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Hello everyone.

I am new to the forum and would like to start a discussion on the history of the New World Order.

I agree with most of the research of David Bay of Cutting Edge Ministries at ------- and have done a lot of research on the NWO from other sources as well, such as Dr. Stan Monteith of Radio Liberty, Pastor Chuck Baldwin of Chuck Baldwin Live, Pastor Butch Paugh of Call to Decision, and a lot of the contributing writers on News With Views, among others.

Currently the US is in the process of giving up its national sovereignty and merging into world government/global dictatorship.  The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America was signed in 2005, effectively beginning the process of merging Canada, the US, and Mexico into the North American Union, which is economic zone #1 under control of the emerging global govt.

This is happening as the culmination of a generations old occult plan to form the NWO going back to the Bavarian Illuminati and Adam Weishaupt and is being allowed by God to progress is such a fashion that it fulfills Bible prophecy exactly.

Hopefully by studying the progression of the NWO you will see the 'story behind the story' and see the hidden agenda in world events past, such as the formation of the Federal Reserve, the Bolshevik Revolution, WW1 and 2, Korea and Vietnam, and see the hidden agendas behind what is going on in the news today.

As my screen name implies, both Democrats and Republicans are working together towards this same goal.  I do not support either Democrat or Republican because both are controlled by the CFR globalists.

Most researchers on the New World Order such as David Bay and William T. Still trace the beginning back to Bavaria, Germany in the late 1700's and Adam Weishaupt, professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University.

I hold to the school of thought that the major wars of the twentieth century were planned, orchestrated, and fomented by the globalists in order to create global crises of such magnitude that the public would start to beg for a global government and the relinquishment of national sovereignty as the only solution to keep such horrible wars from happening again.

A Brief Outline:

May 1, 1776- Satanist Adam Weishaupt, Professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University in Bavaria, Germany forms the
Masters of the Illuminati
which combined the Satanic secret societies, some going all the way back to the ancient Babylonian Mystery religions, into one Satanic order.

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The Illuminati set forth on their goal to infiltrate and overthrow all existing governments, religions, and established authority and create a one world order dedicated to the worship of Lucifer

Illumninism eventually spread to America where The Illuminati infiltrated and merged with the Freemasons

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The Illuminati financed Karl Marx's publishing and distribution of the Communist Manifesto

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[Links removed per forum rules.  Please read.--marc]

Quote from: 2 Parties, 1 Goal on Sat Sep 22, 2007 - 19:21:52


I hold to the school of thought that the major wars of the twentieth century were planned, orchestrated, and fomented by the globalists in order to create global crises of such magnitude that the public would start to beg for a global government and the relinquishment of national sovereignty as the only solution to keep such horrible wars from happening again.

By the way, you won't find many conspiracy theorists here.

I only scanned this post, but I was disappointed not to see a mention of

1. The Trilateral Commission (they seem to have gone out of style, but they were popular back in the seventies).

2. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

3. Skull & Bones

4. Mel's Hole

or how Gary the Moderator is the third in command behind Hulk Hogan and the Pope.

Andy Kaufman Lives.

Here are a couple of pics of the NWO:

Actually, the New World Order isn't what people think.  It's literal.  And yet it is at the same time less obviously threatening and more insidious...








Here it is:

I agree with you. Did you see the new picture on the back of North Carolina drivers license? Here is the link......(Link Removed)

The back of the NC driver's license has an upside-down map of the world on it?  That's a definite sign!

They Lied: It's a Sovereignty Surrender
By James P. Tucker Jr.

PRESIDENT BUSH and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, when finally forced to face AFP-inspired questions at the three-way summit with Mexico, lied when they denied the real purpose of creating a North American Union and planning a superhighway linking the three nations. This is demonstrated by the words of their own flunkies.

Even when trying to be sarcastic, President Bush remained grim-faced, knowing they were lying. "I'm amused. . . . It's really quite comical,

...and be sure to have your pets spayed or neutered.




Congratulations!!!  You have now mentioned the Trilateral commission!!!!

(extra points for Kissinger.)

i missed the last illuminati meeting, guys.  so sorry.  the skull we were going to drink virgin's blood from had a crack in it & i was digging up another one.

dj

You haven't cracked Quantrill's skull now, have you?

no, it was adolf somebody that got cracked.  you guys got quantrill's over there?  oh, my!

dj

i am no conspiracy theorist and i highly disagree with the original post but the bookof revelation does tell us that there will be a one world leader one day.  now things like satelittes, gps, street cameras and other systems were probably all put into place with the best of intentions but they all can be usurped and used for a more sinister goal and purpose.

many a good idea has been taken over by those who wish to evil because it suits their purpose doesn't mean that that was the original intention.  back inthe 70's when  'a thief in the night' came out, i always wondered how these people could keep track of everyone.  30 years later we have our answer--g.p.s.  it is in cars, cell phones and children's clothing (sneakers i believe) and so on

so it is all taking shape and ripe for the plundering by those who wish to control the world.  law and order pundits are walking right into it as more and more freedoms are disappearing.

be sure to check out the dark treachery underway at dia - denver international airport!

dj

Treachery that begins with the insidious notion that the airport abbreviation is DIA when it is in reality DEN, thus causing thousands and thousands of stupi...uh, mistaken people to call ariline reservations and say, "Your website's broke.  I typed in DIA and it tells me there's no such airport."


