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I am going to my OBGYN on Tuesday to get a checkup and talk about "birth control options".
I guess it's standard after giving birth? I don't know.

Anyway. I really don't want to be put on birth control because I feel that it is really unnatural to stop a woman's monthly cycle like some birth control options do, and I'm also worried that God may not approve of it. Any thoughts?

Also, I heard that taking Plan B is just like having an abortion, and here I am, having taken Plan B at least 4 times!
I just don't know what to do, I had no idea I've had 4 abortions until a few months ago when I researched it...



[Also, before some of you say anything... I am married, so fornication is out of the question...]

Well this is my advice and opinion, there are so many birth control options out there. I personally have taken the pill which I had it still once a month, I also have taken the Depo shot which I didn't have it at ALL for about a year since being on it.  But come to find out the depo can cause bone loss later in life so I had stopped. One that I have spoken to my Dr about was Device that was inserted for 5 years, you still get a period but a light one. Hope that helps so there is options as far as that.

As far as abortion and Plan B, I know God says it wrong abortion no matter how you go about doing it. But there is also forgiveness and he also says to repent and turn away from sin and live for him and with him. But if you didn't know truly then you ask for forgiveness and it will be forgiven. I am pro-life myself but try not to be nasty but speak out of love when talkin about it.  My feelings on it is god says it wrong and it is. I dont compromise that fact. When I do they come back with it as well i am also but what about  rape, well this is it.

You have a few different categories:

1. Instead of handing a condom and making it "well if you are then at least use something" instead try teaching not to at all and then the consequences.

2. Well I feel that is a woman is raped THAT ALONE will stay with her for the rest of her life anyway, wether there is a baby from it or not.  There are other options!

3.  Then you have married people who "Dont want children" well then there are options to besides being careful...

Hope that helped and May God bless you with whatever you choose as you look to him first for GUIEDANCE...

JKelli-

The reason Doctors suggest the "Pill" is because it has chemicals in it to either help regulate your monthly cycle or adjust it correctly after giving birth.

The only problem is, it also has other chemicals in them, which can cause other side effects or problems to other partsd of the body.

the most recent young Pastor at my old "Home church", has a wife who goes on some medical treatment after every birth. It made a world of difference in how her body adjusted and corrected itself. I'd have to ask what that was tho to know for sure.

The "Pill" is suggested because it costs less than the Prescription Drug, but as mentioned, there are other possibly worse side effects, since all women are individual.

I know you don't like taking Drugs, particularly after a birth, as this can be transmitted thru the milk to the baby. But, if I were you, I'd investigate this furhter to see what options are available, other than the "Pill".

God Bless!!

Plan B is not abortion. The abortion pill is called RU or something. Good luck. Have you thought of an IUD?

Quote from: .kelli on Fri Jun 19, 2009 - 16:01:44
I am going to my OBGYN on Tuesday to get a checkup and talk about "birth control options".
I guess it's standard after giving birth? I don't know.

Anyway. I really don't want to be put on birth control because I feel that it is really unnatural to stop a woman's monthly cycle like some birth control options do, and I'm also worried that God may not approve of it. Any thoughts?

Also, I heard that taking Plan B is just like having an abortion, and here I am, having taken Plan B at least 4 times!
I just don't know what to do, I had no idea I've had 4 abortions until a few months ago when I researched it...



[Also, before some of you say anything... I am married, so fornication is out of the question...]

Hi Kelli,

I don't personally think that Plan B is the equivalent of having an abortion, but it's definitely not good, and I feel that it's against God's will for us.  If it "is" an abortion, then I have had two as well.  I have taken it twice.  Do I actually deeply regret this?  Yes.  I had struggled with this for quite awhile after taking these seemingly meaningless pills.  It seemed so easy, such an easy solution.  But I could have had a baby, and now I have.....nothing.  So, do we need to take this issue seriously and educate other women about it?  Absolutely.  But, I personally don't think that taking Plan B is the equivalent of having an abortion.  But I was very touched by taking it (not in a good way).  So I understand, and I hear you loud and clear. 

