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Genesis 2:18: "It is not good for man to be alone - I will create a helper suitable for Him".

Funny how God would say such a bold statement, yet prove the exact opposite with His actions (Or lack there of).

Hi, I'm Mike. 21 years old, and been a born again Christian since I was in the 1st grade. Between then and now, I have felt the pressense of God enough to know without a doubt He is real, I have seen miracles and Gods power displayed enough times to know that there is nothing beyond His power, and I have led more people to salvation than most people do in their ENTIRE lives. Yet I only lack one thing - the love and comfort of another human. If you are like me, and have cried out passionately to God for that special person - a soul mate, yet are still single and consumed by loneliness, I've got some things to share with you... What God is doing to you is nothing short of neglect.
If God really loved me, then my deepest feelings, my deepest desires, they would all matter to Him. Same for you. It's funny how He can create this whole Earth, moon, stars and universe, yet He can't even do something as simple as help someone like me find a life partner or a relationship.

I have come to expose Gods deception. His love He claims for us is a lie. He died only to enslave us, because we were no use to Him as hells corspes. Think I'm wrong? Just look at how He mistreats people like me and others who are single? Can you believe there are people in there 30's and 40's who have never been with someone? What foul misery! In my life I have seen and tasted light and dark for what they truely are - just two factions with too much power, squabbling over hearts and religion while the rest of us burn. God and Satan are like dumb and dumber. Theres the God who doesn't know how to use His powers or back up His words with actions, and then theres the Devil who was dumb enough to betray Him and get kicked outta heaven.

Where was God when I needed a hand to hold? Where was God when I needed SOMEONE to hold? Where was God when I was freezing outside and had no one to cuddle and stay warm with? God is a real being but as long as He is not there for me in any physical or emotional way, He might as well be just an illusion. Until we actually reach that place in Heaven where we can actually dive into Gods arms, we cannot touch our God. The least He could do is give us something to safice, someone to hold for the time we're waiting, to make it a little bit less miserable? I firmly believe the gift of love and marriage to be the most beautiful and greatest thing next to God. Yet I am being denied. I have asked, knocked, yet recieved not. Now my loneliness has caused my heart to become calloused and hardened. Why should I be alone? As far as I'm concerned, until God actually comes out of hiding and cowardice and actually backs up His words with actions, then His love for us is a lie.

And I dare someone to try and prove me wrong. Just know that I've got an ARSENAL of scriptures to back myself up, and chances are you'll only have empty words with nothing to back them up.

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Mike you are talking like a spoiled brat...  words to back that up?

Your own... in your post.  I have 7 kids...  and 4 of them older than you...  I'd tell them to knock off the self pity and do something with themselves... go to college...  get a hobby...  do some charity and stop thinking only of themselves.

Quote from: Hehealedme on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 01:47:53
You are obviously a very angry individual, Mike...how sad...please don't let the devil manipulate and deceive you...I will pray for you tonight...

I wouldn't be so angry if God actually cared and gave me someone to love and center my life around. I mean, who the heck WANTS to be lonely?

Quote from: kensington on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 01:53:47
Mike you are talking like a spoiled brat...  words to back that up? Your own... in your post.  I have 7 kids...  and 4 of them older than you...  I'd tell them to knock off the self pity and do something with themselves... go to college...  get a hobby...  do some charity and stop thinking only of themselves.

You are a fool. You're saying that I am a spoiled brat for suffering. For all you know I HAVE done SEVERAL things with myself and my life, and I'm sick of doing them BY MYSELF. Tired of feeling like an ox hauling a weighty wagon, without that second ox by my side. It'd be a LITTLE nice to have someone to share my life with.

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Quote from: Hehealedme on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 02:14:40
Very demanding, aren't we Mike...no wonder you are still alone...think about that!...

Maybe I just got tired of Gods pathetic little silent treatment mind game bs. I've waited a long time already. Now if you mean to say I'd be demanding towards "her", I wouldn't. To be honest, it's not entirely for me. I'm actually kind of upset because I have no one to center my life around. I go through all the hell to pay the bills and put the food on the table, and I'd kinda like to be able to do that for her, and my future kids. Without that I feel like my life is meaningless and incomplete.

