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Quote from: Amo on Sat May 02, 2026 - 13:15:33https://bookofmormonevidence.org/overwhelming-evidence-mounds-skeletons-artifacts-near-cumorah-land/

Quotes below from link above.

The "missing bone" is still missing.

Big claims need solid evidence—not links and headlines.

Stories about giants, mass skeletons, or lost civilizations get repeated a lot, but when you look for verified archaeological proof, it isn't there. That's why these claims stay in the realm of speculation, not established history.

Now bring it back to Scripture:

Second Epistle to the Corinthians 6:14"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..."

That principle applies here too.

Truth and speculation don't mix Light and darkness don't blend Scripture and sensational claims aren't equals

There were believers after the flood—yes. The call has always been the same:

Stay aligned with what God has revealed, not what captures lustful attention.

"Land of giants" talk sounds impressive, but without real evidence, it drifts into the same category as science fiction.

So the question isn't:"How big were the bones?" NBA?

It's:"Where is the verified proof?"


Not everything that sounds ancient is true. Not everything that's repeated is reliable.

Stay yoked to truth—not to speculation.

Quote from: garee on Sun May 03, 2026 - 07:59:30The "missing bone" is still missing.

Big claims need solid evidence—not links and headlines.

Stories about giants, mass skeletons, or lost civilizations get repeated a lot, but when you look for verified archaeological proof, it isn't there. That's why these claims stay in the realm of speculation, not established history.

Now bring it back to Scripture:

Second Epistle to the Corinthians 6:14"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers..."

That principle applies here too.

Truth and speculation don't mix Light and darkness don't blend Scripture and sensational claims aren't equals

There were believers after the flood—yes. The call has always been the same:

Stay aligned with what God has revealed, not what captures lustful attention.

"Land of giants" talk sounds impressive, but without real evidence, it drifts into the same category as science fiction.

So the question isn't:"How big were the bones?" NBA?

It's:"Where is the verified proof?"


Not everything that sounds ancient is true. Not everything that's repeated is reliable.

Stay yoked to truth—not to speculation.

Believing the truth of biblical testimony regarding the existence of giants in the past is not speculation, it is faith in the Holy Scriptures. This is not to mention that the evidence of giantism even among the plants and animals of the past is plentiful. We know plants, animals, and even insects were much larger in the past than they are now. There is no good reason to suspect that humanity created by God to oversee this world, would be physically dwarfed by almost everything around them.

Without question, Humans of the past being bigger and better than we are today, would cause major problems for the theory of evolution. It would basically prove that humanity has been devolving, not evolving. Like so many other plants, animals, and insect obviously have as well. If you do not think people will do what it takes protect their interests, including hiding crucial information that could destroy those interests, then you do not understand fallen humanity very well at all. The Holy Scriptures and history of this world are replete with just such events over and over again.

Nevertheless, you are of course free to believe any and all "official" narratives you please. As I and others are as free to reject such for many and various good reasons.

Interesting testimony from a book published in 1890 I do believe. I've read this book more than once, but never really noticed this reference to what certain scientists of the day were claiming and or addressing. Emphasis in quoted material is mine.

QuotePatriarchs and Prophets

By Ellen G. White

Chapter 9

The literal Week, para. 5&6.

Geologists claim to find evidence from the earth itself that it is very much older than the Mosaic record teaches. Bones of men and animals, as well as instruments of warfare, petrified trees, et cetera, much larger than any that now exist, or that have existed for thousands of years, have been discovered, and from this it is inferred that the earth was populated long before the time brought to view in the record of creation, and by a race of beings vastly superior in size to any men now living. Such reasoning has led many professed Bible believers to adopt the position that the days of creation were vast, indefinite periods.

But apart from Bible history, geology can prove nothing. Those who reason so confidently upon its discoveries have no adequate conception of the size of men, animals, and trees before the Flood, or of the great changes which then took place. Relics found in the earth do give evidence of conditions differing in many respects from the present, but the time when these conditions existed can be learned only from the Inspired Record. In the history of the Flood, inspiration has explained that which geology alone could never fathom. In the days of Noah, men, animals, and trees, many times larger than now exist, were buried, and thus preserved as an evidence to later generations that the antediluvians perished by a flood. God designed that the discovery of these things should establish faith in inspired history; but men, with their vain reasoning, fall into the same error as did the people before the Flood—the things which God gave them as a benefit, they turn into a curse by making a wrong use of them.

