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The Fall of America and the rise of the Image of the Beast.

Started by Hobie, Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 06:06:46

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With the turmoil we see now in America we now can see how the path for the emergence of the image of the beast is being laid out.  The image of the beast is a copy or likeness of the first beast, the sea beast in Revelation 13. So we need to go and look at more closely at what this entails and how it acts in terms of the end times. So what does Revelation mean by the expression "the image of the beast"? Lets look in Rev 13 to begin..

Revelation 13:1-2 King James Version (KJV)
1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Here is a good explanation by one of my college professors..

"An image is something that closely resembles something else. A statue worshiped by idolaters is a likeness, an image, of the god being worshiped. In [Revelation] 13:14–17 the "image of  the beast" is a replica or copy of the beast. The Old World leopard-bodied beast was a persecuting union of church and state, a religious system wedded to national government and empowered by it to oppress dissidents and heretics. In particular, it was outstanding in its opposition to the Sabbath and in its advocacy of Sunday. The image of the beast will therefore be a persecuting union of church and state, a religious system wedded to national government and empowered by it to oppress dissidents and heretics, especially those dissidents and heretics who keep the Sabbath and refuse to observe Sunday."The Mark of the Beast. In Frank. B. Holbrook

Revelation 13:11-15 King James Version (KJV)
11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

This shows the beast of Revelation and depicts the attempt of an unholy trinity to counteract God's goal for the plan of salvation. Which essentially is the restoration of 'image' of God in human beings as it was at Creation.  We see this evil entity try to subvert Gods plan in the last days by creating the image of the beast on Earth. The image of the beast is an end time entity, comprised of a community of people who reflect the character of the dragon, and has religious-economic-political power to impose false worship on Earth. We see the corruption it brings which is the end time Babylon the Great of Revelation 17-18, and the image of the beast is best identified with this entity.

The image of the beast is basically an institution and procedures which will duplicate the form and behavior of the beast power in Revelation 13. It will convince many that its words and purpose are true despite not being in full harmony with Scripture and will persuade the people of the earth, believers and non-believers, to follow the religious-political power which is the beast. The lamblike beast will also begin speaking like a dragon and exercising the power of the beast, showing that it will become as intolerant especially in setting aside of laws and foundational liberties. This results in people receiving the mark of the beast which is by following it in its false practices of worship, which is really worship of the Beast, and corruption of Gods Holy Day of worship. Lets look at the Revelation 14...

Revelation 14:9-12 King James Version (KJV)
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Worshiping on Sunday is a direct way of worshiping the Beast, but there are other ways which we must be careful to avoid, one example which many Protestants and even a few Adventist are picking up is the 'climate change' idea of a 'green sabbath'.

https://www.greensabbathproject.net/all-posts/green-sabbath-and-sheltering-in-place

The fall of America is also the loss of the foundational rights and the laws of America and the emergence of a corrupted power, the image of the beast. Think about it.

Hobie

Here is SOP on the issue of the image of the beast...

"In Revelation 14, men are called upon to worship the Creator; and the prophecy brings to view a class that, as the result of the threefold message, are keeping the commandments of God. One of these commandments points directly to God as the Creator. The fourth precept declares: "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God: ... for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it." Exodus 20:10, 11. Concerning the Sabbath, the Lord says, further, that it is "a sign, ... that ye may know that I am the Lord your God." Ezekiel 20:20. And the reason given is: "For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day He rested, and was refreshed." Exodus 31:17.

"The importance of the Sabbath as the memorial of creation is that it keeps ever present the true reason why worship is due to God"—because He is the Creator, and we are His creatures. "The Sabbath therefore lies at the very foundation of divine worship, for it teaches this great truth in the most impressive manner, and no other institution does this. The true ground of divine worship, not of that on the seventh day merely, but of all worship, is found in the distinction between the Creator and His creatures. This great fact can never become obsolete, and must never be forgotten."—J. N. Andrews, History of the Sabbath, chapter 27. It was to keep this truth ever before the minds of men, that God instituted the Sabbath in Eden; and so long as the fact that He is our Creator continues to be a reason why we should worship Him, so long the Sabbath will continue as its sign and memorial. Had the Sabbath been universally kept, man's thoughts and affections would have been led to the Creator as the object of reverence and worship, and there would never have been an idolater, an atheist, or an infidel. The keeping of the Sabbath is a sign of loyalty to the true God, "Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." It follows that the message which commands men to worship God and keep His commandments will especially call upon them to keep the fourth commandment.