(sorry.  I'm an ex-UAL reservationist.)

Quote from: marc on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 15:42:35
Treachery that begins with the insidious notion that the airport abbreviation is DIA when it is in reality DEN, thus causing thousands and thousands of stupi...uh, mistaken people to call ariline reservations and say, "Your website's broke.  I typed in DIA and it tells me there's no such airport."


(sorry.  I'm an ex-UAL reservationist.)

here you go, official dia using that designation.

http://www.flydenver.com/

dj

Pardon my ignorance, but what does dia stand for?

denver international airport.
conspiracists have a fun spooky time with it.

http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

BOO!

dj

Quote from: david johnson on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 17:46:06

Quote from: marc on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 15:42:35
Treachery that begins with the insidious notion that the airport abbreviation is DIA when it is in reality DEN, thus causing thousands and thousands of stupi...uh, mistaken people to call ariline reservations and say, "Your website's broke.  I typed in DIA and it tells me there's no such airport."


(sorry.  I'm an ex-UAL reservationist.)

here you go, official dia using that designation.

http://www.flydenver.com/

dj

But it is not the airport code and should not be typed into a website when the airport code is asked for.  The airport code is DEN.

You do not know the hours I have wasted because of this.  And yes, I hold the idiots who run the airport and put up the DIA signs responsible....

Quote from: david johnson on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 17:52:26
denver international airport.
conspiracists have a fun spooky time with it.

http://www.geocities.com/Baja/5692/
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Denver_Airport.html

BOO!

dj

....also there is the mystery of how this airport in the Rocky Mountains has the one of the lowest percentages of weather delays of any airport in the US....I'm sure some black arts are involved.

but i'm not after the CODE...it disguises the true CONSPIRACY!!!!! 

dj

hey...there's a masonic ring ad below this as i key it in....ooooooooooo

How the NWO Will Spread to Europe

This Awareness indicates that the conquest of the United States is not necessarily the beginning of the New World Order for Europe. The United States would need to be conquered if the New World Order were to be set up, but the purpose of conquering the United States is simply to get it diffused as an independent country so it cannot or does not wish to resist the implementation of the New World Order.

As for Europe, under the New World Order, the Bilderbergers are an organization that has been created, much as the Council Of Foreign Relation and Trilateralists in the United states was created, to bring these countries into the New World Order. The Bilderbergers as a great arm of the New World Order, to help secure Europe and those countries relating to the Bilderbergers into the New World Order.

You must understand that the New World Order is generally an outgrowth of the Rothschild banking and political powers, who set up or greatly set up with the help of other organizations, the Communist control of Russia, who also set up the control of the Nazis in Germany during World War II by helping to fund the Nazi movement along with others, such as Henry Ford and some other large financiers of the world.

This Awareness indicates that the Nazi movement and Communist movement, both being funded from these Rothschild wealth and power base, were but experiments and early efforts to establish some kind of purpose in bringing the great powers of Europe under control of the financial institutions owned by and controlled by the Rothschilds. The Rockefellers, who are often seen as competitors with the Rothschilds, are actually quite small in relation to the power and wealth of the Rothschilds, and could be squashed very easily by the Rothschilds powers.

This Awareness indicates the Rockefellers forces include the Council Of Foreign Relations and the Trilaterist organizations, and these are helping to promote the New World Order. The Rothschild are promoting the New World Order under Zionism, and Bilderbergers and certain Mafia contacts and through most of the banking establishments, and therefore, even regardless of what happens in the United States, and the various countries of Europe will have their own problems relating to the controls being established through the Rothschild forces and the European economic system.

The European community will be brought together as a large conglomerate of nations and will begin to have greater breakdown of boundaries as the nations are emasculated or diffused in terms of individuality. The definitions of each nation will begin to blur as the economics of Europe begin to spread and the boundaries are diminished whereby entities can travel from one country to another without passports or without excessive need for the usual customs evaluations that occurs at borders.