Quote from: Mike619 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 02:08:34

Quote from: Hehealedme on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 01:47:53
You are obviously a very angry individual, Mike...how sad...please don't let the devil manipulate and deceive you...I will pray for you tonight...

I wouldn't be so angry if God actually cared and gave me someone to love and center my life around. I mean, who the heck WANTS to be lonely?

Quote from: kensington on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 01:53:47
Mike you are talking like a spoiled brat...  words to back that up? Your own... in your post.  I have 7 kids...  and 4 of them older than you...  I'd tell them to knock off the self pity and do something with themselves... go to college...  get a hobby...  do some charity and stop thinking only of themselves.

You are a fool. You're saying that I am a spoiled brat for suffering. For all you know I HAVE done SEVERAL things with myself and my life, and I'm sick of doing them BY MYSELF. Tired of feeling like an ox hauling a weighty wagon, without that second ox by my side. It'd be a LITTLE nice to have someone to share my life with.

Ahh... well ... now there in lies the problem...  You don't understand the whole Yoke principle.  Two Ox should not be yoked together... as the Ox will plow in circles.... so they would yoke an Ox with a mule because the mule will be stubborn and go straight... thus the two yoked together can plow a square field, with straight lines and corners.

And purpose for the yoking of them is not for pulling the weighty wagon... it is for plowing the field for harvest.  You need to be more worried about the harvest than what is in your wagon.  You are 21...  been saved since you were 3.  Jesus was 33 before He actually suffered loneliness and rejection.  Have you yet suffered what He endured unto death?

If you want to serve God, then serve Him.  If not... then quit.  Have you survived Cancer?  Have you fought in a War?  What have you yet to sacrifice for someone else?  

I won't sit here and beg you to Love God or serve him.   If you don't want to... quit.  

Mike you are barely an adult, You are only 21 years old. You talk as if you are 50 and still single.
My son is 31 and he met the girl that he wants to marry last year when he was 30. My older daughter is nearly 29 and is still waiting for her man. Hardly anyone has met that special someone at your age.
yes it is normal to want someone special in your life, but to get angry and bitter at God for not having met that special someone at 21 is very extreme.

Live your life, get involved in your church. My daughter went to uni at 26 to do a degree. She cant find a part time job so she is volunteering in a charity shop for a children's hospice. She is getting involved in the children's work at her church. She went to Africa this summer to help at a children's orphanage there.She bought herself a guitar and is learning to play it herself.
My son helps at a youth club. he is going to run a  cell group every week for teenagers. he is also going to teach the 11-14 years olds on a sunday morning.. he went to South Africa this summer as a part of a mission trip. He told the kids there about Jesus. The world is your oyster.
Get involved in a young peoples group at church.Make friends, get to know many others of your age. do stuff together.

maybe God is waiting for you to mature a bit before he brings that special girl into your life. Throw yourself into things so that you dont have time to get bitter about it. You wont attract a girl the way you are, but you will if you are friendly and involved and doing stuff. 

My guess is that you are maybe from  an unloving family and are looking for a girl to fill that gap. Well I have news for you, she wont. Only God can fill that gap for love that you are wanting. No one person can do that.You need to be free of this anger and bitterness before you will be ready for a healthy relationship anyway.

I second the spoiled brat comments.

Apart from that, read Job.

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Ahh... well ... now there in lies the problem...  You don't understand the whole Yoke principle.  Two Ox should not be yoked together... as the Ox will plow in circles.... so they would yoke an Ox with a mule because the mule will be stubborn and go straight... thus the two yoked together can plow a square field, with straight lines and corners.

You're missing the point. The point is I'm lonely and don't want to be lonely anymore.

QuoteAnd purpose for the yoking of them is not for pulling the weighty wagon... it is for plowing the field for harvest.  You need to be more worried about the harvest than what is in your wagon. 

I don't care about the harvest. I care about my fulfillment and hers, whoever she is. The rest of the world can burn for all I care. If I had this person I would be happy, and therefore I'd have strength to harvest.

QuoteYou are 21...  been saved since you were 3.  Jesus was 33 before He actually suffered loneliness and rejection.   
Have you yet suffered what He endured unto death?