In contrast to those who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus, the third angel points to another class, against whose errors a solemn and fearful warning is uttered: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." Revelation 14:9, 10. A correct interpretation of the symbols employed is necessary to an understanding of this message. What is represented by the beast, the image, the mark?

The line of prophecy in which these symbols are found begins with Revelation 12, with the dragon that sought to destroy Christ at His birth. The dragon is said to be Satan (Revelation 12:9); he it was that moved upon Herod to put the Saviour to death....

In chapter 13 (verses 1-10) is described another beast, "like unto a leopard," to which the dragon gave "his power, and his seat, and great authority." This symbol, as most Protestants have believed, represents the papacy, which succeeded to the power and seat and authority once held by the ancient Roman empire. Of the leopardlike beast it is declared: "There was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies.... And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, and His tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations." This prophecy, which is nearly identical with the description of the little horn of Daniel 7, unquestionably points to the papacy.

"Power was given unto him to continue forty and two months." And, says the prophet, "I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death." And again: "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword." The forty and two months are the same as the "time and times and the dividing of time," three years and a half, or 1260 days, of Daniel 7—the time during which the papal power was to oppress God's people. This period, as stated in preceding chapters, began with the supremacy of the papacy, A.D. 538, and terminated in 1798. At that time the pope was made captive by the French army, the papal power received its deadly wound, and the prediction was fulfilled, "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity."

At this point another symbol is introduced. Says the prophet: "I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb." Verse 11. Both the appearance of this beast and the manner of its rise indicate that the nation which it represents is unlike those presented under the preceding symbols. The great kingdoms that have ruled the world were presented to the prophet Daniel as beasts of prey, rising when "the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea." Daniel 7:2. In Revelation 17 an angel explained that waters represent "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15. Winds are a symbol of strife. The four winds of heaven striving upon the great sea represent the terrible scenes of conquest and revolution by which kingdoms have attained to power.

But the beast with lamblike horns was seen "coming up out of the earth." Instead of overthrowing other powers to establish itself, the nation thus represented must arise in territory previously unoccupied and grow up gradually and peacefully. It could not, then, arise among the crowded and struggling nationalities of the Old World—that turbulent sea of "peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." It must be sought in the Western Continent.

What nation of the New World was in 1798 rising into power, giving promise of strength and greatness, and attracting the attention of the world? The application of the symbol admits of no question. One nation, and only one, meets the specifications of this prophecy; it points unmistakably to the United States of America. Again and again the thought, almost the exact words, of the sacred writer has been unconsciously employed by the orator and the historian in describing the rise and growth of this nation. The beast was seen "coming up out of the earth;" and, according to the translators, the word here rendered "coming up" literally signifies "to grow or spring up as a plant." And, as we have seen, the nation must arise in territory previously unoccupied. A prominent writer, describing the rise of the United States, speaks of "the mystery of her coming forth from vacancy," and says: "Like a silent seed we grew into empire."—G. A. Townsend, The New World Compared With the Old, page 462....

"And he had two horns like a lamb." The lamblike horns indicate youth, innocence, and gentleness, fitly representing the character of the United States when presented to the prophet as "coming up" in 1798. Among the Christian exiles who first fled to America and sought an asylum from royal oppression and priestly intolerance were many who determined to establish a government upon the broad foundation of civil and religious liberty. Their views found place in the Declaration of Independence, which sets forth the great truth that "all men are created equal" and endowed with the inalienable right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." And the Constitution guarantees to the people the right of self-government, providing that representatives elected by the popular vote shall enact and administer the laws. Freedom of religious faith was also granted, every man being permitted to worship God according to the dictates of his conscience. Republicanism and Protestantism became the fundamental principles of the nation. These principles are the secret of its power and prosperity. The oppressed and downtrodden throughout Christendom have turned to this land with interest and hope. Millions have sought its shores, and the United States has risen to a place among the most powerful nations of the earth.

But the beast with lamblike horns "spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed; ... saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live." Revelation 13:11-14.

