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I am still waiting for an answer to what Able was doing with all those sheep if he wasn't eating them.

And it is interesting to see that Cain, I assume, was raising soy beans.

I am with OldDad, soy beans taste terrible.  The best thing that you can do with it is make feed for cows, chickens and hogs.   

I actually like cherries.  You can use them to make one of my favorite pies.

Interesting perspective on soybeans and related products here:

http://searchwarp.com/swa20340.htm

Here's an excerpt:

The Israeli Health Ministry warns that children under 16 should eat soy foods no more that once per day and a maximum of 3 times a week, that babies never receive soy formula, and that adults exercise caution when consuming soy products.  The Ministry took its advice from a 23 member committee of nutritionists, oncologists, pediatricians who spent a year examining the evidence.

July of 2005 the Cornell University's Program of breast Cancer and Environmental Risk factors warned that soy food consumption can increase breast cell multiplication, increasing risk for breast cancer.

In 2002, the British Committee on Toxicity of Chemicals in food, Consumer Products and Environment found no merit in most of the health claims of soy. They identified infants on soy formula, vegetarians who use soy as a primary source of protein, and adults trying to prevent disease with soy foods and soy supplements as all being at risk for thyroid damage.

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Still not giving up my soy sauce at the Chinese restaurant, though...

Not to mention all the other crap our meat is pumped with these days...

Why are hormones used in food production?

Certain hormones can make young animals gain weight faster. They help reduce the waiting time and the amount of feed eaten by an animal before slaughter in meat industries. In dairy cows, hormones can be used to increase milk production. Thus, hormones can increase the profitability of the meat and dairy industries.

Studies done so far do not provide evidence to state that hormone residues in meat or dairy products cause any human health effects. However, a conclusion on lack of human health effect can only be made after large-scale studies compare the health of people who eat meat or dairy products from hormone-treated animals, to people who eat a similar diet, but from untreated animals.

http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/Factsheet/Diet/fs37.hormones.cfm

I don't know about you, but I am NOT anyone's guinea pig.

Some healthy diet tips that also help reduce exposure to hormones used in food production

While currently available evidence does not indicate a link between eating meat, milk or dairy products from hormone-treated animals and any health effects, adopting some known healthy diet habits (see below) can help reduce exposure to hormones used in meat, poultry and dairy production.

Eat a varied diet, rich in fruits, grains and vegetables.
Eat meats in moderation, well cooked, but not charred.
Eat more lean muscle meat, less liver and fat.

source above

The other health hazards from eating meat come directly from their farming practices. The animals are treated with high levels of antibiotics to prevent illnesses from the poor living conditions in their stalls. These antibiotics lodge themselves in the animals' muscles and cells, and are transfered to humans when we eat them. Then our bodies create a resistance to those antibiotics so that if we needed to take them, they would not cure the disease.
The animals are also fed high amounts of food treated with pesticides and fertilizers, which we directly ingest when eating the animal. About 70% of the fertilizers in the US are used for agriculture, not for planting our gardens. Pesticides and fertilizers in our food are a huge health hazard. Also, because the slaughterhouses need to process a huge amount of meat very quickly in order to make a profit, the entire slaughtering process has been sped up.

http://www.vegan-nutritionista.com/health-hazards.html

Top 12 Foods to Eat Organic:
Not all of us can afford to go 100% organic every time we shop. The solution? Focus on those foods that come with the heaviest burden of pesticides, additives and hormones. According to the Environmental Working Group (EWG), consumers can reduce their pesticide exposure by 80% by avoiding the most contaminated fruits and vegetables and eating only the cleanest. If consumers get their USDA-recommended 5 daily servings of fruits and veggies from the 15 most contaminated, they could consume an average of 10 pesticides a day. Those who eat the 15 least contaminated conventionally grown produce ingest less than 2 pesticides daily.

http://www.thedailygreen.com/healthy-eating/eat-safe/Dirty-Dozen-Foods








"Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." -- Albert Einstein

Quote from: OldDad on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 12:43:45
Why do you persist in rudeness such as telling people they have no common sense, don't know anything, or that you "schooled" or "served" them.  It dilutes your point and makes the people on this forum less and less interested in interacting with you.  As a moderator, I'm telling you to stop it.

