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Quote from: Beta on Wed Oct 26, 2011 - 08:05:11

Quote from: INJ on Tue Oct 25, 2011 - 15:00:34
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit. We are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

Even simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

We are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

And how do we know we have the Spirit of God ?
Acts 5v32, Heb.5v9 explain : when we are obedient to God.

And how do we show our love to God ?
1Joh.5v3 this is the love of God that we keep his Commandments...
1Jon.2v4 he that says 'I know him and keeps not his Commandments is a liar and the truth is not in him.

Both points you raised have scriptural answers that make clear what God wants .
Anyone doing the Will of God is not condemned. Simple !

very very simple

and she told me how to do it.

Quote from: Memphis Dwight on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:17:08
Read the bible, believe the bible, and be baptized. 

MD

is it this simple, look at all the denominations we have and Paul said this

Romans 10



8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed?

and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard?

and how shall they hear without a preacher?

15And how shall they preach, except they be sent?

as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


who believes the report?
where is the preacher
faith comes by hearing the word of God.

XMAS is fast approaching most people know Xmas has nothing to do with Jesus but they attach his name to it.

who believes the report?

they can't read Jesus was born on December 25
yet they associate His name with it.


can't read it in the bible
they beleive it even though its not in the bible

would they get baptize in the name of Jesus who is associated with Xmas?

   

Romans 10

16But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?


Jeremiah 10
1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.



2 Corinthians 11:4
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Quote from: jojo50 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 - 15:32:39

Quote from: howard on Mon Oct 24, 2011 - 08:05:30

responding to the topic, i'm not serving Jesus, bcause Jesus NEVER taught ANYONE to serve him. Jesus said he teach what his Father wants him to,(John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you).

also to serve one is to do their will,Jesus even said it's NOT his will he's doing ,(John 5:30 -I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me).

so all that Jesus taught was what his Father wanted him to teach. which mean WE... are to serve ONLY his Father, Jesus said so! (Matt.7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven).  and 

(Matt.12:50-For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother).

Jesus showed only those acknowledging his Father,were sent to Jesus.
(John 6:44,45- No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me).

Jesus words shows...we must know  AND learn about his Father. though many are teaching falsely to serve Jesus. those who say they serve him, really is ignoring his words. i believe Jesus, and HIS teachings, instead of what any "church" leader wants me to believe. any who says i'm wrong for NOT serving Jesus. needs to take it to him, because he told us who to serve...his Father. peace

Jesus said this in the flesh

John 12:26
If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.


Jesus said this before he came in the flesh


Genesis 26:24
And the LORD appeared unto him the same night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy father: fear not, for I am with thee, and will bless thee, and multiply thy seed for my servant Abraham's sake.


Numbers 12:7
My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house.


2 Samuel 7:5
Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the LORD, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?


keep in mind


1.Acts 10:34
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible?  
[/quote]

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many superior attitudes in yours my friend.  

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17:16

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible? 

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

1 Corinthians 9

23And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

24Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

25And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

26I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

27But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Paul had to being his body under subjection  so he won't be a castaway.

Paul had to continually run so he obtain a incorruptible crown

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17:16

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible? 

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

With all due respect Howard....go and judge yourself. 

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 12:12:08

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17:16

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible? 

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

With all due respect Howard....go and judge yourself. 

I have

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

so with all due respect inj

i assume you cannot answer the questions

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 11:23:11

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 12:12:08

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17:16

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible? 

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

With all due respect Howard....go and judge yourself. 

I have

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

so with all due respect inj

i assume you cannot answer the questions

Of course I can answer the questions. But as you appear to be acting pios rather than having a debate. I choose not to. As there would be no point.

2 Peter 1

18And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Quote from: INJ on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 18:38:59

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Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

Quote from: INJ on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 10:17:16

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 09:16:19

Quoteauthor=INJ link=topic=58777.msg1054628802#msg1054628802 date=1319572834]
Simply put. We know we are serving Jesus when we know we are being led of the spirit after being born again of Gods spirit.

the Word says

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

can I try your spirit since you know? How do I know you are led by the spirit of God when the Word says that another Jesus is among us?