The lamblike horns and dragon voice of the symbol point to a striking contradiction between the professions and the practice of the nation thus represented. The "speaking" of the nation is the action of its legislative and judicial authorities. By such action it will give the lie to those liberal and peaceful principles which it has put forth as the foundation of its policy. The prediction that it will speak "as a dragon" and exercise "all the power of the first beast" plainly foretells a development of the spirit of intolerance and persecution that was manifested by the nations represented by the dragon and the leopardlike beast. And the statement that the beast with two horns "causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast" indicates that the authority of this nation is to be exercised in enforcing some observance which shall be an act of homage to the papacy.

Such action would be directly contrary to the principles of this government, to the genius of its free institutions, to the direct and solemn avowals of the Declaration of Independence, and to the Constitution. The founders of the nation wisely sought to guard against the employment of secular power on the part of the church, with its inevitable result—intolerance and persecution. The Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." Only in flagrant violation of these safeguards to the nation's liberty, can any religious observance be enforced by civil authority. But the inconsistency of such action is no greater than is represented in the symbol. It is the beast with lamblike horns—in profession pure, gentle, and harmless—that speaks as a dragon.

"Saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast." Here is clearly presented a form of government in which the legislative power rests with the people, a most striking evidence that the United States is the nation denoted in the prophecy.

But what is the "image to the beast"? and how is it to be formed? The image is made by the two-horned beast, and is an image to the beast. It is also called an image of the beast. Then to learn what the image is like and how it is to be formed we must study the characteristics of the beast itself—the papacy.

When the early church became corrupted by departing from the simplicity of the gospel and accepting heathen rites and customs, she lost the Spirit and power of God; and in order to control the consciences of the people, she sought the support of the secular power. The result was the papacy, a church that controlled the power of the state and employed it to further her own ends, especially for the punishment of "heresy." In order for the United States to form an image of the beast, the religious power must so control the civil government that the authority of the state will also be employed by the church to accomplish her own ends.

Whenever the church has obtained secular power, she has employed it to punish dissent from her doctrines. Protestant churches that have followed in the steps of Rome by forming alliance with worldly powers have manifested a similar desire to restrict liberty of conscience. An example of this is given in the long-continued persecution of dissenters by the Church of England. During the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, thousands of nonconformist ministers were forced to flee from their churches, and many, both of pastors and people, were subjected to fine, imprisonment, torture, and martyrdom.

It was apostasy that led the early church to seek the aid of the civil government, and this prepared the way for the development of the papacy—the beast. Said Paul: "There" shall "come a falling away, ... and that man of sin be revealed." 2 Thessalonians 2:3. So apostasy in the church will prepare the way for the image to the beast.

When the leading churches of the United States, uniting upon such points of doctrine as are held by them in common, shall influence the state to enforce their decrees and to sustain their institutions, then Protestant America will have formed an image of the Roman hierarchy, and the infliction of civil penalties upon dissenters will inevitably result.

The beast with two horns "causeth [commands] all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Revelation 13:16, 17. The third angel's warning is: "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God." "The beast" mentioned in this message, whose worship is enforced by the two-horned beast, is the first, or leopardlike beast of Revelation 13—the papacy. The "image to the beast" represents that form of apostate Protestantism which will be developed when the Protestant churches shall seek the aid of the civil power for the enforcement of their dogmas. The "mark of the beast" still remains to be defined.

After the warning against the worship of the beast and his image the prophecy declares: "Here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Since those who keep God's commandments are thus placed in contrast with those that worship the beast and his image and receive his mark, it follows that the keeping of God's law, on the one hand, and its violation, on the other, will make the distinction between the worshipers of God and the worshipers of the beast. "

4WD

There have been and are now civilizations far worse than is the U.S. now.  How bad the U.S. becomes is yet to be seen.  And given the narrowness of the democrat lead in the House and Senate, Pelosi doesn't have the mandate [oh excuse me, the womandate] she was hoping for.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 17:47:22
Pelosi doesn't have the mandate [oh excuse me, the womandate] she was hoping for.
rofl rofl  Good one.

Hobie

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 17:47:22
There have been and are now civilizations far worse than is the U.S. now.  How bad the U.S. becomes is yet to be seen.  And given the narrowness of the democrat lead in the House and Senate, Pelosi doesn't have the mandate [oh excuse me, the womandate] she was hoping for.

We shall see how this goes forward..


Hobie

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 17:54:59rofl rofl  Good one.
As you can see it was never about her, but who leads at the head of the free world and the NWO as well...