Soybeans also taste terrible and are being implicated by medical research of reduced testosterone levels in men, leading to men developing breasts and unstable emotions.

From LifeExtension dot org:

Unexpected Findings

Vegetarians suffer fewer heart attacks than meat eaters.  Interestingly, this benefit dissipates as vegetarians age. For instance, one study showed that vegetarians under the age of 65 were 45% less like to suffer a heart attack than were meat eaters. Once vegetarians reached the age of 80, however, their heart attack risk was only 8% lower than that of meat eaters.

Longevity studies of vegetarians produce conflicting data.  Some studies do not show that vegetarians live significantly longer. Two studies of people who consumed very little meat showed an average life-span increase of 3.6 years. A huge study of Seventh Day Adventists who ate little or no meat showed longevity increases of 7.28 years in men and 4.42 years in women. These data are confounded by the fact that Seventh Day Adventists follow healthy lifestyles free of tobacco and alcohol.

Studies suggest that the longevity benefits conferred by a vegetarian diet dissipate as humans age.  This implies that while vegetarian diets reduce disease risk, restricting one's diet to only plant foods does not completely protect against the effects of aging.

Here's the link for footnotes and the entire article: http://www.lef.org/magazine/mag2006/jan2006_awsi_01.htm

Why do you insist on butting in on something you have no knowledge on? I was replying in kind. If your mind was bias free, you'd have noticed.

As a moderator, I'm telling you to stop it.   

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:03:15

Why do you insist on butting in on something you have no knowledge on? I was replying in kind. If your mind was bias free, you'd have noticed.

I remind you that I am speaking as a moderator, and you still persist in rude comments.  You need to stop now.

I looked at jimmy's post and found nothing to suggest that you were a "know nothing," that you lacked common sense or that he had "schooled" you or "served" you.

The only questionable thing was the mention of "cherry picked facts" - hardly grounds for being accused of being stupid.

I suggest you review the board rules on how to respond to moderation, particularly rule 2.6

Here's the link: Forum Rules

Quote from: OldDad on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:08:31

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:03:15

Why do you insist on butting in on something you have no knowledge on? I was replying in kind. If your mind was bias free, you'd have noticed.

I remind you that I am speaking as a moderator, and you still persist in rude comments.  You need to stop now.

I looked at jimmy's post and found nothing to suggest that you were a "know nothing," that you lacked common sense or that he had "schooled" you or "served" you.

The only questionable thing was the mention of "cherry picked facts" - hardly grounds for being accused of being stupid.

I suggest you review the board rules on how to respond to moderation, particularly rule 2.6

Here's the link: Forum Rules

I did not call him stupid. I asked  that he have the common sense to quote the bible and not write his own words. Please stop putting words in my mouth. I did not call this man stupid. I responded in kind to his post. But I won't ask people to be logical anymore. I'll just pretend we aren't debating. OK

Are you sure you're not upset about my asking if you were 80 and living in a box in another thread? Specifically the "Why do so many people speak of karma like it actually exists?" thread.

Holding grudges is very unhealthy. I'm gonna pray for you.

You develop a thick skin when you get to be 80 but I can always use prayer.  Thanks.

No, you didn't call Jimmy stupid.  I'm sorry for putting those words in your mouth, and hope you will accept my apology.

And I'm not discouraging lively debate - you can read my body of posts here and see that I can be feisty as hell.

I'm asking you to leave off the "you got served" and "sorry to school you" type comments - it borders on "brinking" or "flaming" - and to stop accusing people who expresses another point of view or have an honest disagreement of not know what they're talking about.  "Responding in kind" - and we all do it, unfortunately - doesn't seem to be in keeping with the Golden Rule as taught by Jesus.

You offer some good points and provide a point of view that isn't always well represented here.  I wouldn't want you to squander that by insulting people who hold contrary views.

I offer this in a spirit of peace, "burying the hatchet" and friendship.