What are you talking about? You the post asked a simple question. I gave a simple answer.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

1 Jn 2:27

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and you know all things.

1 Jn 2:20

If we have the Holy Spirit he himself will lead us into truth. This is in conjunction with the word of God. We know that we know.

QuoteWe are no longer using human reasoning but trusting in Gods character, Gods word and want to be with others who love God the same way.

what is God character where is it written in the bible?  

God's character is seen in the whole of the bible. It is seen in his interactions with creation. The creation testifies of him. It is seen in his covenants. It is seen in his name and word...


Do you want to know more about God? These 20 Bible facts about God will give you insight into the nature and character of God.

God is eternal.
(Deuteronomy 33:27; Jeremiah 10:10; Psalm 90:2)
God is infinite.
(1 Kings 8:22-27; Jeremiah 23:24; Psalm 102:25-27; Revelation 22:13)
God is self-sufficient and self-existent.
(Exodus 3:13-14; Psalm 50:10-12; Colossians 1:16)
God is omnipresent (present everywhere).
(Psalm 139:7-12)
God is omnipotent (all powerful).
(Genesis 18:14; Luke 18:27; Revelation 19:6)
God is omniscient (all knowing).
(Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)
God is unchanging or immutable.
(Psalm 102:25-27; Hebrews 1:10-12; 13:8)
God is sovereign.
(2 Samuel 7:22; Isaiah 46:9-11)
God is wise.
(Proverbs 3:19; Romans 16:26-27; 1 Timothy 1:17)
God is holy.
(Leviticus 19:2; 1 Peter 1:15)
God is righteous and just.
(Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 11:7; Psalm 119:137)
God is faithful.
(Deuteronomy 7:9; Psalm 89:1-8)
God is true and truth.
(Psalm 31:5; John 14:6; John 17:3; Titus 1:1-2)
God is good.
(Psalm 25:8; Psalm 34:8; Mark 10:18)
God is merciful.
(Deuteronomy 4:31; Psalm 103:8-17; Daniel 9:9; Hebrews 2:17)
God is gracious.
(Exodus 34:6; Psalm 103:8; 1 Peter 5:10)
God is love.
(John 3:16; Romans 5:8; 1 John 4:8)
God is spirit.
(John 4:24)
God is light.
(James 1:17; 1 John 1:5)
God is triune or trinity.
(Matthew 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14)

Simply if you see Jesus or know him you will see or know the heavenly father (God)

QuoteEven simpler, we love God if we love. Especially those fellow believers who love God. But also love their enemies, praying for those who persecute them.

what is this love you speak of how do we beleivers know we love God and other where is the proof?

Simply do to others that you would want done to yourself. Which is the Royal Law of love in sceptre. Laying down your life for others, as Jesus did. Our proof is in action.

QuoteWe are transformed, by the renewing of our minds, become thankful forever more.

show me the verses on hoiw to renew our mind?

2And be not conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.

Quote
HOW?

Learning through the word of God through studying and instruction of the Spirit of God.

Quote
to many holes inyour post.

Too many

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

With all due respect Howard....go and judge yourself.  

I have

John 7:24
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

so with all due respect inj

i assume you cannot answer the questions

Of course I can answer the questions. But as you appear to be acting pios rather than having a debate. I choose not to. As there would be no point.

quit making excuses and answer.

where do you make this judgement of me concerning piou?

is it because I don't beleive in what you are saying?

would you rather for me to cuss, lie and rabble rouse? 

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

This is not what God has commanded concerning testing the spirits.

1 John 4:1-8, paraphrased...

Don't Believe Everything You Hear

My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

Here's how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ—the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person—comes from God and belongs to God. And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world's language and the world eats it up. But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:00:51

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

This is not what God has commanded concerning testing the spirits.