If you want to serve God, then serve Him.  If not... then quit.

I never quit on God. He quit on me, even when I still tried to serve Him.

QuoteHave you survived Cancer?  Have you fought in a War? 

Uhhh, what the heck do these have to do with getting a babe?

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Mike you are barely an adult, You are only 21 years old. You talk as if you are 50 and still single.

Uhh excuse me, but I have waited a long time. A lot longer than I've wanted to wait. I hit puberty when I was friggen 10, alright? I think I've waited long enough. Why should I tollerate this crap?

QuoteMy son is 31 and he met the girl that he wants to marry last year when he was 30. My older daughter is nearly 29 and is still waiting for her man. Hardly anyone has met that special someone at your age.

Yeah cause God doesn't love them enough to give them what they need sooner. If I have to wait til I'm 25+ then God can just put up with me sleeping around. And I'll have my payback, when I start a church burning crusade, lead other people away from believing in Him.

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yes it is normal to want someone special in your life, but to get angry and bitter at God for not having met that special someone at 21 is very extreme.

So you're saying I should be happy that I am miserable? Are you stupid?

QuoteLive your life, get involved in your church. My daughter went to uni at 26 to do a degree. She cant find a part time job so she is volunteering in a charity shop for a children's hospice. She is getting involved in the children's work at her church. She went to Africa this summer to help at a children's orphanage there.She bought herself a guitar and is learning to play it herself.
My son helps at a youth club. he is going to run a  cell group every week for teenagers. he is also going to teach the 11-14 years olds on a sunday morning.. he went to South Africa this summer as a part of a mission trip. He told the kids there about Jesus. The world is your oyster.
Get involved in a young peoples group at church.Make friends, get to know many others of your age. do stuff together.

I do go out and do church related stuff. All of the girls I ever meet are either too young, already taken, and the rare few that pretend to like me just end up leading me on then drop me off of a dang cliff.

QuoteThrow yourself into things so that you dont have time to get bitter about it. You wont attract a girl the way you are, but you will if you are friendly and involved and doing stuff. 

Why distract myself? Thats like being on a sinking boat throwing some of the water out, ignoring the very hole that is FILLING it with water in the first place! I want solutions, not distractions.

QuoteMy guess is that you are maybe from  an unloving family and are looking for a girl to fill that gap. Well I have news for you, she wont.Only God can fill that gap for love that you are wanting. No one person can do that.

If that were true I could hold Him and touch Him right now. You cannot cuddle with God, therefore He cannot fill this hole. And no offense, but girls are pretty, God is not.

QuoteYou need to be free of this anger and bitterness before you will be ready for a healthy relationship anyway.

Indeed, but also realzie if I had her, I would have the comfort I need to not be lonely anymore, which would kill the anger at its source.

Wow you have PROBLEMS. YOU are immature, angry, bitter, resentful and totally selfish.
So you think that if God doesn't find you a girlfriend NOW you have the excuse to sleep around? Well you don't. The only person who you will hurt will be yourself. Do you think He is scared at your threats? Well He isn't believe me.  You are only 21 that is nothing.You also sound extremely spoilt, demanding and manipulative, more like a 5 year old than a 21 year old..Do you really think that a good father gives his children EVERYTHING that they ask for?Of course he doesnt We have all asked for things that we didnt get. So what.

You don't go to church, you care nothing about anyone but yourself,you cant be bothered about doing anything for anyone and then you wonder why no girl is interested?. Listen to this. No girl will be interested in you the way you are.Believe me, they will run a  mile.

you feel you are entitled to whatever you demand, and you hate God and blame him wrongly for your unhappiness. HE is not to blame and nothing will EVER change until your attitude does.You need to let go of this bitterness and anger and selfishness and allow God to work in you. . The longer you stay like this the more you will get resentful and the more it will eat you up and eventually destroy you.

Goodness me, do you really think you are the only one who has been through stuff? People here including myself have been through real life trauma that you couldn't even imagine. God is NOT responsible for these things, He is there to help. Do you think you are the only one who has been rejected by a girlfriend/boyfriend? Goodness there are many of us here whose marriages have been destroyed after many many years, That is rejection.