How to reduce cholesterol (which can kill you in high amounts, might I add  )

Animal Fats
Animal products as a group are a major source of saturated fat in the average American diet. Butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, and cream all contain high amounts of saturated fat. Saturated fat is also concentrated in the fat that surrounds meat and in the white streaks of fat in the muscle of meat (marbling). Poultry, fish, and shellfish also contain saturated fat, although generally less than meat.

http://www.annecollins.com/low-cholesterol-diet.htm

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
How to reduce cholesterol (which can kill you in high amounts, might I add  )

So can water.  But I would highly recommend that you not stop drinking it.

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
Animal Fats
Animal products as a group are a major source of saturated fat in the average American diet. Butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, and cream all contain high amounts of saturated fat. Saturated fat is also concentrated in the fat that surrounds meat and in the white streaks of fat in the muscle of meat (marbling). Poultry, fish, and shellfish also contain saturated fat, although generally less than meat.

http://www.annecollins.com/low-cholesterol-diet.htm

If what you say is true, then virtually all Eskimos would die from the heart attacks saturated fats supposedly cause.  They chew on blubber as a snack and a "candy".  But that is not true.  In fact it was nearly nonexistant until they interacted with the white man from the lower 48 and picked up some of the bad habits that are the likely cause of those heart attacks.

As for the fat, perhaps you didn't realize it but it is the fat that gives the flavor to most meat including chicken.  There is no comparison in the flavor of chicken cooked with its skin and fat in place versus one that is skinless and devoid of fat.  But that is personal preference.  I will stay with my steaks, pork chops and good ole southern fried chicken.  You partake of all of the veggies you wish.  For me, I will let a good salad before the main course along with a couple of side dishes of vegetables suffice.

Bon Appetit

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 14:37:01

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
How to reduce cholesterol (which can kill you in high amounts, might I add  )

So can water.  But I would highly recommend that you not stop drinking it.

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
Animal Fats
Animal products as a group are a major source of saturated fat in the average American diet. Butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, and cream all contain high amounts of saturated fat. Saturated fat is also concentrated in the fat that surrounds meat and in the white streaks of fat in the muscle of meat (marbling). Poultry, fish, and shellfish also contain saturated fat, although generally less than meat.

http://www.annecollins.com/low-cholesterol-diet.htm

If what you say is true, then virtually all Eskimos would die from the heart attacks saturated fats supposedly cause.  They chew on blubber as a snack and a "candy".  But that is not true.  In fact it was nearly nonexistant until they interacted with the white man from the lower 48 and picked up some of the bad habits that are the likely cause of those heart attacks.

As for the fat, perhaps you didn't realize it but it is the fat that gives the flavor to most meat including chicken.  There is no comparison in the flavor of chicken cooked with its skin and fat in place versus one that is skinless and devoid of fat.  But that is personal preference.  I will stay with my steaks, pork chops and good ole southern fried chicken. You partake of all of the veggies you wish.  For me, I will let a good salad before the main course along with a couple of side dishes of vegetables suffice.

Bon Appetit

WOW, I didn't once say to stop cholesterol completely. I did state that HIGH cholesterol can kill you. Therefore, adding to my point that meat is not healthier than vegetables.

Actually, if you were paying attention and didn't fly in here-blah blah-you know the rest-you'd have noticed my post stating that I am NOT vegetarian. I happen to enjoy grass-fed organic steak once in a while.
You replied to my post "vegetarians live longer, which is a fact." I in turn gave you the evidence you demanded which shows how meat is the least healthiest of all our food (I'm excluding eggs and fish/shellfish).

Now please, dear Jimmy: where is your direct article, link or quote proving that eskimos were introduced to heart disease by WHITE men and also that eskimos diets are 100% "blubber?"

I think we can learn from each other.  