1 John 4:1-8, paraphrased...

Don't Believe Everything You Hear

My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

Here's how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ—the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person—comes from God and belongs to God. And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world's language and the world eats it up. But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

Manna to you Lively, for being kind, sensitive and wise.

Many people could learn a lot from you if they had ears to hear. 

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:00:51

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

This is not what God has commanded concerning testing the spirits.

1 John 4:1-8, paraphrased...

Don't Believe Everything You Hear

My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

Here's how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ—the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person—comes from God and belongs to God. And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world's language and the world eats it up. But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

oh yes this is.

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word

in a week or two we will be HEARING eveything chirstmas

in a few months we will be HEARING eveything about easter

every sunday and every day we hear people speaking abot love ones wicked or righteous in heaven

every sunday and every day we hear about a wicked father or uncle burning in hell with satan.

you have to hear false doctrine in order to try it.   

what are the words of a evil spirit, evil words.

try it to see if it is from God.

is christmas from God
is easter from God
is going to heaven from God
is going to hell burning now from God

if so show me the spirit of truth put the verses

 

Quote from: INJ on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:49:41

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:00:51

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

This is not what God has commanded concerning testing the spirits.

1 John 4:1-8, paraphrased...

Don't Believe Everything You Hear

My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

Here's how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ—the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person—comes from God and belongs to God. And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world's language and the world eats it up. But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

Manna to you Lively, for being kind, sensitive and wise.

Many people could learn a lot from you if they had ears to hear. 

Wow! Thank you for that blessing, INJ!

John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on dec 25th

show me where Jesus was born on dec 25th?

I always heard Jesus died good friday and rose early easter sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died friday and rose easter sunday morning?

I laways heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:03:44

Quote from: INJ on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:49:41

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 19:00:51

Quote from: howard on Thu Oct 27, 2011 - 11:33:06

let me try your spirit as the Lord commanded

do you observe CHRIST MASS?
do you observe Easter?
do you believe man goes to heaven?
do you believe man goes to hell after death?
how  many spirits are there in God's word?

This is not what God has commanded concerning testing the spirits.

1 John 4:1-8, paraphrased...

Don't Believe Everything You Hear

My dear friends, don't believe everything you hear. Carefully weigh and examine what people tell you. Not everyone who talks about God comes from God. There are a lot of lying preachers loose in the world.

Here's how you test for the genuine Spirit of God. Everyone who confesses openly his faith in Jesus Christ—the Son of God, who came as an actual flesh-and-blood person—comes from God and belongs to God. And everyone who refuses to confess faith in Jesus has nothing in common with God. This is the spirit of antichrist that you heard was coming. Well, here it is, sooner than we thought!

My dear children, you come from God and belong to God. You have already won a big victory over those false teachers, for the Spirit in you is far stronger than anything in the world. These people belong to the Christ-denying world. They talk the world's language and the world eats it up. But we come from God and belong to God. Anyone who knows God understands us and listens. The person who has nothing to do with God will, of course, not listen to us. This is another test for telling the Spirit of Truth from the spirit of deception.

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

Manna to you Lively, for being kind, sensitive and wise.

Many people could learn a lot from you if they had ears to hear. 

Wow! Thank you for that blessing, INJ!

wow! now that we know he can bless lets see if he can answer questions.

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:04:17
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on dec 25th

show me where Jesus was born on dec 25th?

I always heard Jesus died good friday and rose early easter sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died friday and rose easter sunday morning?

I laways heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Forget it howard. You are barking up the wrong tree. You do not test the spirits in that way. Do you think evil spirits will submit to your questions? Neither will the spirit of God in a person, because we see you may have some personal pride in trying to catch an evil spirit, yet all you can do in such queries is catch a person who may be ignorant of the word.

Not gonna do it!

God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

what is this love we are to continue in?

how do we do this.

are you sure God is Love, because I also can read that God can hate.

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:05:46

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:04:17
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on dec 25th

show me where Jesus was born on dec 25th?

