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Vitamins and Minerals?

Started by spurly, Sat May 27, 2006 - 09:24:41

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Lamb

mangosteen!

The miracle diarrhea cure!

Receive package and read instruction carefully:

1. pour contents out of bottle

2. use empty bottle as suppository until symptoms dissapear.

monmick

your crudeness betrays your character....

spurly

Quote from: Lamb on Wed Jul 05, 2006 - 06:46:42
Quote from: monmick on Mon Jul 03, 2006 - 12:46:38
Nothing but nothing is better for your health than mangosteen juice & XanGo is the category creator.
www.bestmangosteen.biz

...Sales rep   ::pondering::

Most likely.  Her links claim that mangosteen cures almost everything.

janine

Y'all stop being crude before I can get around to it.

Lamb

Mangosteen side effect...

Suppressed sense of humor. ::shrug::

twd



spurly

Quote from: monmick on Thu Jul 27, 2006 - 16:56:13
good audio file on mangosteen benefits:
http://discover.allnaturalwealth.com/allnaturalwealth/interview.htm

Monmick, do you have any horses that you saddle up occasionally, or is this the only horse in your stable?

twd

I was going to comment, but it was going to sound very unkind.

I certainly recognize that there are lots of healthy vegetable-based products.  But, when the marketing of the product moves to treading the thin line of making medical claims while only just avoiding what would require their submission to the FDA for approval, alarm bells go off in my head.  And those bells aren't tinnitus.

sisteranne

Hi Spurly,

You have a good list but what many don't know is that even the vitamins we buy are synthetic vitamins not natural and they are cut down with fillers and by products. I foun in my travels a great health routine and I feel great. Fresh Royal Jelly , Bee Pollen and a tea called Royal Energy Tea. I found many great articles at beeroyalproducts.com that you can research and read up on.  All of the bee products contain high B-complex vitamins naturally as well as proteins, amino acids and additional vitamins. I have more energy than ever. Its the best alternative.

kcr2304

#46
AS in the present days people are not taking healthy food items which are very good for health as they are taking fast food items which don't give any kind of improvement to your health.  ::applause:: People must food containing more calcium's and vitamins which could keep your body strong. Unlike most supplements, these products are made from organic foods, not synthetics.  ::playingguitar::
_______
kcr ::priest::

mandalee65

Ah, another sales rep, dredging up a three-year-old thread....

BTW - vitamins fall into two categories - fat-soluble and water-soluble. Most of the water-soluble vitamins will only accumulate in your body to levels that you actually - an excess just gets sent out in urine. The fat-solubles, otoh, can build up to toxic levels in your body. The same is true for most minerals.

So all those commercials you see promoting B6 or B12 is bogus - your body won't keep anymore than it needs to function.

If you have a condition that prevents your body from absorbing minerals and nutrients, then vitamins are a great idea. For most of us, though, eating a well-balanced diet will give us all we need.

Rule of thumb when shopping - it's tempting to choose multivitamins that contain much more than the dose recommended by the FDA. Don't. Choose one that keeps it to 100-150% of the recommended dose to avoid toxicity.

There's your nutrition lesson for the day. :)

_MattChin_

Personally, I would throw away all of the dead pills with powdered vitamins in them and instead get the real thing from eating/juicing living plants.

The dead version just isn't as good as the living version...

It's like comparing boiled, dead, store bought apple juice to clean, fresh, living apple juice. Tastes completely different... and has a much better healing effect on the body.

3AM

Quote from: spurly on Sat May 27, 2006 - 09:24:41
What natural supplements would you suggest someone taking in order to keep their body healthy?

I take:

Vitamin E
Vitamin C
Selenium
One A Day Multiply Vitamins

What should I add or take away?
God made foods, to contains all the elements, we need to be healthy on.

On a diet of raw foods, such as was provided in the Garden of Eden, the human body will be as healthy, as it can will get.

God made the foods to have all the right elements, in the correct proportion, for people and animals.

By taking certain vitamins or minerals, a person can easily create an inbalance, and therefore cause more harm than good, for the human body.


I've studied nutrition for some 30+ years....and I've learned a few things in that time-frame.

walker starr

Digressing back to the original question at 81 I still press iio pounds.  I attribute this to the taking of vitamins.The ones you recited are good and important.  I also take magensium and Bcomplex 100. ::tippinghat::

3AM

Quote from: _MattChin_ on Mon Apr 06, 2009 - 14:29:36
Personally, I would throw away all of the dead pills with powdered vitamins in them and instead get the real thing from eating/juicing living plants.

The dead version just isn't as good as the living version...

It's like comparing boiled, dead, store bought apple juice to clean, fresh, living apple juice. Tastes completely different... and has a much better healing effect on the body.
That's a very intelligent move, on your part.

Fem2009

Daily Men's, B12, Lycopene (espc men), shot of wheatgrass once in a while.

3AM

People should be aware that many vitamins sold in stores are of no real value to them.

Brands like, One a day...Centrum....etc., do not get absorbed into the body, fast anough to do much good for anyone.