You need to take a long hard look at yourself and get help to sort this out. You don't want to turn into a lonely bitter old man do you?

I really hope that you don't treat those you meet like you have treated people here. If you do then no wonder you are lonely. People DO NOT want to be around bitter angry and resentful people. You will drive people away.

I think I've waited long enough. Why should I tollerate this crap?

I don't think you should...  Go on up there to Heaven and take God's throne from Him and show Him who is boss dagnabbit!   

Mike619---

Have you ever heard a child asking their Mom or Dad for something that they were not ready for yet?  Sure--the kid thinks it's time---he's ready for it---confident it is best for him.  But his parents KNOW BETTER.  So they say "no". They love the child and want what is BEST FOR HIM.  His impatience is real--he feels he's being cheated, and complains loudly that his parents are unfair, etc.  And his complaints are real and heart-felt.  To him his parents are being harsh and unloving.  But it is not the case.  They truly love him and want only what will result in the absolute best  for him.

And God treats us the same way. We WANT what WE WANT and complain when we don't get it.  We can't understand when God seems to WITHOLD what we think is good from us.  But we need to remember that God has His own timing---he alone KNOWS when you are ready---and WILL ANSWER your prayer Mike. He REALLY WILL----and you will be so grateful you waited for His answer, and did not do something stupid in your impatience.  I myself can testify to how bad an impatient decision can be!   Wait for the Lord Mike----He definitely WILL bring what is best into your life.  You are young and impatient---most young people are.  But the Lord truly is good, and He will come through for you.  He is the GOOD SHEPHERD.

"Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take". (Prove. 3:5,6 NLT)

We think we have it ALL FIGURED OUT-----we KNOW what's best for us---LOL---we want to depend on our own understanding----but God says-----

"Trust me!  Seek My will. I'll show you the right path to walk---and one day, as you walk that path your help-mate will appear----and you will be so glad you waited!!"

God loves you Mike!!  

When you don't "need" someone anymore, then you will be ready to have someone.

In the meantime, why don't you try to become the person that the woman you would want, would want to be with.

Quote from: kensington on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 23:13:54
I think I've waited long enough. Why should I tollerate this crap?

I don't think you should...  Go on up there to Heaven and take God's throne from Him and show Him who is boss dagnabbit!   

Lol.  That wasn't very sensitive, but it's about right.  Sounds a lot like the book of Job to me.

It's why God sent the Holy Spirit to be with us... so we can remain single and do the Lords work instead of get chained to someone we have to take care of the rest of our lives that become a big distraction in our christian lives.

If an when you learn to be happy with the Holy Spirit guiding your life then maybe he might grant you the lesser of two evils and give you a wife.

Quote... I wouldn't be so angry if God actually cared and gave me someone to love and center my life around. I mean, who the heck WANTS to be lonely?

He traded His only conceived Son for you.  He allowed His son to be tortured and tormented and spat upon and torn to bits and cruelly hung up to die in what was considered the nastiest most shameful most degrading way to be executed in that time and place.

He allowed Jesus to hang instead of you.

You say God doesn't care?  I've heard a lot of off-the-wall statements over the years, but very few have sounded any more like blasphemy than that.

And He already gave you someone to love and center your life around.  He gave you Himself.  He specifically gave you His Son -- He bought you back, for Himself, by sending His son to pay to get you off that auction block.  His Holy Spirit, the very essence of His presence, is willing to be with you forever.  Just because one is alone doesn't mean one has to be lonely.

You might be better husband material after you get yourself straight with God.  You are a mere child yet.  I have panties older than you.   You have many years left in which to find a spouse with God's help, or not.

Exactly how are you going about trying to find someone, anyway?

You really need to clean out your "drawahs" janine.

I've got shoes older than he is, too.

I may have stuff in the freezer older, too.

 

Mike, I love ya...been in relationship for 24 years ---been single finally for four ---
I'm in heavan and have never felt loneliness.

Wouldn't trade singlehood for anything.

Quote from: chosenone on Mon Aug 31, 2009 - 12:44:54
YOU are immature, angry, bitter, resentful and totally selfish.