I always heard Jesus died good friday and rose early easter sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died friday and rose easter sunday morning?

I laways heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Forget it howard. You are barking up the wrong tree.

I understand, lets forget it.

because I tried your spirit I barked up the right tree.

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:07:43
God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

what is this love we are to continue in?

how do we do this.

are you sure God is Love, because I also can read that God can hate.

But God is not hate, is He? Now, are you sure you believe what he says of Himself?

1 John 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:09:19

Quote from: Lively Stone on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:05:46

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:04:17
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on dec 25th

show me where Jesus was born on dec 25th?

I always heard Jesus died good friday and rose early easter sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died friday and rose easter sunday morning?

I laways heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Forget it howard. You are barking up the wrong tree.

I understand, lets forget it.

because I tried your spirit I barked up the right tree.

What does that mean to you? I am so used to being insulted around here, that I have no idea whether you are doing that or not.

Dear brother Howard,
You are correct when you say, "Jesus has something he wants us to do and it is his will that we do it.

Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:07:43
God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

what is this love we are to continue in?

how do we do this.

are you sure God is Love, because I also can read that God can hate.

Howard I have already tested your spirit, and I would rather not talk to it anymore. God is Love, and in him is not darkness at all.

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

(NKJV)
8 He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 1 John 4:8

We are meant to provoke one another to love and good deeds my friend. Your attitude is one of delusion, we test by the word of God, and by the spirit of decrement not dates of Christmas.

QuoteHoward I have already tested your spirit, and I would rather not talk to it anymore. God is Love, and in him is not darkness at all.

and I yours and you need to ask the Lord for understanding God is Love like I said but God is hate also.

lets read it so you can get some understanding about the God Jesus

Psalm 139
21Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

22I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

23Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:

Zechariah 8

16These are the things that ye shall do; Speak ye every man the truth to his neighbour; execute the judgment of truth and peace in your gates:

17And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.


Isaiah 61:8
For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.

Proverbs 8:13
The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogance, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

all over the bible the Lord tells you that he hates again i go back and read the words again,

QuoteThis then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

lets read some more of the chapter and again I will try your spirit, keep reading you stop at verse 5 read verse 6 to the end of the chapter. those who don't sin and walk in God's words walk in the light and he is a light unto them they that walk in darkness and sin is he light unto them or he is darkness?[ /color]

notice John uses the word IF, so if you don't walk in light what is the other side to it 


1 John 1
1That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

2(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

3That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

4And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

5This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

6If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

8If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


now lets look at a side of God though righteous, but far from love to those who don't obey

Proverbs 8:36
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.

Psalm 119:104
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.

Psalm 119:113
I hate vain thoughts: but thy law do I love.

2 Samuel 22:41
Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies, that I might destroy them that hate me.

Matthew 22:

12And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

13Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  

14For many are called, but few are chosen.

look what the God of love did

here is another


Matthew 25

31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35For I was an hundred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hundred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42For I was an hundred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hundred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

God is love but who ever taught you be it mom or pastor or denomination did not show you the other side of God

God hates also. God hate because he has a cause. The cause is due to wickedness and sin

QuoteWe are meant to provoke one another to love and good deeds my friend. Your attitude is one of delusion, we test by the word of God, and by the spirit of decrement not dates of Christmas.

most people don't know what love is and I'm talking about Godly love so how can you provoke someone to do something they know nothing about, this saying of your is ludacris.

when the people start posting or speaking about christmas in a week or so they will associate Jesus in it your spirit will be tested at that time, what will you say? will you tell them Jesus has nothing to to with it or will you go along with it? you will go along with it!!!   

Quote from: thefixer on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 21:02:42
Dear brother Howard,
You are correct when you say, "Jesus has something he wants us to do and it is his will that we do it.

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John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on dec 25th

show me where Jesus was born on dec 25th?

I always heard Jesus died good friday and rose early easter sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died friday and rose easter sunday morning?

