author=RB link=topic=105259.msg1055155658#msg1055155658 date=1580758160]
Are you drunk? What does Hebrews 13:1,2 have to do with my question to you?
Your question. "You said God calls ALL to repentance and then quoted a scripture where it PLAINLY said that MANY are called! So which is it?"
In your religion, would God call the angels that dwell among us, that we can not discern are angels?
2 Cor. 11:13 For such are false apostles
, deceitful workers
, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness
; whose end shall be according to their works.
In your religion, would God call these folks? Of course not. Abraham was not part of this group.
Therefore "Many" are called.
I said: AS ALWAYS~This along with so many other of your "small circle of scriptures" that you use are not even related to the topic at hand.
You say a lot of things Red. I don't discard any scriptures because they all teach the same thing. "If you do well, shall you not be accepted".
I would expect this from grammar school children learning how to debate, but not from men/women who think they know. I said to you: And you came back with these words? AFTER I quoted Why did you NOT addressed THESE scriptures from Paul and let us ALL see just who you are truly following?
Paul isn't saying anything here that He didn't say in the scriptures I posted, or in any of his teaching. Nor is he twisting Isaiah's Words from which he found this quote, to contradict the teaching of Isaiah.
Paul believed in "ALL" that Isaiah said, from his own admission. And Isaiah word's crush modern religious doctrines and traditions, and exposes them as the doctrines and traditions of men they are.
So you are free to pick and choose then twist Isaiah's word's and Paul's words in order to promote your religion, just as the mainstream preachers of Jesus' time used scriptures to justify their lifestyle.
But Paul never engaged in such activity. Just as he never called God's Commandments "Beggarly Elements".
These are your religious traditions.
You said: It is clear to any HONEST and SINCERE lover of the truth who is following whom! The word of God said to be angry AND SIN NOT~just as Jesus was angry and overthrew the tables of the money changer and drove them out of the temple of God~so I'm I toward those who labor to pervert the gospel of my Lord Jesus Christ! A Holy angry spirit is being Christ-like. I evidently shook you up somewhat because of your strange response back using scriptures that had no bearing on what was being addressed!
No Red, LOL, you didn't "shake me up". I just know why Jesus said "Many" are called. And "many" come in His Name to deceive, and "many" call Him Lord, Lord, but consider His Word's "Beggarly Elements", and "Many" are on the path to destruction.
God also called "MANY" in Abraham's time as HE is no respecter of persons. That is why it is written; "Today, if you hear HIS Voice, harden not your hearts". Abraham was called by God's Grace, and Abraham humbled Himself to God's calling. The men of Sodom, not so much.
And it is "BECAUSE" of this "work" that Abraham was blessed, by God's Own Word's.
Gen. 22:10 And Abraham stretched forth his hand, and took the knife to slay his son.
11 And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God
, (BECAUSE) seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me
So now that I have these examples God had written for my admonition;
Heb. 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside
every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us
, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
Jesus doesn't run the race for me Red. At least not the Jesus of the Bible.
2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith
; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame
, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Notice he doesn't say "Looking unto the Great Religious Philosophers and Religious Theologians of the world."
My disagreement with you is founded 100% in the scriptures. They teach one thing, and you teach another. I have laid before me a choice, life or death, as God laid before Eve and Abraham. God, in HIS Tender Mercy instructed, pleaded, asked me to choose Life of my own accord. Why??? Because God renderers to each man according to his works.
Matt. 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Job. 34:10 Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness
; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.
11 For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways
. 12 Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.
2 Cor. 5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ
; that every one may receive the things done in his body
, according to that he hath done
, whether it be good or bad.
1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. 17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work
, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Psalms 62:11 God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God. 12 Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work
Prov. 24:12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works
Col. 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; 24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance
: for ye serve the Lord Christ
. 25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done
: and there is no respect of persons
1 Cor. 3:8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.
This is the Biblical Truth from the very beginning of God's Word, "If you do well, shall you not be accepted", to the very End of God's Word.
Rev. 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
The serpent convinced EVE that she was already saved, already given eternal life and that her "works" had nothing to do with her salvation.
It was a lie when the serpent told it, and it's still a lie when you teach it. Not because I say so, but because God says so over and over and over and over and over and over.
Today if you hear HIS Voice, Harden not your hearts. Be a Nicodemus Red. "Come out of her".