Hobie

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 17:47:22There have been and are now civilizations far worse than is the U.S. now.  How bad the U.S. becomes is yet to be seen....
So are we getting to the end of 'civilization' in America...

"The White House on Friday announced "transgender day of visibility" for March 31, which this year falls on Easter Sunday.

"NOW, THEREFORE, I, JOSEPH R. BIDEN JR., President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim March 31, 2024, as Transgender Day of Visibility," President Biden wrote in a Friday statement. "I call upon all Americans to join us in lifting up the lives and voices of transgender people throughout our Nation and to work toward eliminating violence and discrimination based on gender identity."

And its being done purposely as a matter of policy...'Since its inception, the Biden administration has made LGBT activism a cornerstone of its policy priorities. Biden boasted in his statement that he appointed transgender leaders to his administration and ended the ban on transgender Americans serving openly in the military...https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-proclaims-easter-sunday-transgender-day-of-visibility/ar-BB1kNEHy

Amo

The nation, Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, were formed by a predominantly Protestant and Bible based peoples. It is now a predominantly Catholic, Apostate Protestant, and Secular Humanist nation.

Catholicism obtaining its goal of becoming a dominant population through successive mass migrations rather than conversions. The continuing growth of apostate Protestantism and Secular Humanism being aided and abetted by Catholicism over and above authentic Bible believing Protestantism. A natural course pursued by the natural enemies of authentic Bible based Protestantism which always has and always will be a natural enemy and protestor of Roman Catholic deceptive and abusive teaching, influence, and usurped authority.

The ties that bind this three fold union of antiChrist unto BABYLON THE GREAT, are Sunday sacredness, and spiritualism. By refusing to abandon these unbiblical deceptions, Protestantism has been and continues to fall in apostate oblivion. Soon God will send strong delusion upon those who have chosen to believe these lies of the evil one. The entire world will be plunged into its final dark age, to be shortly broken by the brightness of the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God be merciful to us. Convict our hearts and minds to separate from, and come completely out of Babylon. Grant us the faith and endurance necessary to do not only so, but also warn as many as possible of what is coming and to get ready. By and through Christ Jesus our Lord, and only, and all.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Sunday sacredness and spiritualism are the evil one's counterfeits of God's sanctified Sabbath, and the influence of the Holy Spirit upon humanity. Directly attacking the authority of God, and the sanctifying influence and methodology of the Holy Spirit of God upon humanity. Turning people away from the testimony of holy scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit of God, unto the testimony of those influenced by the pagan religions of old, in the worship of the sun and the dead. Who also seek intercession and truth from the dead. All the world outside of Christ Jesus our Lord will eventually be a part of this three fold union. Those who worship an extra biblical god and or god's, or no god at all, and therefore themselves. Becoming true offspring of the evil one himself, who was the first to do such. Until our Lord returns and separates the sons of God, from the sons of men, or the evil one.

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.


Lord grant us mercy, repentance, faith, strength, and endurance. Purify us, that we may see our God, and not only live but be like Him. Amen.

Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Fri May 10, 2024 - 10:51:37The nation, Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights, were formed by a predominantly Protestant and Bible based peoples. It is now a predominantly Catholic, Apostate Protestant, and Secular Humanist nation.

Catholicism obtaining its goal of becoming a dominant population through successive mass migrations rather than conversions. The continuing growth of apostate Protestantism and Secular Humanism being aided and abetted by Catholicism over and above authentic Bible believing Protestantism. A natural course pursued by the natural enemies of authentic Bible based Protestantism which always has and always will be a natural enemy and protestor of Roman Catholic deceptive and abusive teaching, influence, and usurped authority.

The ties that bind this three fold union of antiChrist unto BABYLON THE GREAT, are Sunday sacredness, and spiritualism. By refusing to abandon these unbiblical deceptions, Protestantism has been and continues to fall in apostate oblivion. Soon God will send strong delusion upon those who have chosen to believe these lies of the evil one. The entire world will be plunged into its final dark age, to be shortly broken by the brightness of the coming of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God be merciful to us. Convict our hearts and minds to separate from, and come completely out of Babylon. Grant us the faith and endurance necessary to do not only so, but also warn as many as possible of what is coming and to get ready. By and through Christ Jesus our Lord, and only, and all.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Sunday sacredness and spiritualism are the evil one's counterfeits of God's sanctified Sabbath, and the influence of the Holy Spirit upon humanity. Directly attacking the authority of God, and the sanctifying influence and methodology of the Holy Spirit of God upon humanity. Turning people away from the testimony of holy scripture inspired by the Holy Spirit of God, unto the testimony of those influenced by the pagan religions of old, in the worship of the sun and the dead. Who also seek intercession and truth from the dead. All the world outside of Christ Jesus our Lord will eventually be a part of this three fold union. Those who worship an extra biblical god and or god's, or no god at all, and therefore themselves. Becoming true offspring of the evil one himself, who was the first to do such. Until our Lord returns and separates the sons of God, from the sons of men, or the evil one.

Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Rom 8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. 13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.


Lord grant us mercy, repentance, faith, strength, and endurance. Purify us, that we may see our God, and not only live but be like Him. Amen.
Yes, we have the present administration and the social justice movement and world organizations joining to destroy Protestantism and Bible believing Christians, and indoctrinate the coming generations...

Amo

Quotes from Ecclesiastical Megalomania -

Roman Catholic economic thought, as developed by the popes in their encyclicals and by Roman Church-State councils, has been a contributor to, if not the only source of, several forms of anti-capitalist political and economic organization during the long hegemony of the Roman Church-State. Among these forms are
1. feudalism and guild socialism in Europe during the Middle ages.
2. fascism in Italy, Spain, Portugal, Croatia, and Latin America in the twentieth century;
3. Nazism in Germany in the twentieth century;
4. interventionism and redistributive state in the West, including the United States in the twentieth century; and
5. liberation theology in Latin America and Africa in the twentieth century.
(Ecclesiastical Megalomania, John W. Robbins, Pt. 1, chap. 1, pg. 30)

From these doctrines of the natural community of goods and the moral primacy of need developed all the forms of anti-capitalist social organizations that the Roman Church-State has supported for the thousand years. The Roman Catholic doctrine of private property is echoed in the nineteenth century Communist slogan, "From each according to his ability; to each according to his need." The Roman Catholic doctrine reverberates in the slogan of twentieth century American liberals: "Human rights are more important than property rights." It was the creed of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society:, "We shall take from the haves and give to the have nots, who need it so much." It appears in the literature of fascism, Nazism, liberation theology, interventionism, and socialism. (Ibid., pg. 35)

These Thomistic notions - that private property is merely a construct of human reason and government, and that need gives the needy title to the goods of others - are the reason the Roman Catholic bishops in Brazil in 1998 pronounced that looting is neither sin nor a crime. The needs of the looters gives the looters title to the goods they are taking. According to Roman Catholic doctrine, the looters are, by natural and divine law, the rightful owners of those goods.
(Ibid., pgs. 35&36)

The dispensing of riches to the needy is not merely a private moral obligation in Thomisitic thought, as fundamentally important as that is, but a public legal obligation that is properly enforced by the public authorities. That is the position officially adopted by the Roman Church-State shall become abundantly clear. (Ibid., pg. 36)

Hobie

Neither Democrats or Republicans seem to be in control,  something else is driving this thing forward. We shall see..

Jaime

Actually the ESTABLISHMENT RINOS and Democrats comprising the Establishment Uniparty (the enemy of the people) have been runming things into the ground (in unison) as they present the illusion of a two party system.

Amo

Quote from: Jaime on Sat Feb 15, 2025 - 20:35:18Actually the ESTABLISHMENT RINOS and Democrats comprising the Establishment Uniparty (the enemy of the people) have been runming things into the ground (in unison) as they present the illusion of a two party system.

Correct. Now we have four years to see once again if Trump and MAGA are true supporters of the Constitutional Democratic Republic our founders envisioned, or just another part of the machine dismantling the same.

Hobie

Quote from: 4WD on Sat Jan 09, 2021 - 17:47:22There have been and are now civilizations far worse than is the U.S. now.  How bad the U.S. becomes is yet to be seen.  And given the narrowness of the democrat lead in the House and Senate, Pelosi doesn't have the mandate [oh excuse me, the womandate] she was hoping for.
The present administration has no boundaries, like others we have seen, but this one has the power to enforce its will....

Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Sun Feb 16, 2025 - 09:45:11Correct. Now we have four years to see once again if Trump and MAGA are true supporters of the Constitutional Democratic Republic our founders envisioned, or just another part of the machine dismantling the same.
Well, we see whats coming, and we know...