Raw foods, either juiced, or eaten without heating them first, is best.

Just remember...God designed the human body, and don't you think HE knows what is best for us ?

Elaine

Quote from: 3AM on Sun May 24, 2009 - 20:19:21
People should be aware that many vitamins sold in stores are of no real value to them.

Brands like, One a day...Centrum....etc., do not get absorbed into the body, fast anough to do much good for anyone.

Raw foods, either juiced, or eaten without heating them first, is best.

Just remember...God designed the human body, and don't you think HE knows what is best for us ?


Exactly, I usually say, " And you're not taking One a Day or Centrum are you? Because you may as well get cardboard and roll it up into a pill and take that.   Think of the difference between particle board and oak... buy the oak."

3AM

Quote from: Elaine on Sun May 24, 2009 - 20:24:19
Quote from: 3AM on Sun May 24, 2009 - 20:19:21
People should be aware that many vitamins sold in stores are of no real value to them.

Brands like, One a day...Centrum....etc., do not get absorbed into the body, fast anough to do much good for anyone.

Raw foods, either juiced, or eaten without heating them first, is best.

Just remember...God designed the human body, and don't you think HE knows what is best for us ?


Exactly, I usually say, " And you're not taking One a Day or Centrum are you? Because you may as well get cardboard and roll it up into a pill and take that.   Think of the difference between particle board and oak... buy the oak."
The bottom line is...that people need to sudy the subject of nutrition, much better, instead of listening to some ads on TV.

Bon Voyage

grass fed lean beef is very good for you.    And some bacon every once and awhile is good for the soul.

Elaine

Quote from: Gary on Thu May 28, 2009 - 08:11:37
grass fed lean beef is very good for you.    And some bacon every once and awhile is good for the soul.

Bravo, that you know about grass fed beef. :)

admin

I'd certainly encourage you to take Omega 3 Fish (or Krill) Oil. It's been the best nutritional thing I've ever done. Nothing else comes close. But be sure to get a quality source. Carlson is an exceptionally high quality fish oil brand.

Bon Voyage

Quote from: Elaine on Thu May 28, 2009 - 13:19:23
Quote from: Gary on Thu May 28, 2009 - 08:11:37
grass fed lean beef is very good for you.    And some bacon every once and awhile is good for the soul.

Bravo, that you know about grass fed beef. :)

I live in Montana.  The hamburger I buy at the butcher shop in town is local grass fed beef.  It is leaner than the stuff at the supermarket at the same percentage of fat.

Elaine

Quote from: admin on Thu May 28, 2009 - 18:16:45
I'd certainly encourage you to take Omega 3 Fish (or Krill) Oil. It's been the best nutritional thing I've ever done. Nothing else comes close. But be sure to get a quality source. Carlson is an exceptionally high quality fish oil brand.

YES!   And I just bought Carlson Cod liver oil with D !!!!

TY for reminding me to take mine today again.

3AM

A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 
  9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 
  9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.

Bon Voyage

Quote from: 3AM on Sat May 30, 2009 - 14:15:19
A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 
  9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 
  9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.


I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.

3AM

Quote from: Gary on Sat May 30, 2009 - 17:33:09

I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.
[/quote]I was counting on you to react the way you do.

The first 12 patriarchs in the Bible, lived to be about 900 years old.

After flesh foods was allowed to decrease man's live span, the next 12 patriarchs lifespans dropped down to around 175 (Abraham for excample).

And then we come to us, in todays world, where diseases, illnesses, are the direct result of diet.
Each generation grows more sickly, as shown both degenerative diseases hitting more younger people.
Old people diseases, now attacking younger people.

Elaine

Quote from: Gary on Sat May 30, 2009 - 17:33:09
Quote from: 3AM on Sat May 30, 2009 - 14:15:19
A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 
  9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 
  9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.


I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.

Gary, where's the "twist".  I want to study this more.

Fem2009

Quote from: Gary on Sat May 30, 2009 - 17:33:09
Quote from: 3AM on Sat May 30, 2009 - 14:15:19
A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 
  9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 
  9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.


I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.

Um, it's fact not theory that vegetarians live longer.

Fem2009

For anyone interested in getting vitamins and minerals from raw juice. Consider using organic produce and take note of the amount of heat your juicer produces since this destroys enzymes. Using cold produce helps.
My favorite raw juice is a combination of:

Equal parts
Spinach
Kale
Parsley
Celery
Apple
2 Lemons
Ginger -length of a teaspoon

Mmmmm. It looks green but tastes like lemonade.

Jimmy

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 11:25:54
Quote from: Gary on Sat May 30, 2009 - 17:33:09
Quote from: 3AM on Sat May 30, 2009 - 14:15:19
A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. 
  9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. 
  9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.


I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.

Um, it's fact not theory that vegetarians live longer.

I would like to see the evidence on that one.  It sounds to me like another of those bits of cherry picked facts.

