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heaven and earth

Started by Happy22, Mon Aug 12, 2013 - 22:10:41

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Happy22

Let's look at the use of "heaven and earth" in Scripture and see if they have some other meaning besides the literal physical heavens and earth. If you want to know what a term means in the New Testament, you need to go back to the Old Testament and see what it meant there. If it was used a certain way in the Old Testament, wouldn't it make sense that Jesus and the New Testament writer would use those expressions in the same way? We must get our understanding of "heaven and earth" from the Old Testament:

Deuteronomy 31:30 (NKJV) Then Moses spoke in the hearing of all the assembly of Israel the words of this song until they were ended: 32:1 "Give ear, O heavens, and I will speak; And hear, O earth, the words of my mouth.

Who is God talking to here? In the song of Moses, God is speaking to Israel. He calls them, "O heavens," and, "O earth." He is clearly not speaking to the physical heavens and earth, but to Israel. Notice what he says to them in:

Deuteronomy 32:22 (NKJV) For a fire is kindled by my anger, And shall burn to the lowest hell; It shall consume the earth with her increase, And set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

God is not talking here about burning up the physical earth. God is using apocalyptic and symbolic language to warn Israel of judgement that He will bring upon them. When Israel is finally destroyed, it is as though heaven and earth are burned up.

In biblical apocalyptic language, "heavens" refers to governments and rulers, and "earth" refers to the nation of people. This can be seen in the book of Isaiah:

Isaiah 1:1-2 (NKJV) The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. 2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth! For the LORD has spoken: "I have nourished and brought up children, And they have rebelled against Me

Happy22

 The term heaven and earth often refers to the relationship between God and man.

  Until our spiritual minds are able to grasp the truth that the body of Christ is the temple of God and that every room and mansion in that temple is a living son of God, a literal habitation for God through the Spirit; and until we understand that the city of God is the bride of Christ, and that the stones of that city are all living stones, as Christ Jesus Himself is a living stone and the only foundation that can be laid, we have understood nothing at all.

The book of Revelation shows the development of this Bride-City from glory to glory. Each view is a fresh and further comprehension of the grandeur of the purposes of God for all who are called to the High Calling of God in Christ Jesus. The total victory for all the elect is detailed in all its glorious and eternal reality. This is the beauty of the Church Triumphant! This is that glorious church that is without spot or wrinkle. It is so great and mighty! It stands in the age and the ages to come clothed in the awesome majesty of the glory of the Almighty! It is seen in all of its splendor and heavenly beauty. It was birthed into the earth at Pentecost and has been processed and matured during the 2,000 year church age. It comes into its final divine perfection and is viewed in the ultimate eternal triumph and purpose of God. Thus we see that the New Jerusalem, contrary to the driveling childishness that is taught, is not a fanciful monstrosity some fifteen hundred miles high, which will one day come floating or crashing down out of the clouds to settle and rest on the earth like a bump on a little boy's head, throwing it out of balance and off its course. God made this earth complete and as it should be long, long ago. He created it a perfectly functioning reality, and "nothing can be put to it, nor anything taken from it" (Eccl. 3:14).

Truly, unspiritual men, who walk after the flesh and its imaginings, can invent many fairy tales. Thus saith the Lord: "And they shall call THEM, the HOLY PEOPLE, the redeemed of the Lord; and THOU shalt be called, Sought Out, a CITY not forsaken". It is evident that a PEOPLE are the CITY. There can be no doubt that the city in Revelation is not a literal city, but rather those who have adorned themselves with the very nature, the very qualities, that their Husband requires. Those qualities are the very characteristics, the very nature of God. "But ye are come unto mount Zion and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem...to the general assembly and church of the firstborn". The message is clear — the bride doesn't live IN the city: the bride IS the city! To that city we have come. It has come down into our hearts; day by day we walk its streets; we live in its light, we breathe its atmosphere, we enjoy its rights.

But you have come to Mount Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly,  Hebrews 12:22

Happy22

Conceived at Pentecost, born in A.D. 70. The church was in the womb of its mother, Israel, until it was born. 40 weeks is a pregnancy period. The church was birthed 40 years later in A.D. 70. in great tribulation. The Temple bride is destroyed in the birth event just as Rachel died in the tribulation of childbirth. That A.D. 70 birth is a Rachel birth event where Rachel died in great tribulation giving birth to a son she named Benoni (son of my Tribulation); after she died, Jacob then changed his named to Benjamin (son of my Right hand). There is much to be known by understanding this but very few know God and so very few understand.

Understand also that Jerusalem above is out mother and we are her children. As individuals we are children of God but as a unified whole, we are the body and bride of Christ. To be HIS body means we are HIS bride since a bride's body belongs to the husband, they being one flesh. Unlike Eve who came first and then had many children, we children of God come first and are fitted together to make one Temple, the Bride of Christ, the New Eve. It is a reversal of reality. Think of the cross like a mirror reversing everything from God to Adam to Eve to many children. Now many children to Church to Christ to God.

One Bride Eve>>>Many Children of Adam out of One Bride>>>Cross<<<Many Children of God into the one Bride<<<New Eve
Time------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->>>

Eve makes many children. Now many children make the New Eve. It is reversed. Jesus recapitulated everything.

God made Adam
One Bride (Eve) OUT OF the Old Adam.
One Body; 2 become 1
Many Children OUT OF the One Bride (Eve)
The Children
Many Children fitted together made INTO the One Bride of Christ (New Eve)
One Body: 2 become 1
One Bride (church) INTO the New Adam. <--- Purpose of the Lord's Supper. One bread to make one body, one bride.
And Christ into God.

So that God may be all in all.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Yes, indeed.

A study of the artifacts and symbols used by the Israelites after they came out of Egypt shows that they are all modeled on things in the heavens.

WorldWithoutEnd

These two passages evoke images of Israel's crossing of the Red Sea and God's covenant with them:

But I am the LORD thy God, that divided the sea, whose waves roared: The LORD of hosts is his name. And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

Isaiah 51:15-16

Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.

Jeremiah 31:35-36

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