"But the beast with lamblike horns "spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. . . . telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived." Revelation 13:11-14.

The lamblike horns and dragon voice of the symbol point to a striking contradiction between the professions and the practice of the nation thus represented. The "speaking" of the nation is the action of its legislative and judicial authorities. By such action it will give the lie to those liberal and peaceful principles which it has put forth as the foundation of its policy. The prediction that it will speak "as a dragon" and exercise "all the authority of the first beast" plainly foretells a development of the spirit of intolerance and persecution that was manifested by the nations represented by the dragon and the leopardlike beast. And the statement that the beast with two horns "causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast" indicates that the authority of this nation is to be exercised in enforcing some observance which shall be an act of homage to the papacy.

Such action would be directly contrary to the principles of this government, to the genius of its free institutions, to the direct and solemn avowals of the Declaration of Independence, and to the Constitution. The founders of the nation wisely sought to guard against the employment of secular power on the part of the church, with its inevitable result—intolerance and persecution. The Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," and that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office of public trust under the United States." Only in flagrant violation of these safeguards to the nation's liberty, can any religious observance be enforced by civil authority. But the inconsistency of such action is no greater than is represented in the symbol. It is the beast with lamblike horns—in profession pure, gentle, and harmless—that speaks as a dragon."... https://www.ellenwhite.info/books/ellen-g-white-book-great-controversy-gc-35.htm

Hobie

Quote from: Jaime on Sat Feb 15, 2025 - 20:35:18Actually the ESTABLISHMENT RINOS and Democrats comprising the Establishment Uniparty (the enemy of the people) have been runming things into the ground (in unison) as they present the illusion of a two party system.
Well looks like the President is doing it himself, as he has started what seemed to be a easy operation much like the one to get Venezuela's strongman, Maduro and take him down and bring him to justice. But right away there was a hint of the complexity of the strikes against Iran as the reasoning was that we had to strike because another country was about to attack, seems like circular reasoning. Then it was because they were days or weeks from enriching uranium for a nuclear weapon, then it grew to defending the neighboring countries from the military strikes from Iran. Now its metamorphizing into a worldwide stranglehold on the oil that the world uses for its energy needs, what is next as this 'Pandora's Box' lets loose its unpredictable results as we see the world being shaken by what prophecy said would try to bring it under its authority it like the original...

Amo

#17
There is no question but that Iran represented a great opportunity to pursue the agenda of removing obstacles to a near future global dominance moving closer to a one world economic system and government, as envisioned by the Papacy. The best lies and or deceptions are those most closely related to, and or combined with obvious truths. Iran was a problem in many ways. Representing a real threat to the safety of many nations, including our own. The real question is concerning just who will end up with the power all that oil represents, as much of Europe and the world are of a globalist mindset indeed. Or will it be a tamed Iran, willing to submit and be controlled by those of the globalist mindset?

If we are not going to step in and do so, then who will end up doing so? And was that the intention from the beginning? The answer to this, will determine whether this is actually part of the globalist agenda, or in defiance of the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See–Iran_relations

The Vatican has political relations with the greater part of all the nations of earth. Giving her a unique opportunity to influence and or manipulate the outcome of relations between all the nations of earth. When God decides it is time to fully heal the wound of the first beast of the book of Revelation chapter thirteen, she will succeed in bringing about her globalist agenda among all the nations. The United States is of course a most crucial element in these plans. As Catholic politicians are over represented within our federal and state governments, this plan becomes more viable day after day.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil,] and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

garee

Quote from: Amo on Sun Apr 05, 2026 - 10:59:55There is no question but that Iran represented a great opportunity to pursue the agenda of removing obstacles to a near future global dominance moving closer to a one world economic system and government, as envisioned by the Papacy. The best lies and or deceptions are those most closely related to, and or combined with obvious truths. Iran was a problem in many ways. Representing a real threat to the safety of many nations, including our own. The real question is concerning just who will end up with the power all that oil represents, as much of Europe and the world are of a globalist mindset indeed. Or will it be a tamed Iran, willing to submit and be controlled by those of the globalist mindset?