Many of the testimonies about giants referred to above, have been shared on this thread. Some believe that all the testimony regarding giants of the past around the globe throughout history, represent continuous hoax's. Others suspect foul play concerning a manipulated and controlled narrative. One's world view will of course seriously affect which testimony one believes is true.

QuoteNIAGARA FALLS.
(Written By Abraham Lincoln.)
The following article on Niagara Falls, in Mr. Lincoln's handwriting, was found among his papers after his death:
"Niagara Falls! By what mysterious power is it that millions and millions are drawn from all parts of the world to gaze upon Niagara Falls? There is no mystery about the thing itself. Every effect is just as any intelligent man, knowing the causes, would anticipate without seeing it. If the water moving onward in a great river reaches a point where there is a perpendicular jog of a hundred feet in descent in the bottom of the river, it is plain the water will have a violent and continuous plunge at that point. It is also plain, the water, thus plunging, will foam and roar, and send up a mist continuously, in which last, during sunshine, there will be perpetual rainbows. The mere physical of Niagara Falls is only this. Yet this is really a very small part of that world's wonder. Its power to excite reflection and emotion is its great charm. The geologist will demonstrate that the plunge, or fall, was once at Lake Ontario, and has worn its way back to its present position; he will ascertain how fast it is wearing now, and so get a basis for determining how long it has been wearing back from Lake Ontario, and finally demonstrate by it that this world is at least fourteen thousand years old. A philosopher of a slightly different turn will say, 'Niagara Falls is only the lip of the basin out of which pours all the surplus water which rains down on two or three hundred thousand square miles of the earth's surface.' He will estimate with approximate accuracy that five hundred thousand tons of water fall with their full weight a distance of a hundred feet each minute--thus exerting a force equal to the lifting of the same weight, through the same space, in the same time.

"But still there is more. It calls up the indefinite past. When Columbus first sought this continent--when Christ suffered on the cross--when Moses led Israel through the Red Sea--nay, even when Adam first came from the hand of his Maker; then, as now, Niagara was roaring here. The eyes of that species of extinct giants whose bones fill the mounds of America have gazed on Niagara, as ours do now. Contemporary with the first race of men, and older than the first man, Niagara is strong and fresh to-day as ten thousand years ago. The Mammoth and Mastodon, so long dead that fragments of their monstrous bones alone testify that they ever lived, have gazed on Niagara--in that long, long time never still for a single moment (never dried), never froze, never slept, never rested."

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Quote from: Amo on Sun May 03, 2026 - 10:12:23Believing the truth of biblical testimony regarding the existence of giants in the past is not speculation, it is faith in the Holy Scriptures. This is not to mention that the evidence of giantism even among the plants and animals of the past is plentiful. We know plants, animals, and even insects were much larger in the past than they are now. There is no good reason to suspect that humanity created by God to oversee this world, would be physically dwarfed by almost everything around them.

Without question, Humans of the past being bigger and better than we are today, would cause major problems for the theory of evolution. It would basically prove that humanity has been devolving, not evolving. Like so many other plants, animals, and insect obviously have as well. If you do not think people will do what it takes protect their interests, including hiding crucial information that could destroy those interests, then you do not understand fallen humanity very well at all. The Holy Scriptures and history of this world are replete with just such events over and over again.

Nevertheless, you are of course free to believe any and all "official" narratives you please. As I and others are as free to reject such for many and various good reasons.

Cannot be two sources of one divine truth sons of God born again believers before the flood and after same as the Christians today . words have meaning. No Outer limits ---Lost in Space

Quote from: garee on Sun May 03, 2026 - 19:58:46there ca
Cannot be two sources of one divine truth sons of God born again believers before the flood and after same as the Christians today . words have meaning. No Outer limits ---Lost in Space

Agreed. Not sure what that has to do with people of the past being larger than now, or not. Unless one believes the giants of the past were the result of fallen angels mating with humans. Which I do not.

Purchased some old history books recently. The following testimony from them is interesting and relevant to the subject at hand.