I also feel that it is against God's will for us to take birth control, unless we have a very good reason for it...ie...you have eight kids.  But I don't know...I guess I kindof have mixed feelings about it.  What if you have 5 kids and want to stop there?  Does God burn in His wrath for you because you have done this?  I don't think so.  But, here is where I feel it is wrong for people to take birth control pills...when they are perfectly capable and able to care for a child, but CHOOSE to take the pill because it's more "convenient"/I don't want kids right now/ I am young and clueless and I just want to have sex, but not kids.  Mainly the last one.  SO many young people are swindled and hoodwinked into committing fornication because of the availability of the birth control pill.  Have you noticed that the rate of kids moving in together/shacking up without marriage has increased since the introduction of the pill?  That is no coincidence, I think.  I think that the pill has given people the "freedom to fornicate".  This may be a controversial comment, and I know some people will disagree with me, but YES, I do think birth control pills are WRONG and unbiblical when they are used in the wrong fashion....basically so we can just have sex without any "consequences" and outside of marriage.  Are all people who use birth control pills fornicators?  No.  But the pill has given (some) people the license to fornicate.  I don't think you can argue with me there.  It has changed the perspective/attitude etc.  of our young people who have access to such so-called technologies.   What is this world coming to. 

"and I shall mourn for many who have sinned before and have not repented of the uncleanness, FORNICATION, and lewdness which they have practiced." 2 Corinthians 12:21 

And who was the Church of Corinth?  Only the most sexually perverse church on the planet at the time. 

The living word speaks volumes.  Let it speak to you today.

Kristina

The problem is, all these man made ways of birth control are only about 70 % or a bit higher in true protection. The other side of that is, each device or "pill" taken to prevent pregnancy can cause a much higher number of problems than being effectual at birth control.

to me, wether its a woman or man using such forms are stupid for the "accidental" pregnancies that occur because even with thier use, no one really takes the time to effectively check those products to be sure they are holding up or good to start with, or forgetting the "pill" etc.

Its better if a woman pulls the diaphram every so often to ensure no holes have developed in it, or removes the IUD to keep the female canal from scarring from the device in the same place too long, or men with condoms to test them to be sure of no pin holes etc.

Thats why we have so many negatives in this day and age happening because of the loose open sexual society we live in tofday. Man has corrupted the sanctity of something God designed and reserved only for married couples.

Like I said, check the statistics. And I suggest "abortions" are high enough occurring without the help of Christians adding to it.

God Bless!!

I think plan B is just a large dose of birth control and then there is something that flushes the nutrients away from the zygote and it is just discharged.  I dont think this debate has anything to do with "free" sex vs married sex but what fun would the debate be if that were not the case lol.  Its about the ability or the will to raise a child (which has got really expensive becuase the line between need and want has become blured), some married couples are not ready for a kid or may never want one that does not mean they are going to be celebate there whole lives to expect that is foolishness.  I guess you could practice more oral sex, not trying to be gross but that would definitly prevent pregnancy.

It is a really simple logic loop

If you dont believe in birth control and want to have sex THEN
expect the possibility of getting pregnant.
If you want to have sex and dont want kids THEN
you use birth control or only practice oral sex or get your tubes tied

Its like saying I dont believe in changing the oil in my car but I still want to drive it, I dont understand how these threads generate pages and pages of posts in some cases.  It is really easy for the church to guilt people into things but at the end of the day they are not going to raise the kid YOU are, so why should they have a right to speak into your life about such matters.

I have never thought that God is against a couple being sensible and cautious about not having loads of children that they cannot look after or provide for. In my first marriage we had 3 children and I used various methods until my husband had a vasectomy.
My second husband also had a vasectomy in his first marriage after he and his wife had 2 children. I definitely wouldn't have wanted any more that three kids, and we didn't have the room or the money to have any more.
I don't know why some think it is godly to have loads and loads of kids rather than use sensible birth control. Listen to what you are advised and speak to your husband and decide between you what to do.

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Quote from: Hehealedme on Sun Jul 19, 2009 - 02:05:37
When we first got married, my husband was 23 years old and I was 30...I was more than ready to have children, but he wasn't...I would have loved to have at least two living children but it didn't happen that way...I had to wait for my husband to be ready for us to have children so I had to take the pill much longer periods of time than I would have wanted...

We first had a daughter. She is now 18 years old. I was then 33 years old...then three years later came our son that died 20 days later due to complications from having Spina Bifida. Another three years went by and I got pregnant again only to have a misscarriage in the first month of my pregnancy.

A year later, since my husband wouldn't hear on having a vasectomy and I didn't want to take the pill any longer due to my age, I didn't have much choice but to have my tubes tied which I did with a broken heart. First because I had turned 40 years old that year, and second because if I had had another pregnancy, according to the statistics, it would have been too risky for me to have another baby with Spina Bifida that could have had even more complications than the first one that I had, or, I could easily have ended up having multiple misscarriages...