But consider that Cain was a keeper of the gournd and brought the first of his fields as an offering to God.  Able was a keeper of sheep and brought the first of his flocks as an offering to God.  God considered Able's offering superior to that of Cain.  Why exactly we are not told.  But what do you think Able was raising those sheep for?  As an offering only?  I don't think so.  Can you say "food"?  If it wasn't for food, then I can understand why Cain was so upset with Able, sponging off of him that way.

The idea that man was vergetarian before the flood is bogus.  That simply wasn't the case.  Man can live quite nicely without carbohydrates.  He cannot live without protein.  People of the far north such as the Eskimo live quite nicely eating only animal sources of food without ever eating any vegetarian type of food.  It is not easy to get sufficient protein in a purely vegetarian diet, since most plants contain very little protein.  That is why vegetarian animals such as grazers, like cows, deer, horses or the even great apes always have such huge bellies.  It is required to process the large quantities of plant food needed to sustain them.

Fem2009

#68
Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 12:14:32
Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 11:25:54
Quote from: Gary on Sat May 30, 2009 - 17:33:09
Quote from: 3AM on Sat May 30, 2009 - 14:15:19
A simple suggestion about eating flesh foods......don't.

Genesis   9:3   Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.  
 9:4   But flesh with the life thereof, [which is] the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.  
 9:5   And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
 

God never made man to eat flesh foods.

God made man to be a vegetarian, and that is because God knows best, as God made man.

After the flood, God allowed man, to eat flesh foods, to cut down on man's lifespan.

The Bible has given the ages men lived to to show what happened before the flood, and after the flood.

Man, before the flood, lived to around 900 years old.

After the flood, man's lifespan dropped to 175, as the result of flesh foods.

Diseases were unknown, untill man started eating flesh foods.

Anyone who really studied the Bible.... can see those facts, for themselves.


I can see the facts that what you are spreading is malarkey.  Find me a 175+ year old vegetarian.  If not, stop twisting the words of God.

Um, it's fact not theory that vegetarians live longer.

I would like to see the evidence on that one.  It sounds to me like another of those bits of cherry picked facts.

But consider that Cain was a keeper of the gournd and brought the first of his fields as an offering to God.  Able was a keeper of sheep and brought the first of his flocks as an offering to God.  God considered Able's offering superior to that of Cain.  Why exactly we are not told.  But what do you think Able was raising those sheep for?  As an offering only?  I don't think so.  Can you say "food"?  If it wasn't for food, then I can understand why Cain was so upset with Able, sponging off of him that way.

The idea that man was vergetarian before the flood is bogus.  That simply wasn't the case.  Man can live quite nicely without carbohydrates.  He cannot live without protein.  People of the far north such as the Eskimo live quite nicely eating only animal sources of food without ever eating any vegetarian type of food.  It is not easy to get sufficient protein in a purely vegetarian diet, since most plants contain very little protein.  That is why vegetarian animals such as grazers, like cows, deer, horses or the even great apes always have such huge bellies.  It is required to process the large quantities of plant food needed to sustain them.

I'm assuming the last paragraph is addressed to someone else. But, since you quoted me, I'll reply. What's cherry picked is the fact that you cannot see that this quote of yours

"But consider that Cain was a keeper of the gournd and brought the first of his fields as an offering to God.  Able was a keeper of sheep and brought the first of his flocks as an offering to God.  God considered Able's offering superior to that of Cain.  Why exactly we are not told."

has to do with living things having a SOUL. WHich is precious in the eye of the Lord. I would like to see direct quotes from the bible if you're going to fly into this discussion like you have some common sense.

Lev. 24:17, 18: "In case a man strikes any soul of mankind fatally, he should be put to death without fail. And the fatal striker of the soul of a domestic animal should make compensation for it, soul for soul.

OldDad

Why do you persist in rudeness such as telling people they have no common sense, don't know anything, or that you "schooled" or "served" them.  It dilutes your point and makes the people on this forum less and less interested in interacting with you.  As a moderator, I'm telling you to stop it.

Soybeans also taste terrible and are being implicated by medical research of reduced testosterone levels in men, leading to men developing breasts and unstable emotions.

From LifeExtension dot org:

Unexpected Findings

Vegetarians suffer fewer heart attacks than meat eaters.  Interestingly, this benefit dissipates as vegetarians age. For instance, one study showed that vegetarians under the age of 65 were 45% less like to suffer a heart attack than were meat eaters. Once vegetarians reached the age of 80, however, their heart attack risk was only 8% lower than that of meat eaters.

Longevity studies of vegetarians produce conflicting data.  Some studies do not show that vegetarians live significantly longer. Two studies of people who consumed very little meat showed an average life-span increase of 3.6 years. A huge study of Seventh Day Adventists who ate little or no meat showed longevity increases of 7.28 years in men and 4.42 years in women. These data are confounded by the fact that Seventh Day Adventists follow healthy lifestyles free of tobacco and alcohol.

Studies suggest that the longevity benefits conferred by a vegetarian diet dissipate as humans age.  This implies that while vegetarian diets reduce disease risk, restricting one's diet to only plant foods does not completely protect against the effects of aging.

Here's the link for footnotes and the entire article: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jan2006_awsi_01.htm

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