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The Fundamental Errors of Seventh-day Adventists
« on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 12:55:59 »
These are the greatest and most fundamental errors of Seventh-day Adventists:

1. Seventh-day Adventists don't care about the rights of victims, justice or free speech, unless Satan's unrestrained power of evil impacts their own personal right to keep the Sabbath.

2. Seventh-day Adventists are fanatically obsessed with their belief about their own suffering in the future and don’t care about how their indifference contributes to the suffering of others now.

3. Their souls delight in their abominations.

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« Reply #1 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 13:14:04 »
4.  The stupidity in keeping a tradition rooted in "Millerism" when Jesus did not return in 1844.

Guess you share that one.

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« Reply #2 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 14:35:11 »
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4.  The stupidity in keeping a tradition rooted in "Millerism" when Jesus did not return in 1844.

I don't expect to see any intelligent, Biblically based rebuttals to the current Millerite doctrine substantiating 1844 in the thread Refutations of the Current Millerite Doctrine Substantiating 1844. Please realize that slander is not a valid rebuttal.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 16:02:32 »
These are the greatest and most fundamental errors of Seventh-day Adventists:

1. Seventh-day Adventists don't care about the rights of victims, justice or free speech, unless Satan's unrestrained power of evil impacts their own personal right to keep the Sabbath.

2. Seventh-day Adventists are fanatically obsessed with their belief about their own suffering in the future and don’t care about how their indifference contributes to the suffering of others now.

3. Their souls delight in their abominations.

Of course they don't care, Shubee knows all of them personally, and is therefore qualified to make such a judgmental statement about each and every one of them. Well, that and the fact that he and God are so very close, that he has inside info about all SDA's. Especially concerning their extreme delight in their abominations.
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« Reply #4 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 16:10:05 »
I don't expect to see any intelligent, Biblically based rebuttals to the current Millerite doctrine substantiating 1844 in the thread Refutations of the Current Millerite Doctrine Substantiating 1844. Please realize that slander is not a valid rebuttal.


How very strange. Opening a thread with a slanderous statement encompassing millions of people of an entire denomination, and then pointing out to another slanderer that slander is not a valid rebuttal, or accusation therefore by implication either.

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« Reply #5 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 18:09:09 »
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Of course they don't care, Shubee knows all of them personally, and is therefore qualified to make such a judgmental statement about each and every one of them.

All that matters pertaining to you is that you fit the profile of a fanatically obsessed Seventh-day Adventist that believes you're going to be persecuted for keeping the Sabbath and that you don't care about the charge that Seventh-day Adventists Are Sanctimonious Enablers of Genocide. And you don't know of any Seventh-day Adventists that do care.

What did Sister White say about that?

"Remember that to cause a suspicion or a reproach to rest upon the cause of God is a terrible thing. It is crucifying the Son of God afresh, and putting him to open shame before his enemies. Those who do this are without excuse, and their course will stand against them in the day of reckoning." Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, November 4, 1884, paragraph 13.
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All that matters pertaining to you is that you fit the profile of a fanatically obsessed Seventh-day Adventist that believes you're going to be persecuted for keeping the Sabbath and that you don't care about the charge that Seventh-day Adventists Are Sanctimonious Enablers of Genocide. And you don't know of any Seventh-day Adventists that do care.

What did Sister White say about that?

"Remember that to cause a suspicion or a reproach to rest upon the cause of God is a terrible thing. It is crucifying the Son of God afresh, and putting him to open shame before his enemies. Those who do this are without excuse, and their course will stand against them in the day of reckoning." Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, November 4, 1884, paragraph 13.


It is of course as you say because, well, you said it. Actually, you are not the first on these boards to bring up the abortion issue, and problems within our denomination relating to it. Others have done, and I encouraged them to follow their convictions and go after an expose evil, wherever they find it. Of course, I'm sure you already knew that as informed as you of course are.

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« Reply #7 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 20:42:56 »
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I encouraged them to follow their convictions and go after an expose evil, wherever they find it.

Yes, but you are exempt, just as you're willfully blind to the content of http://everythingimportant.org/Laodicea/

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« Reply #8 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 21:49:50 »
I don't expect to see any intelligent, Biblically based rebuttals to the current Millerite doctrine substantiating 1844 in the thread Refutations of the Current Millerite Doctrine Substantiating 1844. Please realize that slander is not a valid rebuttal.


Point out the slander.  It is historical record that Jesus did not return in 1844. 