I laways heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Forget it howard. You are barking up the wrong tree.

I understand, lets forget it.

because I tried your spirit I barked up the right tree.

What does that mean to you? I am so used to being insulted around here, that I have no idea whether you are doing that or not.

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Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:04:17
John 6:63
It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus words are spirit.

let me try your words to see if they are spirit

I always heard Jesus was born on DEC 25Th

show me where Jesus was born on DEC 25Th?

I always heard Jesus died good Friday and rose early Easter Sunday morning

show me Jesus where Jesus died Friday and rose Easter Sunday morning?

I always heard that people go to heaven with the Father and Jesus

show me where man is in heaven the 3rd heaven where the Father and Jesus are?

let me try your spirit.

 

Forget it howard. You are barking up the wrong tree.

I understand, lets forget it.

because I tried your spirit I barked up the right tree.

What does that mean to you? I am so used to being insulted around here, that I have no idea whether you are doing that or not.

first and foremost I am not here to insult people including you.

we are to grow in grace and knowledge of Jesus, in other words we all are still learning.

if people keep Xmas and associated it with Jesus is this the spirit of truth or the spirit of error?

if people keep good Friday to Easter Sunday morning and associated it wit Jesus is this the spirit of truth or the spirit of error?

 
if they do is this the spirit of truth or the spirit of error?

1 John 4:6
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

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Quote from: howard on Sat Oct 29, 2011 - 20:07:43
God Is Love
My beloved friends, let us continue to love each other since love comes from God. Everyone who loves is born of God and experiences a relationship with God. The person who refuses to love doesn't know the first thing about God, because God is love—so you can't know him if you don't love.

what is this love we are to continue in?

how do we do this.

are you sure God is Love, because I also can read that God can hate.

But God is not hate, is He? Now, are you sure you believe what he says of Himself?

1 John 4:16
And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.

God can hate he is not hate

you read it for yourself

Proverbs 6

16These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

here is Jesus speaking by the mouth of David

Psalm 139:21
Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

Psalm 139:22
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

Ecclesiastes 3:8
A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

God can hate and it those who don't do what he says

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Quote from: howard on Sun Oct 30, 2011 - 07:50:26

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

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Quote from: howard on Sun Oct 30, 2011 - 07:50:26

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

In the scriptures its written in Leviticus 24:22 - Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God No law, no need to go to church, its in the law (commandments), even on the wrong day of the week Sunday!

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Quote from: howard on Sun Oct 30, 2011 - 07:50:26

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

In the scriptures its written in Leviticus 24:22 - Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God No law, no need to go to church, its in the law (commandments), even on the wrong day of the week Sunday!

"No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse.  And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. Otherwise, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. No, they pour new wine into new wineskins". (Mark 2: 21,22)

Quote from: howard on Sun Oct 30, 2011 - 07:50:26

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

I am with you in all this howard but remember :
if they don't hear God or Jesus they certainly won't hear you or me !
They are following a wrong Jesus ....an imposter who for them rose on easter-sunday. The true Jesus was in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights as HE himself predicted and ' rose according to scripture in the end of the Sabbath.....not according to human reasoning which is 'glaringly false.
This world remains 'deceived until satan is cast into the abyss at the end of this evil age ...that he should deceive the nations no more.

And scripture can not be broken !

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Quote from: howard on Sun Oct 30, 2011 - 07:50:26

Jesus custom was to keep the 7th day sabbath

Luke 4

15And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.

17And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,

are you sure you are following the Jesus who kept the 7th day sabbath?

Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath because he was a JEW.  We are Christians saved by God's Grace--we live by
the Spirit, not by the Law.

Are you saying that Jesus' Spirit was 'lawless and not obedient to God his Father ?
You are going against scripture my friend. Jesus kept his Fathers Commandments which include sabbath-keeping. Not only because he was a Jew but because the sabbath was made for man way before any mention of Jews.
Jesus is still Lord of the Sabbath in the NT for us today...his Spirit is eternal.