for religion, piety of actions, and public peace might happily flourish and increase. We wait for this, trusting in your faith and commitment to the common good so that, with the help of God who is the Father of lights, We might give thanks (with St. Cyprian) that the error has been understood and weakened and then laid low, because it was recognized and discovered.

8. As for the rest, We greatly deplore the fact that, where the ravings of human reason extend, there is somebody who studies new things and strives to know more than is necessary, against the advice of the apostle. There you will find someone who is overconfident in seeking the truth outside the Catholic Church, in which it can be found without even a light tarnish of error. Therefore, the Church is called, and is indeed, a pillar and foundation of truth. You correctly understand, venerable brothers, that We speak here also of that erroneous philosophical system which was recently brought in and is clearly to be condemned. This system, which comes from the contemptible and unrestrained desire for innovation, does not seek truth where it stands in the received and holy apostolic inheritance. Rather, other empty doctrines, futile and uncertain doctrines not approved by the Church, are adopted. Only the most conceited men wrongly think that these teachings can sustain and support that truth.

9. While We write these things to understand and preserve the sound doctrine divinely delegated to Us, We sign over the harsh wound inflicted to Our heart by the error of Our son. In the great sadness We suffer, there is no hope of consolation, unless We can recall him to the way of righteousness. Therefore, at the same time, let Us raise Our eyes and hands to Him who is the leader of wisdom and the corrector of the wise. Let Us beseech Him with repeated prayer to give this man a docile heart and a great spirit to hear the voice of the most loving and most sorrowful Father. May he hasten the joy of the Church, the joy of your order, the joy of this Holy See, and the joy of Our unworthiness. Certainly We shall provide an auspicious and happy occasion to take hold of him and embrace him as a son returning to the bosom of his Father. We are and We shall be very optimistic from his example that others will come to their senses, others who might have been led into error by the same author. May there be an agreement of teaching, one course of thinking, one harmony of action and study, among all for the good of sacred and public matters. We need you and We expect you to beseech the Lord with Us in your pastoral concern for this great gift. We pray for divine assistance in this work and We lovingly impart Our apostolic blessing on you and on your flock as a sign of this.

Given in Rome, at St. Peter’s, on June 25, 1834, in the fourth year of Our pontificate.

The above encyclical appears to be more or less a response to a booklet published by a Catholic who would not agree or submit to the commands of the previous encyclical we just examined. Judging by the tone of the document, this individual should have considered himself lucky, that the papacy had lost its ability to procure civil penalties and or death for the disobedient.

True to her nature, Babylon compounds church and state again in the above, declaring all who do not agree or submit to her sentiments enemies of sacred and civil affairs. How dare this individual have and exercise freedom of speech and liberty of conscience, to openly disagree with her teachings and use of civil power to enforce compliance with the same. All such is of course presented as a serious danger to herself and the princes and rulers she is always in bed with. She has warred against government by and for the people since her inception, and always will. Having to change her approach and strategies over time as her calls to reestablish the old order were so widely ignored.

We can see her age old desire to silence and censure all dissent in this document. Those who are paying attention also understand her heavy influence regarding the censorship we see today in the mainstream and social media arena’s. She has invested heavily in both, often meeting with the leaders and CEO’s of them, and already controls much of what the world will or will not hear and see. This trend will only continue to increase of course, if she can help it.

She again attacks certain groups from the past which she sets forth as examples of those she properly dealt with and put in their places. Others who dared in the past to exercise freedom of conscience and speech against her divine authority and will, as she sees it. The Waldensians, Wycliffites, Hussites, and other heretics. People, Christians, who dared to disagree with her teachings and self declared right to force the same upon all. These whom the papacy persecuted, cut off from societies, outlawed, hunted, imprisoned, tortured, murdered, burned at the stake, and exterminated. All in the name of Jesus Christ, and still apparently proud of doing so when this encyclical was written.

No institution on earth more properly fits the description of the man of sin given by the apostle Paul, or BABYLON THE GREAT described in the book of Revelation, than the papacy and their pope. Who set themselves up in the temple of God, and placed their man of sin over it, as judge, jury, and executioner of all on this earth. Setting himself up in the temple of God, as though he were God. Blasphemy upon blasphemy. As she is now and intends to do once again through her non stop illicit relations with her elitist and power hungry lovers of this doomed world. Presenting herself and her illicit religious, political, and “scientific” lovers, as the saviors of this world for all who will submit to the same. This in the place as it were, of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who alone has and will save anyone. 

2Th 2:1  Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Short as the above quoted encyclical was, it revealed no changes from the previous one examined. Its message still being as hostile toward the founding principles of the United States, as the first one examined. Babylon’s encyclicals have grown far more lengthy and complicated over time. Nevertheless, their goal is the same today and always as that of those already examined. In the establishment of her authority once again, over and above all others. We will end our examination of papal encyclicals with this chapter. Moving on to a closer look at the Babylon’s of the old and new covenants in the next chapters.
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Do the Republicans really want to win in NOV?
« Last post by Rella on Yesterday at 12:56:37 »
Does it really matter if they do?

When Trump was in office they had the Presidency, the House, and the Senate. What did they do, but fight, squander, and or waste their time. There are and will be enough traitors within the Replicrat party, to prevent any real progress in the right direction. Could be wrong. Hopefully I am. I would be surprised however, to see my suspicions proved wrong.

From the standpoint of not wanting something Biden is pushing for that requires a vote it does.

Look what he has done in less then 2 years. And we have 2 plus more to go with him.

The Rinos will always be against anyone they did not pick. But that still does not mean that a good Rep. wont do a bang up great job with or with out either house.

So it matters. It matters a lot unless you can honestly say that your life is so much better under Bidens rule.

For sure Little Kim must now be enamored with Kamala.... another reason to want the Republicans in control... because she may well be our president before Joes term is out....
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Creation scientists
« Last post by Amo on Yesterday at 12:02:21 »
No, that is not a creationist view on the Coconino Sandstone; that is a young earth creationist view on the Coconino Sandstone. If you are going to spread that stuff, at least designate it appropriately.

I am not subject to titles or designations created by various groups in support or defiance of their pet theories or dominant concerns. There are no young or old earth creationists in scripture, just those who believe scriptural testimony, and those who do not.
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Do the Republicans really want to win in NOV?
« Last post by Amo on Yesterday at 11:53:02 »
Does it really matter if they do?

When Trump was in office they had the Presidency, the House, and the Senate. What did they do, but fight, squander, and or waste their time. There are and will be enough traitors within the Replicrat party, to prevent any real progress in the right direction. Could be wrong. Hopefully I am. I would be surprised however, to see my suspicions proved wrong.
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