QuoteWhere Thorwald was buried, or where thorn and Gudrida landed and lived, nobody knows. The best informed students of the subject believe it to have been on Rhode Island, and that the mysterious stone tower at Newport, with its massive cylindrical walls resting on seven columns, whose foundation stones are wrought spheres, was built by these Norwegian colonists. It was there when English settlers came, and the Indians had no knowledge of its origin. If the Northmen did not build it, who did? Perhaps Gudrida's son was born there. Who knows?(Our Country, Benson J. Lossing, LL.D., Vol. 1, Chap. 1, pg. 7) Published in 1877.

Whence came these dusty inhabitants of our land? is an unanswered and seemingly unanswerable question. Out of isolated facts - facts like the following - bold theories have been formed. Remains of fortifications like those of ancient European nations have been discovered. an idol, composed of clay and gypsum, representing a man without arms, resembling one found in southern Russia, was dug up near Nashville, in Tennessee. A Roman coin was found in Missouri; a Persian coin in Ohio; a bit of silver in the Genesee country, New York, with the year of our Lord 600 engraved on it; split wood and ashes thirty feet below the surface of the earth, at Fredonia, New York, a silver cup, finely gilded, within an ancient mound near Marietta, Ohio, and in a tomb near Montevideo, in South America, two ancient swords, a helmet and shield, with Greek inscriptions upon them, showing that they were made in the time of alexander the Great, more than three hundred years before Christ. The mysterious mounds found in various parts of our country have made strange revelations: such as weapons and utensils of copper; catacombs with mummies; ornaments of silver, brass, and copper; stones with Hebrew inscriptions; traces of iron utensils wholly reduced to dust; mirrors of isinglass and glazed pottery, and other evidences of the existence of a race here far more civilized than the tribes found by Europeans. And nearly all of these modern Indian nations have traditions respecting their origin. some of them told of a partial or universal deluge; and some said their particular progenitor came in a bark canoe after that terrible event............

But the mounds and their contents, the relics and the theories have not solved the great question. The mounds scattered all over the continent - huge interrogation points of deep significance - and the mound-builders are yet the subject of sharp speculation; and we might show wisdom if we should follow the example of Parson Mather, who, when the delusion of witchcraft had made him ridiculous, declared that the subject was "too deep for ordinary comprehension ," and referred its decision "to the day of judgment." We can afford to dwell, witho9ut further inquiry for the present, in the dim light reflected by Bryant's soliloquy:

And did the dust
Of these fair solitudes once stir with life
And burn with passion? Let the mighty mounds
That overlook the rivers, or that rise
In the dim forests, crowded with old oaks
Answer. A race that long has passed away
Built them; a disciplined and populous race
Heaped with long toil the earth, while yet the greek
Was hewing the Pentelicus to forms
Of symmetry, and rearing on its rock
The glittering Parthenon."

(Ibid, pgs. 10 & 11)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DkPzJpgYkI

More forgotten, neglected, or systematically ignored and hidden histories regarding the skeletal remains of humans. From the larger size they were when the planet produced almost everything at a greater scale and with longer lives than is now produced. Revealing the true history of devolution which has taken place on this planet, rather than the contrived evolution pawned off upon the world. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfEphEgBHTI

If this video be true, it is as I have addressed several times on this thread. Post flood humanity found a built upon the remains of the superior structures built by the antediluvians, eventually claiming them as their own. Not to mention building their religions and societies upon and or in accordance with the evidence they found or dug up. Which is no doubt why accounts of giants are so prevalent the world over as well.

It is also possible that some of these superior structures were built by humanity during the first few generations after the flood. Before our size, intellect, know how, and abilities diminished rapidly according to the devolution which has been taking place since the fall, and increasingly rapid after the flood. Probably more like a combination of the two. 

Quote from: Amo on Wed May 13, 2026 - 09:58:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfEphEgBHTI

If this video be true, it is as I have addressed several times on this thread. Post flood humanity found a built upon the remains of the superior structures built by the antediluvians, eventually claiming them as their own. Not to mention building their religions and societies upon and or in accordance with the evidence they found or dug up. Which is no doubt why accounts of giants are so prevalent the world over as well.

It is also possible that some of these superior structures were built by humanity during the first few generations after the flood. Before our size, intellect, know how, and abilities diminished rapidly according to the devolution which has been taking place since the fall, and increasingly rapid after the flood. Probably more like a combination of the two.

Fascinating. Thanks