Slander -

noun - the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

Verb - make false and damaging statements about (someone).


Nothing I said was untrue, therefore it cannot be slander.  It may be classified as unkind, but the truth often is unkind.

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« Reply #9 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 23:27:52 »
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Point out the slander.

You used the word "stupidity" without realizing the stupidity of ignoring Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment. So, please, if you think you have a defense, either explain why you feel that you're exempt from having to obey Jesus Christ or let's see you post a Biblically based rebuttal to the current Millerite doctrine substantiating 1844 in the thread Refutations of the Current Millerite Doctrine Substantiating 1844.

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« Reply #10 on: Sat Oct 13, 2018 - 23:43:24 »
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It is historical record that Jesus did not return in 1844.

It's also a historical fact that Jesus didn't return in the first century. More importantly, I'm not so arrogant and daring as some are to ridicule the New Testament expectation that the end of the world was to be in the lifetime of the Apostles.

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« Reply #11 on: Sun Oct 14, 2018 - 00:17:40 »
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How very strange. Opening a thread with a slanderous statement encompassing millions of people of an entire denomination.

That should only be strange to the untaught and ineducable. Prophets are known to make broadly-stated judgments. Consider, for example, Sister White quoting Jesus, passing His judgment on Seventh-day Adventists, saying: "Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations."

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« Reply #12 on: Sun Oct 14, 2018 - 08:48:18 »
You used the word "stupidity" without realizing the stupidity of ignoring Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment. So, please, if you think you have a defense, either explain why you feel that you're exempt from having to obey Jesus Christ or let's see you post a Biblically based rebuttal to the current Millerite doctrine substantiating 1844 in the thread Refutations of the Current Millerite Doctrine Substantiating 1844.


That isn't slander.  Go read the definition again.  Jesus didn't return in 1844.  Your entire movement is in large part based upon a doctrine that was proven false by history itself.

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Your entire movement is in large part based upon a doctrine that was proven false by history itself.

Is it possible for you to repent of your refusal to obey Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment? The Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Millerites, Circa 2018 correct William Miller's faulty perceptions and reveal the new light that William Miller dreamed about.

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Is it possible for you to repent of your refusal to obey Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment? The Fundamental Beliefs of Seventh-day Millerites, Circa 2018 correct William Miller's faulty perceptions and reveal the new light that William Miller dreamed about.

I imagine that a good Catholic should be able to understand this. The Bible clearly teaches that the Church is a temple "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone." And everyone knows about the mistakes of Saint Peter.

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« Reply #15 on: Sat Oct 20, 2018 - 10:00:11 »
Yes, but you are exempt, just as you're willfully blind to the content of http://everythingimportant.org/Laodicea/


Yes, I am willingly blind to the content of the multiple links you continually try to send me to. I have exempted myself from joining you in the pursuance of your agenda. Just as I have many others. I am not you, I was never meant to be you, you are not who I seek to emulate, follow, or serve. You are not the head of the body, you may or may not be a member of it. God will make the final determination on that one for each of us. Finding people to join in your efforts to confront specific wrongs you are convicted to address is one thing, demanding others join you is another altogether. Impersonating a member of the body is one thing, impersonating the head of the body as though you were the example all should and must follow is another altogether. Be careful!

Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

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Yes, I am willingly blind to the content of the multiple links you continually try to send me to.

I haven't sent you anything. And yes, you are willfully blind to the publicly accessible information that I have referred to. More than that, no one doubts that you're proud of being a mousey Seventh-day Adventist.

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For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Everyone should think that they're better than those sanctimonious enablers of genocide.

And there's nothing sober about refusing to understand the Spirit of prophecy:

"Remember that to cause a suspicion or a reproach to rest upon the cause of God is a terrible thing. It is crucifying the Son of God afresh, and putting him to open shame before his enemies. Those who do this are without excuse, and their course will stand against them in the day of reckoning." Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, November 4, 1884, paragraph 13.


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« Reply #18 on: Sat Oct 20, 2018 - 11:47:50 »
I leave you to your petty judgments, and cause.

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« Reply #19 on: Sat Oct 20, 2018 - 11:54:20 »
Where's the soberness in willful blindness?

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I leave you to your petty judgments, and cause.

Where's the sobriety in calling the Spirit of prophecy petty?

If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God.  {3T 280.3} 

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Where's the sobriety in calling the Spirit of prophecy petty?