Here's some help on your debating from PC Perspective:
I see so much emotionally based debate and irrationality, that it's saddening how we often forget how to use facts, knowledge and most importantly, skepticism, to formulate our viewpoints. Step back from your political convictions, and step away from your emotion for just a second. Allow for one moment that maybe, just maybe, the leaders of your political party are fallible. Release the partisan beliefs you hold, and your conceived notions about persons, and weigh each man's words equally. Weigh them as if you do not know his beliefs. Let his words speak, rather than let your thoughts about his character obscure his word's meaning. I find that all too often, before someone has spoken, he has already been labeled as either "enemy or friend", and is summarily treated as so.

http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=324134

 

Quote from: OldDad on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:36:38
You develop a thick skin when you get to be 80 but I can always use prayer.  Thanks.

No, you didn't call Jimmy stupid.  I'm sorry for putting those words in your mouth, and hope you will accept my apology.

And I'm not discouraging lively debate - you can read my body of posts here and see that I can be feisty as hell.

I'm asking you to leave off the "you got served" and "sorry to school you" type comments - it borders on "brinking" or "flaming" - and to stop accusing people who expresses another point of view or have an honest disagreement of not know what they're talking about.  "Responding in kind" - and we all do it, unfortunately - doesn't seem to be in keeping with the Golden Rule as taught by Jesus.

You offer some good points and provide a point of view that isn't always well represented here.  I wouldn't want you to squander that by insulting people who hold contrary views.

I offer this in a spirit of peace, "burying the hatchet" and friendship.

Thank you. This sort of issue should be dealt with through a personal message. I should have left the schooled you part out. There are many people on here who do worst. But I am not one to point fingers. I will be careful.  

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 14:48:44

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 14:37:01

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
How to reduce cholesterol (which can kill you in high amounts, might I add  )

So can water.  But I would highly recommend that you not stop drinking it.

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 13:41:58
Animal Fats
Animal products as a group are a major source of saturated fat in the average American diet. Butter, cheese, whole milk, ice cream, and cream all contain high amounts of saturated fat. Saturated fat is also concentrated in the fat that surrounds meat and in the white streaks of fat in the muscle of meat (marbling). Poultry, fish, and shellfish also contain saturated fat, although generally less than meat.

http://www.annecollins.com/low-cholesterol-diet.htm

If what you say is true, then virtually all Eskimos would die from the heart attacks saturated fats supposedly cause.  They chew on blubber as a snack and a "candy".  But that is not true.  In fact it was nearly nonexistant until they interacted with the white man from the lower 48 and picked up some of the bad habits that are the likely cause of those heart attacks.

As for the fat, perhaps you didn't realize it but it is the fat that gives the flavor to most meat including chicken.  There is no comparison in the flavor of chicken cooked with its skin and fat in place versus one that is skinless and devoid of fat.  But that is personal preference.  I will stay with my steaks, pork chops and good ole southern fried chicken. You partake of all of the veggies you wish.  For me, I will let a good salad before the main course along with a couple of side dishes of vegetables suffice.

Bon Appetit

WOW, I didn't once say to stop cholesterol completely. I did state that HIGH cholesterol can kill you. Therefore, adding to my point that meat is not healthier than vegetables.

Actually, if you were paying attention and didn't fly in here-blah blah-you know the rest-you'd have noticed my post stating that I am NOT vegetarian. I happen to enjoy grass-fed organic steak once in a while.
You replied to my post "vegetarians live longer, which is a fact." I in turn gave you the evidence you demanded which shows how meat is the least healthiest of all our food (I'm excluding eggs and fish/shellfish).

Now please, dear Jimmy: where is your direct article, link or quote proving that eskimos were introduced to heart disease by WHITE men and also that eskimos diets are 100% "blubber?"

Actually, if you were paying attention and didn't fly in here-blah blah-you know the rest-you'd have noticed my post that I didn't say anything about you being a vegetrian.  eskimos diets being 100% "blubber"


And...

Actually, if you were paying attention and didn't fly in here-blah blah-you know the rest-you'd have noticed my post that I didn't say anything about eskimos diets being 100% "blubber"


As far as Eskimos and heart disease, there is no lack of literature on it.  Google it and make of it what you will.

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 12:51:23


I am with OldDad, soy beans taste terrible.  The best thing that you can do with it is make feed for cows, chickens and hogs.   

I actually like cherries.  You can use them to make one of my favorite pies.

