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Hmmm....

I would think if I ever got that message I would be gone from here.  I know a couple of the mods seem to have a real problem with either me or my beliefs.   (or both)

I would assume it was a real ban.
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ETA:

I see this was separated into a separate thread.

To explain what I was talking about here - (from the original thread) - Snargles got an automated  message (due to some problematic cookies on his comp) that his account had been permanently deleted. Apparently it was fixed when he deleted cookies.  That is the message I refer to above.

Quote from: DaveW on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 05:20:40
Hmmm....

I would think if I ever got that message I would be gone from here.  I know a couple of the mods seem to have a real problem with either me or my beliefs.   (or both)

I would assume it was a real ban.

Dave,

Being annoyingly Jewish isn't against the rules here.
If that were the case you woulda been gone forever ago.

Messianic Judaism is a unique denomination and we are happy to have you here as a member.

So quit being paranoid. ...or else.   

QuoteSo quit being paranoid. ...or else.   

 
No it is not you.

But there are a couple of mods who have accused me of saying things I have not said and even put me on moderation once when I questioned the accusation.

That is not being paranoid.

Quote from: DaveW on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 06:28:05

QuoteSo quit being paranoid. ...or else.   

 
No it is not you.

But there are a couple of mods who have accused me of saying things I have not said and even put me on moderation once when I questioned the accusation.

That is not being paranoid.

Dave, for the record, you have never been put on moderation.  You were never even put on our watch list.  Looking at your history you were given a small warning once for violating two separate rules.  That warning was removed when you corrected the situation.

Please do not falsely accuse any of the moderators of placing you on moderation for personal reasons when you were never even placed on moderation.

Quote from: BondServant on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 07:10:51
Dave, for the record, you have never been put on moderation.  You were never even put on our watch list.  Looking at your history you were given a small warning once for violating two separate rules.  That warning was removed when you corrected the situation.

Please do not falsely accuse any of the moderators of placing you on moderation for personal reasons when you were never even placed on moderation.

OK - but that is not how I read the message. (specifically the removing message 2 hours later) It sounded to me like I had been put on full moderation and then taken off.

Do I have permission to post the contents of the PM?  Since it was signed "Message Board Team" I  cannot ask an individual.

The PM you received was a template, or form letter.  It has nothing to do with how much your warning was increased or what level you are on.  You can see your own warning history, as well as what level you are currently on in your profile.  If you go look you will see the warning you received was the lightest possible warning applied.  You will also see that you were never even on the watch list, let alone moderation.  If you have more questions on how the warning system works, please do not hesitate to send me a PM.

PS.  I split this off the "I am Banned" thread so as not to hijack it.

Ah - I see.  It was the e-version of a form letter.  OK I can accept that.

And I do admit to double posting on something that was very exciting to me.

That was my bad.

But Bond - you still own me an explanation/clarification/answer  for what you said I did in the halloween thread ..... (posts #132, 134)

Quote from: DaveW on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 08:12:05
Ah - I see.  It was the e-version of a form letter.  OK I can accept that.

And I do admit to double posting on something that was very exciting to me.

That was my bad.

But Bond - you still own me an explanation/clarification/answer  for what you said I did in the halloween thread ..... (posts #132, 134)

So that was this was all about?  You were comparing a warning you received over a month ago to an exchange you and I had a few days ago? 

For the record you did not receive any warning on that topic, nor have I taken any action against you for that exchange, nor will I ever take any action against you based on our personal interaction.

If you have any other issues with me as an individual, please send me a PM so we can work it out privately.

Thank you.

I am not bringing a charge against you.  It was a friendly reminder. I trust it will be taken as such.

And yes - it did look to me like the 2 instances may have been related. (due at least in part to my not understanding the form-letter nature of the pm)

As to bringing a charge against a mod or admin, I kinda look at it like Paul said to do with elders (since in this on-line "congregation" you all function in a similar capacity) that it takes 2 or 3 witnesses to make a valid accusation. (1 Timothy 5:19)

That is why I wanted solid direction on the whole process including the appeals. I was not then nor am I now at that point; but if the pattern that I perceived was continued and/or escalated, I wanted to know the route to take to remedy that.