If we are not going to step in and do so, then who will end up doing so? And was that the intention from the beginning? The answer to this, will determine whether this is actually part of the globalist agenda, or in defiance of the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See–Iran_relations

The Vatican has political relations with the greater part of all the nations of earth. Giving her a unique opportunity to influence and or manipulate the outcome of relations between all the nations of earth. When God decides it is time to fully heal the wound of the first beast of the book of Revelation chapter thirteen, she will succeed in bringing about her globalist agenda among all the nations. The United States is of course a most crucial element in these plans. As Catholic politicians are over represented within our federal and state governments, this plan becomes more viable day after day.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil,] and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Neither Iran, nor Roman Catholicism, nor Greek Orthodoxy rightly divide the parable of Revelation 18. Christ warned against those who search after lying signs and wonders, treating them as though they were true prophecy. He called them an evil generation because they had no understanding of Christ's parables.

The book was closed and sealed with seven seals. Yet men, following satan the king of lying signs, build their own mysteries out of what causes the unbelieving world to wonder, wonder, wonder—as though Christ were still adding revelation. From that kind of blindness come inventions such as limbo, purgatory, and every other mystery shaped by human imagination rather than by rightly divided Scripture.

Believers do not need to wander in wonder as if the faith were unfinished. They have the whole counsel of God, already given. What is sealed is not waiting for men's private additions, but for Christ to reveal by His Spirit through the written testimony. The evil generation seeks signs to marvel at. Faith seeks understanding through the testimony already provided.


The unbelieving heart craves signs to chase. Faith rests in the testimony already given. We do not "wonder, wonder, wonder" as though Christ forgot to finish His work.

Hobie

Quote from: Amo on Sun Apr 05, 2026 - 10:59:55There is no question but that Iran represented a great opportunity to pursue the agenda of removing obstacles to a near future global dominance moving closer to a one world economic system and government, as envisioned by the Papacy. The best lies and or deceptions are those most closely related to, and or combined with obvious truths. Iran was a problem in many ways. Representing a real threat to the safety of many nations, including our own. The real question is concerning just who will end up with the power all that oil represents, as much of Europe and the world are of a globalist mindset indeed. Or will it be a tamed Iran, willing to submit and be controlled by those of the globalist mindset?

If we are not going to step in and do so, then who will end up doing so? And was that the intention from the beginning? The answer to this, will determine whether this is actually part of the globalist agenda, or in defiance of the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_See–Iran_relations

The Vatican has political relations with the greater part of all the nations of earth. Giving her a unique opportunity to influence and or manipulate the outcome of relations between all the nations of earth. When God decides it is time to fully heal the wound of the first beast of the book of Revelation chapter thirteen, she will succeed in bringing about her globalist agenda among all the nations. The United States is of course a most crucial element in these plans. As Catholic politicians are over represented within our federal and state governments, this plan becomes more viable day after day.

Rev 18:1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. 6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, 10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come. 11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: 12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil,] and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! 17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off, 18 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city! 19 And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate. 20 Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and prophets; for God hath avenged you on her. 21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. 22 And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. 24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
Wow, the Image (US) is pushing aside governments, friends and enemies and notice even the Pope (which says we are mightier in every sense)....

Amo

Quote from: garee on Thu Apr 09, 2026 - 06:28:42Neither Iran, nor Roman Catholicism, nor Greek Orthodoxy rightly divide the parable of Revelation 18. Christ warned against those who search after lying signs and wonders, treating them as though they were true prophecy. He called them an evil generation because they had no understanding of Christ's parables.

The book was closed and sealed with seven seals. Yet men, following satan the king of lying signs, build their own mysteries out of what causes the unbelieving world to wonder, wonder, wonder—as though Christ were still adding revelation. From that kind of blindness come inventions such as limbo, purgatory, and every other mystery shaped by human imagination rather than by rightly divided Scripture.

Believers do not need to wander in wonder as if the faith were unfinished. They have the whole counsel of God, already given. What is sealed is not waiting for men's private additions, but for Christ to reveal by His Spirit through the written testimony. The evil generation seeks signs to marvel at. Faith seeks understanding through the testimony already provided.


The unbelieving heart craves signs to chase. Faith rests in the testimony already given. We do not "wonder, wonder, wonder" as though Christ forgot to finish His work.

That is one opinion. Here is another -

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And another -

2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

garee

Quote from: Amo on Yesterday at 19:11:14That is one opinion. Here is another -

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. 3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

And another -

2Pe 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
::preachit::

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