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Is Israel Still The Promised Land in the New Testament?

Started by Alan, Mon Jan 05, 2015 - 05:44:09

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DaveW

"Nowhere in the New Testament does God reaffirm His covenant with the Jewish people regarding the Land of Israel."

I will not be watching this video.  The opening screen is enough information to tell me where they are going with this.  That statement tells me that the person is ASSUMING that somewhere prior to the Gospels that God changed His mind on everything and what ever continues had to be re-stated.

That is NOT how ancient mid east covenants worked.

Romans 11:29  for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

Alan

No Dave, Ron is making a case FOR the continuance of God's promises to the Jews. Sorry if the title appeared misleading  ::cryingtears::

Shimshon

I constructed an article years back that addressed the promised return of the people of Israel to their land called The Return of the King. Check it out and give me some feedback.
QuoteThe prophets speak of the return of the remnant of Israel.  And in those texts, the return of the King and the connection to the new covenant are inextricably linked.

The King would return and re-gather his people to his Kingdom.  As the nations of the world understand and believe in this miracle, they too would come into His Kingdom, as gentiles, to receive the blessings offered them.  All be it, after much disaster and destruction (purification).  Just like Israel is going through, so to the nations of the world are going through this consecration.  All be it through different means, but to the same goal.

After God purifies Israel , he purifies the nations.  Another way to look at it is, after Israel is consecrated to God, the nations will be consecrated to Him as well.  And in the end, all will worship the King of Glory in his resting place.  Both Israel and the nations will honor God, and dwell in union with Him forever.  In fact, through God redeeming his people Israel , the nations will turn to Him and glorify him as well.
QuoteI believe there is a place for Israel as a nation of people in the future that if understood would cause the nations of the world to fall to their knee's and worship the God of all Glory.
QuoteIn the world to come Yeshua will reign as King of Israel on the mountain of God's house that is established in Jerusalem, Mt Zion, dwelling with his servants forever.  The nations all will come to him to learn God's ways and walk in his paths.  Loving God with all their heart, soul and might, living in peace and loving everyone.

Israel has a place and purpose God's Kingdom 'along side' the nations of the world.  This study shows overwhelmingly that Israel is dealt with in a different manner than the nations of the world.  Israel is redeemed out of the nations in glory to God, and the nations are saved through Israel glorifying God through Yeshua in this way.   The nations will know God when through Israel Yeshua is glorified.  When Israel is redeemed as a nation of people through Yeshua, the nations of the world will bow down and glorify Yeshua through Israel.

Both Jew and Gentile are One in Messiah!!  Both indwelt with the Spirit of God, being cleansed, forgiven and made holy to God, along side each other.  Not being made into one another, becoming the other, or replacing the other.  But both receive eternal life when they accept who they are 'individually' in Messiah.

When Yeshua the King returns he will gather the remnant of Israel and rule over her in the Land promised to her.  She will be cleaned and made pure, and all the nations of the world will come and worship Yeshua in Israel.  Learning the ways and paths of God.  As his instructions go forth out of Zion.

"I in them and you in I" Yeshua the King dwells in the remnant of Israel, and God dwells in Yeshua, and many gentiles will come and say 'teach us about your ways, and we will walk your paths.  And Yeshua the King will teach them, judge them and arbitrate for them, as he rules Israel from Mount Zion, forever.

Yeshua the King will return and establish the remnant of Israel and rule the nations from Mt. Zion.  Both are uniquely identified in purpose and in place.  The gentile nations do not become Israel, nor does Israel become a gentile nation.  The Spirit of God is no more causing all gentiles to follow the Torah of Moshe. than it is causing all Israel to become the Church.  Both are forms of replacement theology that have no truth in them.

Praise Yeshua and the return of the King who gathers the remnant of Israel from the world and places her in the promised land, causing the nations to know God through them glorifying Yeshua.  Praise Yeshua the King who bestows eternal life to both Israel and those who believe in what God has done through Yeshua with Israel. Praise the King of Glory, the King of Israel, and the world!

Shimshon

Quote from: DaveW on Mon Jan 05, 2015 - 05:49:41
"Nowhere in the New Testament does God reaffirm His covenant with the Jewish people regarding the Land of Israel."

I will not be watching this video.  The opening screen is enough information to tell me where they are going with this.  That statement tells me that the person is ASSUMING that somewhere prior to the Gospels that God changed His mind on everything and what ever continues had to be re-stated.

That is NOT how ancient mid east covenants worked.

Romans 11:29  for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
You mean you didn't recognize Ron Cantor?  You do know him no?

DaveW

Quote from: Shimshon on Mon Jan 05, 2015 - 17:13:09
You mean you didn't recognize Ron Cantor?  You do know him no?

I have not seen Ron in about a decade.  No, I did not recognize him. 
I have maybe seen him once since he moved from Maryland.

(don't tell my wife I didn't recognize him! She'll never let me hear the end of it! LOL)

Yeah - we knew Ron when he was here.  DW used to be the receptionist at the Tikkun America office. So she saw him every day for about a year.

inhishands


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