If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God.  {3T 280.3}

I called your judgments petty, not your cause or the spirit of prophecy. I do not consider other of the latter petty. You have misjudged once again.

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« Reply #22 on: Sat Oct 20, 2018 - 13:11:35 »
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Yes, I am willingly blind

There's no need to pride yourself with just one quality. You are willfully blind, untaught and ineducable.

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I called your judgments petty

Yet you confess to being willfully blind. Consequently, you have no fear of God and have no respect for Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment.

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« Reply #24 on: Sun Oct 21, 2018 - 12:04:25 »
Yet you confess to being willfully blind. Consequently, you have no fear of God and have no respect for Christ's command to judge with a righteous judgment.

More petty judgments. Go to, be someone else's god, you are not mine. Rave on.

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These are the greatest and most fundamental errors of Seventh-day Adventists:

1. Seventh-day Adventists don't care about the rights of victims, justice or free speech, unless Satan's unrestrained power of evil impacts their own personal right to keep the Sabbath.

2. Seventh-day Adventists are fanatically obsessed with their belief about their own suffering in the future and don’t care about how their indifference contributes to the suffering of others now.

I wish to thank my critics and detractors for proving these accusations to be true.

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« Reply #26 on: Sun Oct 28, 2018 - 08:04:28 »
These are the greatest and most fundamental errors of Seventh-day Adventists:

1. Seventh-day Adventists don't care about the rights of victims, justice or free speech, unless Satan's unrestrained power of evil impacts their own personal right to keep the Sabbath.

2. Seventh-day Adventists are fanatically obsessed with their belief about their own suffering in the future and don’t care about how their indifference contributes to the suffering of others now.

3. Their souls delight in their abominations.
I might have agreed with you had you preceded your statements with "Some".  I believe there are many SDAs that would give up their lives for their fellow man just as Jesus did for you and me.

The fundamental errors errors of SDAs are that the Sabbath is a salvational issue, the IJ, that somehow the old covenant 10 commandments are Christians guide to a righteous life and their false interpretation of James concerning works.   

They also add to scripture by believing they had a prophet that was able to interpret scripture.   One blatant error is adding a 10 before commandments in the New Testament.   Then they have a guy by the name of Blanco that took upon himself to change the "errors" in the Bible with Ellen's interpretations making it so convenient for the brethren to know the "truth"

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I might have agreed with you had you preceded your statements with "Some".  I believe there are many SDAs that would give up their lives for their fellow man just as Jesus did for you and me.

Why is it that none of them have a web presence that reveal a Christian witness concerning real crises in the world going on now? I don't deny that many Seventh-day Adventists are ready to die in a fight against the tyranny of Sunday Laws, whereas very few care about the tyranny going on now in the SDA church and none seem to be aware of the tyranny going on outside the church and the contribution to that evil by the SDA church.

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Why is it that none of them have a web presence that reveal a Christian witness concerning real crises in the world going on now? I don't deny that many Seventh-day Adventists are ready to die in a fight against the tyranny of Sunday Laws, whereas very few care about the tyranny going on now in the SDA church and none seem to be aware of the tyranny going on outside the church and the contribution to that evil by the SDA church.
Many SDAs acknowledge that Ellen White was not what the church has made her out to be.  From what I gather you have never come to that conclusion, so we see her influence in what you write.   What is the "real crisis" going on now?

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We see her influence in what you write.   What is the "real crisis" going on now?

Thank you. I don't believe in any coming persecution from a national Sunday law. What I believe is that all the crises referenced at http://everythingimportant.org/Laodicea/ are real.

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Thank you. I don't believe in any coming persecution from a national Sunday law. What I believe is that all the crises referenced at http://everythingimportant.org/Laodicea/ are real.
Do you really expect me to read through, excuse my French, that bunch of garbage to try to find out what you proclaimed?  Just give me some simple examples of the crisis you are alluding.

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Do you really expect me to read through, excuse my French, that bunch of garbage to try to find out what you proclaimed?  Just give me some simple examples of the crisis you are alluding.

Your confusion is understandable.  I keep referring to crises (plural) but you can only comprehend a single crisis (singular).

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Your confusion is understandable.  I keep referring to crises (plural) but you can only comprehend a single crisis (singular).
Oh thanks for nothing.

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Do you really expect me to read through, excuse my French, that bunch of garbage to try to find out what you proclaimed?

Superficial minds are satisfied with few lines and judge from that. Case in point. Jesus, however, requires that we judge with a righteous judgment.


 

     
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