Please look at the debating tactics link I posted:   http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=324134

God Bless Sweetheart

Jimmy:
In fact it was nearly nonexistant until they interacted with the white man from the lower 48 and picked up some of the bad habits that are the likely cause of those heart attacks...They chew on blubber as a snack and a "candy".
If what you say is true, then virtually all Eskimos would die from the heart attacks saturated fats supposedly cause

Fem2009:

Now please, dear Jimmy: where is your direct article, link or quote proving  that eskimos were introduced to heart disease by WHITE men and also that eskimos diets are 100% "blubber."


I would make you that cherry pie you're asking for:

Jimmy: You can use them to make one of my favorite pies.

Fem2009: Except, I'm not your woman. 

Personally, I agree with Fem, if you look at what she's talking about it makes plenty of sense.
Just read it and see for yourself... you don't have to follow the advice...but I'll go with her on this one.

And I want blueberry pie.


And maybe I'm being soft, but shouldn't as Christians there be a bit more kindess.
No one will knows there a Light if you just seem to be fighting. Maybe show a bit more of kindess when you are trying to counter someones information on here.

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 17:41:31

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 12:51:23


I am with OldDad, soy beans taste terrible.  The best thing that you can do with it is make feed for cows, chickens and hogs.  

I actually like cherries.  You can use them to make one of my favorite pies.

Please look at the debating tactics link I posted:   http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=324134

God Bless Sweetheart

Hey baby cakes, I am not your sweetheart.

This was not a debate about whether or not I like soybeans or cherries.  It was simply a statement.  Neither was it a debate about what I think might the best thing to do with soybeans.  Feel free to eat all the soy beans you want.

Seems others may agree with me on the best use for soybeans.


How Soybeans are Used   
When the farmer sells soybeans to a grain dealer, the beans may then go to a number of ultimate destinations. When processed, a 60-pound bushel will yield about 11 pounds of crude soybean oil and 47 pounds of soybean meal.  Soybeans are about 18% oil and 38% protein.  Because soybeans are high in protein, they are a major ingredient in livestock feed. Most soybeans are processed for their oil and protein for the animal feed industry.  A smaller percentage is processed for human consumption and made into products including soy milk, soy flour, soy protein, tofu and many retail food products. Soybeans are also used in many non-food (industrial) products.

(http://www.ncsoy.org/ABOUTSOYBEANS/UsesofSoybeans/tabid/1012/Default.aspx)

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 17:51:15

Fem2009: Except, I'm not your woman.  

That is something we can both agree on and at least I am quite happy about that.  Makes me wonder though, whose "woman" are you?

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:03:36

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 17:41:31

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 12:51:23


I am with OldDad, soy beans taste terrible.  The best thing that you can do with it is make feed for cows, chickens and hogs.   

I actually like cherries.  You can use them to make one of my favorite pies.

Please look at the debating tactics link I posted:   http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=324134

God Bless Sweetheart

Hey baby cakes, I am not your sweetheart.

This was not a debate about whether or not I like soybeans or cherries.  It was simply a statement.  Neither was it a debate about what I think might the best thing to do with soybeans.  Feel free to eat all the soy beans you want.

  Goodbye! Get some help.

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:07:38

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 17:51:15

Fem2009: Except, I'm not your woman.  

That is something we can both agree on and at least I am quite happy about that.  Makes me wonder though, whose "woman" are you?

You're so smitten. 

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:09:47

Quote from: Jimmy on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:07:38

Quote from: Fem2009 on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 17:51:15

Fem2009: Except, I'm not your woman.  

That is something we can both agree on and at least I am quite happy about that.  Makes me wonder though, whose "woman" are you?

You're so smitten. 

Thank you,  Coming from you I take that as a compliment.   

 

It almost seems that there are two things going on here ---one, someone needs to learn how to use spices so that soybeans are delicious.
Second ---there seems to always be the "battle" of the sexes.

Women just naturally say things like "Sweetheart, honey, dear" ---we are nurturers, mothers -----then a man comes along on a forum and says, "I'm not your sweetheart."
And crushes the innocent natural nurturing love of a woman ---I see it alot and it is a shame bec it stops me from my true nature to simply say "dear" sometimes.