Wow.  I can't imagine going thru what you had to go thru.  I just can't imagine it.  I hear you though, about part of what you said, about wanting to have children, but the guy was not into having children.  I was with a man for about 2 years, who I thought I was going to marry (prior to becoming a true Christian)  anyways...so he had absolutely no interest in having children and in fact thought it was a horrible idea and wanted me to do anything necessary...wanted me on birth control, wanted me to take Plan B.  I however, was a wimp about it and did not really ever tell him that I wanted nothing more than a beautiful child with him.  I really really wanted that, but never told him.  I instead took the wimpy round about approach at the time and did not go on birth control, which I know realize was a) the wrong approach and b) kindof manipulative!!  But, we used other protection, and I had other reasons for not wanting to be on birth control, because of other medicine I was taking, etc. 

So, there came to a point when the protection we were using failed and he frankly told me "do something about this...right?  aren't you going to ?"  (not in those exact words, but that's the basic point) .

I with hesitation ( and one of the biggest mistakes of my life ) took the Plan B pill to prevent any chance of pregnancy.  I deeply regret that decision. 

I would urge anyone who is young and reading this, to carefully consider the emotional impact of the decision to take birth control pills or the Plan B pill.  There can be a lasting emotional impact.  Of course, it could just be the emotional impact of me wanting to have kids with this man when he didn't want them.  Sigh.  Other lesson...be careful who you get involved with...do they truly love you if they don't want to have children with you?  Or I suppose it could be a million other reasons why they DONT want to have kids, but if they truly wanted to make you happy then why on earth wouldn't they want this with you? 

In God's Love

Kristina

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If you want to be able to trust another human being to the point that you feel they will never, ever disappoint or hurt you in any way... Well, you can't. No human being is infallible.

But, if the way you deal with it is to close yourself up and give no one else a chance to hurt you ever again -- that's not good.  Keep working to draw your self esteem from God and the way He sees you.

As far as birth control methods, you need to do your research online about all suggested methods, and weigh the pros and cons of each.

If the goal is to avoid conceiving a baby, the best birth control is self control.  Of course that takes a lot of negotiation, cooperation, and knowledge about your body's cycles.

What other goals would you have for birth control?

I for example use a birth control pill as a hormone therapy.  As I've aged, my menstrual periods were getting longer, with heavier flows, and much more pain and cramping and unpredictable bleed-throughs.  So, I use the pill you take three months at a time.  That way I only have to contend with four periods a year, and they are very manageable, not too heavy, not debilitating at all.  (We have no need for actual birth control, Hubby having had a vasectomy -- the babies were getting progressively bigger, taller, and more and more overdue!)

I've done my research, weighed the pros and cons of other possibilities, and found that the pills I use are the best for me at this time.

Keep in mind, when you read all the Bible background on the Lord blessing people with children, that the folks in the story were counting the numbers of kids as a form of wealth.  Also a form of retirement income.  The women were counting on having lots of kids, especially sons, as part of what made a valuable woman in that day and time.  We here and now do not live in a time and place where kids are needed in that way.  So, I have no problem with forms of birth control that get in the way of conception.

But, "sanctity of life" issues still apply.  Life is the same precious gift it's always been.  So, I do have problems with forms of birth control that snuff out a started life, things that cause the loss of a conceived human being.

Do your research.  Realize that the Lord can heal and forgive any blunders you have made, and will make in this area of life.

hehealedme. Please dont allow your ex husband to make you distrust all men. If this happens he has won again hasnt he. My first husband deeply hurt me and damaged my children terribly, but now I am married to the best guy ever.
He is the most honest, decent and godly man that I have ever met and there really are other men out there like that. Sometimes I do struggle with thinking I will loose him as well and get myself worried, , but that is becuase of what has happeneed in the past and not becuase he is like that. I also have a son and a brother who are also good men and many of the men in my church and who we know as friends are good and godly men.

Dont let one bad apple ruin the whole bunch.

My husbands ex betrayed him with another man but he doesnt worry at all that I will repeat that.he trusts me also.There are some bad women out there as well who betray their husbands, such as my husbands ex, so it isnt just a man thing.


Please allow yourself to learn to trust others again. I know life is painful sometimes but if we never trust then we can never really live.

 Kelly,had husband neutered after third child. I feel great about it.