NWO Plans 10 Regions: "Ten Horns of the Beast"

This Awareness indicates that the same will eventually encompass many of the Russian and Eastern countries in Europe, and eventually it is planned to encompass all of Asia. This Awareness indicates that the plan calls for the establishment of ten regions of the world; these are what has been referred to in the Book of Revelation as the "Ten Horns of the Beast".

This Awareness indicates within the United States there will also be, according to the plan, Ten Regions, and these are that which is referred to in the Book of Revelation as the Smaller Beast that forces the masses to worship the larger beast. This Awareness indicates that in this sense, the UN, being funded mostly by United States money, is being promoted by the lesser beast, and when the lesser beast, the United Sates, becomes the New Republic, or the country having ten regions instead of 50 states, this country will then become more or less an enforcer of UN rules around the globe.



U.S. Taxpayers Will Fund NWO

There will be of course be cooperation from other countries who will help to supply troops, but much of the funding for such action of the UN will come from the United States. This Awareness indicates that it appears most of the funding, or the largest portion, will come from the United States, at least during the earlier stages of UN activity and world police enforcement.

This Awareness indicates that this does not mean that the United States will be sending troops into Europe to enforce the New World Order on all of the people in all of the countries; it does not mean that the United States will become a new form of Nazi Germany on world conquest for itself. It means rather, that the United States will help to fund the United Nations in its various global projects in trying to bring resistance nations under control of the UN, and Europe itself will be organized slowly and gradually by the Rothschild organizations and the various leaders of countries who are working with these Rothschild energies as they convert their countries into aspects of the New World Order.

Many of the countries of Europe will be asked to donate troops and money to the UN, and thus strengthen the UN as the centralized world-governing body to allow it greater power to conquer the rest of the world for the super-wealthy; there being approximately 13 families involved in this world conquest; the Rothschilds being the most notable of these families.



The European Union

This Awareness wishes to comment that the concept of a United Europe is not that different from the concept of a United States. The states in the United States Union were essentially and originally individual sovereign states that joined together in a kind of a union. To say "United States" is much like saying "Union of States." This Awareness indicates that the idea of a union of states was pure and could be very beneficial, but when the union of states get controlled from outside by the United States of America, Incorporated, in Washington D.C., whose jurisdiction in reality should only be its own ten square miles of territory, and when this union of states lets that corporation begin to rule them, because the corporation is capable of giving them large sums of money if they yield to their control, then a problem is developed.

They are selling their souls to the devil, in a sense. The same can be said for Europe. If these countries, which are sovereign independent countries, join together, and if, in their joining together they allow some external corporation or country or organization or force to begin dictating to them, then they have lost something very important: their own sovereignty, their own right to make their own decisions. This Awareness indicates that first it may be very insignificant and unimportant. The decisions that are made may not be of great concern, but the time will come when the outside force begins to dictate heavier and heavier policies, imposing restrictions on these independent countries, so that freedoms, which were once commonplace, are no longer allowed.

This Awareness reminds you that in 1933, Adolf Hitler spoke of a New World Order, seeing that it was his destiny to bring about a New World Order. This Awareness indicates you should also know that George Bush's father was one who helped finance Adolf Hitler into power and that George Bush belonged to the Skull and Bones Society in Yale University, which was an offshoot of the Skull and Bones Society in Nazi Germany.



New World Order Will be Worse than Hitler

This Awareness indicates that the movement of the Nazis across Europe in Hitler's effort to promote the New World Order by force, by invading country after another, and by subjugating the various countries in different ways, should give you some indication as to what to expect in a New World Order, even though it will be much worse in modern times than in Hitler's times, because the equipment, the technology for mass control or mass murder, is much more advanced now than it was in Hitler's time.

This Awareness indicates that if indeed your United Europe could unite with a focus on freedoms and the preservation of freedoms under some kind of constitution that guaranteed these freedoms and the rights of individuals, it could be most beneficial. But if it is simply a joining together for economic purposes and political controls, be very wary, for it is quite likely that these political controls will begin to become imprisonment controls, keeping entities under greater and greater control for the purpose of certain individuals..



Rothschild's London Estate a Sovereign State!

This Awareness indicates that the Rothschild's headquarters are on a certain grounds that are independent of the British and of England. They are essentially sovereign territory areas so that the Rothschilds cannot be controlled by the English laws because they are on land that is sovereign or separate from that of England, much the way the areas know as Washington D.C. is separate from the states, and therefore technically, those committing crimes against the states, who live in Washington D.C., cannot be held for treason until they are brought back to their own state, or the neighboring states.

As long as they are on foreign land, Washington D.C., these are not under the laws of the U.S,. Constitution or the States Constitution. Likewise, the Rothschilds are on foreign land in England and cannot be hold accountable to English law. This Awareness indicates that this is a way by which they create their own empire in the middle of London and carry on their mischief in such a way that allows them to be immune to any prosecution from English law, regardless of their fraud or misinterpretation or other crimes.