:)Elaine

Fem2009 - I have a J.LaLanne juicer but have not used it yet. Was a vegetarian for 15 years ---very strictly.

Quote from: Elaine on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:41:22
It almost seems that there are two things going on here ---one, someone needs to learn how to use spices so that soybeans are delicious.
Second ---there seems to always be the "battle" of the sexes.

Women just naturally say things like "Sweetheart, honey, dear" ---we are nurturers, mothers -----then a man comes along on a forum and says, "I'm not your sweetheart."
And crushes the innocent natural nurturing love of a woman ---I see it alot and it is a shame bec it stops me from my true nature to simply say "dear" sometimes.

:)Elaine

Fem2009 - I have a J.LaLanne juicer but have not used it yet. Was a vegetarian for 15 years ---very strictly.

Elaine,

I'm not vegetarian. I was pesce/octo for a few years. I don't know if I have it in me for 15 years worth! You'll definitely reap the benefits...

"Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox with hatred within." ~ Proverbs 15:17

Quote from: Elaine on Mon Jun 01, 2009 - 22:41:22
It almost seems that there are two things going on here ---one, someone needs to learn how to use spices so that soybeans are delicious.
Second ---there seems to always be the "battle" of the sexes.

Women just naturally say things like "Sweetheart, honey, dear" ---we are nurturers, mothers -----then a man comes along on a forum and says, "I'm not your sweetheart."
And crushes the innocent natural nurturing love of a woman ---I see it alot and it is a shame bec it stops me from my true nature to simply say "dear" sometimes.

:)Elaine

Fem2009 - I have a J.LaLanne juicer but have not used it yet. Was a vegetarian for 15 years ---very strictly.

I don't believe soybeans are healthy.  I believe they are a garbage food like corn. 

One Question:   Did God make Adam & Eve a meat eater, or vegetarian ?



That question, properly answered, should close all discussion, as to whether man is suppose to eat flesh foods, or not.

In other words, what was the original diet for man/woman ?

Quote from: 3AM on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:17:59

One Question:   Did God make Adam & Eve a meat eater, or vegetarian ?



That question, properly answered, should close all discussion, as to whether man is suppose to eat flesh foods, or not.

In other words, what was the original diet for man/woman ?

Pork chops grew on the trees.

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:24:45
Pork chops grew on the trees.

And you'll next tell me, that you have a money tree  in your back yard ?

Quote from: 3AM on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:28:13

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:24:45
Pork chops grew on the trees.

And you'll next tell me, that you have a money tree  in your back yard ?

Nope.

Here is a question for you:

Did Jesus eat lamb and fish?

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:31:15

Quote from: 3AM on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:28:13

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:24:45
Pork chops grew on the trees.

And you'll next tell me, that you have a money tree  in your back yard ?

Nope.

Here is a question for you:

Did Jesus eat lamb and fish?

Yes Sir.

And, they were kosher.

Meaning, no blood in them, at all.

God says not to eat any flesh foods with the blood in them.

And the blood, is what gives meats their flavor.

We are following a heart healthy diet, losing weight and feeling good.  My wife gives me every vitamin know to man , we eat lost of veg., fish, chicken, a little meat, Green beans, Lima beans, butter beans, navy beans, pinto beans, brown beans but you can keep the soy beans.  Tofu is terrible and burgers should be made of beef not soy beans.  I feed them to my cows so I can have a good burger.

Quote from: 3AM on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:41:06

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:31:15

Quote from: 3AM on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:28:13

Quote from: Gary on Fri Jun 05, 2009 - 19:24:45
Pork chops grew on the trees.

And you'll next tell me, that you have a money tree  in your back yard ?

Nope.

Here is a question for you:

Did Jesus eat lamb and fish?

Yes Sir.

And, they were kosher.

Meaning, no blood in them, at all.

God says not to eat any flesh foods with the blood in them.

And the blood, is what gives meats their flavor.

I don't eat meat with blood in them.  Guess my bacon must be kosher.