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I just watched this doctor's video on youtube where he states various parts of the world have different parameters for defining high blood pressure. I didn't know this. I assumed we all pretty much went by the same guidelines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizDuANT9BE


Here in the US, for a few years, 120/80 was the highest we could get before the doctor would put us on medication to lower our numbers. I think now they've raised it to 140/90, however some doctors still go by the 120/80.
The doctor in the video claims doctors in the UK typically won't medicate until your systolic number goes over 100+your age. Is that true?? That's considerably higher than a doctor would allow here. In India, doctors won't prescribe meds until your systolic goes over 140 and in Germany it's 189. 

The gist of this guy's video is here in the US, pharmaceutical companies influence doctors to set these exceptionally low guidelines to force us to take their drugs when not actually needed. 

Here is a video describing this pressure:

https://youtu.be/YoDh_gHDvkk

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 07:27:58
I just watched this doctor's video on youtube where he states various parts of the world have different parameters for defining high blood pressure. I didn't know this. I assumed we all pretty much went by the same guidelines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizDuANT9BE


Here in the US, for a few years, 120/80 was the highest we could get before the doctor would put us on medication to lower our numbers. I think now they've raised it to 140/90, however some doctors still go by the 120/80.
The doctor in the video claims doctors in the UK typically won't medicate until your systolic number goes over 100+your age. Is that true?? That's considerably higher than a doctor would allow here. In India, doctors won't prescribe meds until your systolic goes over 140 and in Germany it's 189. 

The gist of this guy's video is here in the US, pharmaceutical companies influence doctors to set these exceptionally low guidelines to force us to take their drugs when not actually needed. 

A recent doctor told my mom that it should be 110/70.  But she finds that 120/70 is acceptable.

Mine is low cause they have me on meds for my AFIB. It never was high ... 120/75 used to be common for me... now might be as low as 108/65.

My cardiologist is always happy with my readings. His goal is stroke prevention in me from the AFIB.

So I take a little pill.

High blood pressure leads to heart attacks and strokes. Everyone knows that. Why they would not address that around the world is beyond me.

Quote from: Ginger Rella on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 08:13:38

High blood pressure leads to heart attacks and strokes. Everyone knows that. Why they would not address that around the world is beyond me.

Maybe it's an exaggeration to get people to take the meds when not necessarily needed. The business of healthcare always trumps the care of the patient.

Quote from: Alan on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 10:26:00

Maybe it's an exaggeration to get people to take the meds when not necessarily needed. The business of healthcare always trumps the care of the patient.

That's what I'm thinking, Alan. I think we're over medicated here in the US, and it starts at a young age.

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 11:11:27
That's what I'm thinking, Alan. I think we're over medicated here in the US, and it starts at a young age.

Many of those other countries do not capitalize on over-selling meds, in our countries many of the doctors are major investors in the pharmaceutical industry, it makes sense for them to nurture their investment.

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 07:27:58
I just watched this doctor's video on youtube where he states various parts of the world have different parameters for defining high blood pressure. I didn't know this. I assumed we all pretty much went by the same guidelines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GizDuANT9BE


Here in the US, for a few years, 120/80 was the highest we could get before the doctor would put us on medication to lower our numbers. I think now they've raised it to 140/90, however some doctors still go by the 120/80.
The doctor in the video claims doctors in the UK typically won't medicate until your systolic number goes over 100+your age. Is that true?? That's considerably higher than a doctor would allow here. In India, doctors won't prescribe meds until your systolic goes over 140 and in Germany it's 189. 

The gist of this guy's video is here in the US, pharmaceutical companies influence doctors to set these exceptionally low guidelines to force us to take their drugs when not actually needed. 

I have been on BP medication for many years.  My last reading was 120/78 and the doctor was happy with that as was I.

Quote from: chosenone on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 11:37:35
I have been on BP medication for many years.  My last reading was 120/78 and the doctor was happy with that as was I.

That is very good, chosen, but do you happen to remember what it was before he put you on medication? It just seems like US doctors are pushing meds on people before they actually need it - and no medication is without a downside.

Quote from: Ginger Rella on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 08:13:38
A recent doctor told my mom that it should be 110/70.  But she finds that 120/70 is acceptable.

Mine is low cause they have me on meds for my AFIB. It never was high ... 120/75 used to be common for me... now might be as low as 108/65.

My cardiologist is always happy with my readings. His goal is stroke prevention in me from the AFIB.

So I take a little pill.

High blood pressure leads to heart attacks and strokes. Everyone knows that. Why they would not address that around the world is beyond me.

My mom has Afib and had an ablation procedure when she had a valve replacement and also a pacemaker. Both of my parents have had pretty bad heart disease and surgeries, but they're still here!    A cousin of mine, who is younger than me, just got a new valve. Scary stuff.

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 11:51:25
That is very good, chosen, but do you happen to remember what it was before he put you on medication? It just seems like US doctors are pushing meds on people before they actually need it - and no medication is without a downside.

It was pretty high, something like 150/95 or 100. I was going though a very horrible and stressful time and partly put it down to that. IT was discovered when I was going to have a big op in my mid 40's, and they wouldn't let me go home after the op until it had come down with medication so I was in for a week instead of 5-6 days. 

Quote from: mommydi on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 11:57:19
My mom has Afib and had an ablation procedure when she had a valve replacement and also a pacemaker. Both of my parents have had pretty bad heart disease and surgeries, but they're still here!    A cousin of mine, who is younger than me, just got a new valve. Scary stuff.

I am thankful that heart problems are not in my family. Most of my dad's many siblings died from lung problems caused by heavy smoking (cigarettes were unfiltered then). Probably why I was so surprised that my BP was high in my 40's.

Quote from: chosenone on Fri Jul 20, 2018 - 14:41:03
I am thankful that heart problems are not in my family. Most of my dad's many siblings died from lung problems caused by heavy smoking (cigarettes were unfiltered then). Probably why I was so surprised that my BP was high in my 40's.

Hi; do keep having check ups; my own heart bypass surgery was preceded by years of high blood pressure. (Not everyone has the same experience, of course.)