Rothschilds: "The Head of the Beast"

This Awareness indicates that as long as entities understand this as being the Horn of the Beast or the Head of the Beast and can recognize the importance of staying separate from the Rothschild influence and creating a union of countries, they can do great things in the preservation of freedom in the future. But, you must realize too that the Rothschild agents are like cockroaches crawling around your home. These cockroaches crawl as over Europe; they are everywhere. They are all around the world: in the United States, in Europe, in Asia, in Africa, in Japan and the Orient. They are constantly maneuvering and working for the Rothschild purposes.

When this Awareness speaks of the Rothschild purposes, It refers also to those cohorts, the other 12 super-wealthy families that associate or ride the coat-tails of the Rothschilds There are many families, but there are essentially 13 major families.

There are approximately 300 families, but 13 major families that make up the international banking community, which is behind the organizations known as the Bilderbergers, Council of Foreign Relations, the various secret cults such as the Masonry and the Tong organization and the Mafia, -- all of these various organizations which are sub-orders of the international banking community families.

one of the things that bother me about such conspiracy theories noted above, is that they are always without credible sources or references.

i am curious, where did you get that information and how reliable is it?

i must be missing someting here, i do not understand how 'dia' fits into a conspiracy theory?

are those initials refering to an abbreviation of 'diablo'?  i don't see it.

Quote from: archaeologist on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 22:57:34
one of the things that bother me about such conspiracy theories noted above, is that they are always without credible sources or references.

i am curious, where did you get that information and how reliable is it?

i must be missing someting here, i do not understand how 'dia' fits into a conspiracy theory?

are those initials refering to an abbreviation of 'diablo'?  i don't see it.

don't worry about me and dia...i'm jabbing at it's silliness.

sweetgal will have to explain herself, however, i heard all that on radio 'sermons' decades ago and as recently as the '90s -

say, have YOU noticed all those color coded highways in your area?  you will see small signs placed along the road as well as color plaques on bridge ends.  they say nothing but can be orange-ish or maybe blue.  they indicate that the road is a route to an internment camp, up in minnesota i think.
some will go to the red camp, some to the yellow camp, etc.  beware when you see those UN trucks stop at your house...it's time to load up in the back & go to our new home.
i bet they're the same guys behind the fluoride in our water plot.

dj

Well, you know after mothballing Cheyenne they had to find a new place to put E.T. and his gang, and a new place to go when the asteroids come...wait, wrong theory...

last night, elvis told me...
mothball cheyenne?  so there really is a stargate there?
...and they thought we would not figure that out!

Quote from: marc on Sun Sep 23, 2007 - 19:44:39
The back of the NC driver's license has an upside-down map of the world on it?  That's a definite sign!

It depends which way you turn it over...

Quote from: sweetgal on Tue Sep 25, 2007 - 21:54:07

The Rothschild are promoting the New World Order under Zionism, and Bilderbergers and certain Mafia contacts and through most of the banking establishments, and therefore, even regardless of what happens in the United States, and the various countries of Europe will have their own problems relating to the controls being established through the Rothschild forces and the European economic system.

That was the greatest problem with Armstrong's predictions...he was always suspicious of the Vatican, while overlooking the Zionist connection in all these activities.  Likewise, he was not cognate of the necessity of international organized crime involvement to provide flexibility, finances, and, of course, "muscle."  Because of this, he never quite interpreted the data right to come up with he right conclusions.

BTW, DIA = Defense Intelligent Agency, the least known and least budgetted US intelligence agency, and thus, logically, much more important that either the CIA or the NSA.

The scuttlebutt is that they are actively involved in promoting the Buddhist monk unrest in Myanmar this week.

Being pretty much self-funded, they are always looking for ways to make ready cash, and historically their best effort was in Vietnam during the early Sixties, when they sent their agents out disguised as gasoline pumps.  It is thought that they hope to score yet once again...

thanks for the information.  never heard of the d.i.a. and i thought it was the c.i.a. that was active during the vietnam war in the drug area.

i fail to see how that monk's death is linked tothe d.i.a.  i went through a lot of that article but it is too long and i do not have the time to read it all.

QuoteThe scuttlebutt is that they are actively involved in promoting the Buddhist monk unrest in Myanmar this week

i highly doubt it.  monks do not need egging on to protest, they do it over the enviorment as well.

conspiracy theories and theorists need an attitude adjustmet and stop distorting what really took place.

DIA is the Defence Intelligence Agency. The headquarters is located in Washington DC. They have been around since the 1960's.

do you have links or articles that talk about this agency and their purpose?

www dot dia dot mil

www dot en dot wikipedia dot org/wiki/defense_intelligence_agency