But if, in the middle of this, I had received that same message Snargles got; I would have taken it as you all's final decision and would not have questioned it at all.

I hope that makes sense to you.

Actually, it does not make sense.  There are a couple of flaws in your theory:

1) You admitted that you violated the rules that prompted the warning.

2) The rule violations happened well before you and I interacted in the thread in question.  If my memory is correct, we only began interacting recently, well after the warning was issued.

3) Once the violations were corrected, the warning was removed and you are currently at 0%.

Again, if you have issues with me, or anything I have done, please send me a PM so we can work it out privately.

Bond,


Dave is annoyingly Jewish in behavior...very annoyingly Jewish.


and what you are seeing is that annoying Jewish behavior coming out in him.


Yes, its annoying but it is better than some of the other characters we get around here.


His paranoia is just one facet of being annoyingly Jewish.

JohnDB,

What a great post from you showing the best of Moderator behavior.

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 10:29:45
JohnDB,

What a great post from you showing the best of Moderator behavior.

Coming from a man who likes to tie a bow tie with the line of acceptable behavior I take that as a compliment.





But everyone is annoying...I even annoy myself. It doesn't mean that we don't like you or anything like that. We very much love everyone who is a regular member of this forum including all of their odd behaviors that come with them.

DaveW can be awful annoying the way he ties every thing in the NT to a Jewish practice but on the other hand, he has explained a whole lot of obscure (to me at least) cultural stuff that we can't understand from a 21st century American POV. If we put everything in the NT in the proper 1st century Jewish or Greco-Roman culture we would understand scripture better.

I second that. He makes some valuable contributions to the discussions.

He always has something useful to offer. We as what my tribe calls NT Christians have for too long ignored the very things he brings to light. The OT and NT are NOT two different stories. It is ONE story our story about our spiritual ancestors. God had a reason for dealing with his people the way he did and there is value in understanding what that involves better.

Only focusing on the NT is like giving someone the last 1/3 of War and Peace and saying enjoy this great book.

What is much more annoying is the people that ignore a lot of what's in the last third of the book.

Quote from: Jaime on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 22:11:17
He always something useful to offer. We as what my tribe calls NT Christians have for too long ignored the very things he brings to light. The OT and Nt are NoT two different stories. It is ONE story our story about our spiritual ancestors. God had a reason for dealing with hos people the way he did and there is value in understanding what that involves better.

Only focusing on the NT is like giving someone the last 1/3 of War and Peace and saying enjoy this great book.

What is much more annoying is the people that ignore a lot of what's in the last third of the book.

Well said ... agree with you on this.  ,

Quote from: Snargles on Wed Oct 30, 2013 - 20:52:09
DaveW can be awful annoying the way he ties every thing in the NT to a Jewish practice but on the other hand, he has explained a whole lot of obscure (to me at least) cultural stuff that we can't understand from a 21st century American POV. If we put everything in the NT in the proper 1st century Jewish or Greco-Roman culture we would understand scripture better.

Thanks.

One of the things I now find annoying is the fact that almost every church in every faith/doctrinal stream totally ignores these historical perspectives.  It took me taking a class in basic Judaism in a Conservative synagogue after being in the regular church world for 35+ years to start seeing this stuff.  I learned more in that 3 month course of the cultural and theological backdrop to the NT than I had in the previous 3 decades.  (That was surely NOT the purpose of that course!)

It is an emphasis in most Messianic synagogues and that is one of the reasons I made the move 15 years ago and have not looked back.

BTW Snargles, most of the NT IS tied into first century Jewish practice; and the stuff that isn't needs to be seen in contrast to that practice. I am sorry you find that annoying but it is a fact.