That's nice. At least I give a dang about myself. People who go cutting themselves and killing themselves are idiots. Me, I am the opposite of suicide. In self harm there is no gain, only loss. I want myself to gain. It's better to hurt someone else than hurt yourself. That's the cruelity that has been born in this suffering. Before I once used to let my hurting feelings walk all over me, and be mr.depresso. It only hurt me. So instead of drowning myself in my own tears, I thought it would be better to fight my pain, with how much I despise it. Thats the source of all my rage right there. I wouldn't be so angry if I wasn't so hurt any lonely, but I guess God doesn't care enough to give me what I need to be comforted out of that pain.

QuoteSo you think that if God doesn't find you a girlfriend NOW you have the excuse to sleep around?

No, I think since God hasn't given me a girlfriend after all this painful terrible ridiculous waiting, I should not have to wait anymore. If He has a problem with it, He should be giving me what I need to be appropriate, which is what I friggen wanted in the first place. It's not my fault He's so damn slow. I have feelings too ya know?

QuoteDo you think He is scared at your threats?

Not at all. My actions are not to instill fear upon the fearless Lord. No, my actions are to make Him pay, by hurting His feelings, bringing shame to His name, leading other people away from Him. I know if I had a son and He rebelled against me and turned my other kids against me, I would be hurt inside more than almost any other thing, and for Gods failure I am going to put Him through that hurt until He gives me my babe.

QuoteYou also sound extremely spoilt, demanding and manipulative, more like a 5 year old than a 21 year old..

I am intelligent, and full of passion. I have chosen to play the cards that God has dealt me in life, no matter how terrible they are. Though there are many worse hands, this one is paticularly dire.

QuoteDo you really think that a good father gives his children EVERYTHING that they ask for?

I'm not asking for everything. I'm only asking for one thing, and the longer I wait without it, the more I hurt, and I don't wanna hurt anymore. The hurt is too much for me. I have asked nicely, many times, or pleaded and begged in desperation, many times. It didn't work. If something doesn't work, the logical thing to do is try something else. So after trying everything else I've decided I am done asking nicely.

QuoteWe have all asked for things that we didnt get. So what.

This one thing matters to me more than any other. It wouldn't matter to me like this if I were begging God for some nice car or nice house, or to be rich or famous. I really don't care about those things, I trust God to take care of my basic needs (Food, shelter, finances, etc)

QuoteYou don't go to church,

Actually, I do... So you don't know what you're talking about.

Quoteyou care nothing about anyone but yourself,

Not entirely true. The people who are close to me are very important. Everyone else, strangers, they mean anything to me.

QuoteNo girl will be interested in you the way you are.Believe me, they will run a  mile.

Rather than spitting words of doom and condemnation at me, why don't you point me in the direction of the keys out of this prison of being single? You 'are' a true loving Christian, are you not?

Quoteyou hate God and blame him wrongly for your unhappiness.

I actually don't hate God. I'm just fiercely ticked off at Him right now. I still pray, praise Him, read His Word, and have a relationship with Him. The only problem is this fierce loneliness that is causing me to be angry with Him. Other than that I do really want things to work out. Otherwise I wouldn't be here right now, talking to you guys, hoping I get some kind of real solution out of all of this.

QuoteYou need to let go of this bitterness and anger and selfishness and allow God to work in you. .

It wouldn't be there if He started to care about me again.

Quotedo you really think you are the only one who has been through stuff?

No. We all have our own battles and wounds. But I don't have the strength to help others in their battles or wounds until I am clear of this one. A warrior without food or rest, isn't able to fight well in a war.

QuoteGod is NOT responsible for these things,

No, He just sat there and let them happen, kinda like a dad watching two criminals beat on his daughter right infront of him, and he just sits there as she cries out to him, and he does nothing, until they beat her, rape her, bleed her, and leave her lying in the sandbox. That whole time she cried out and He could of stopped it, with the gun in his hand, but instead He chose to neglect her and not own up to the responsibility of caring for his daughter.

QuoteHe is there to help.

If He is then He will prove it to me. But I don't see Him telling me where and how to meet her, let alone how to prepare myself to make the relationship even more awesome.

QuoteDo you think you are the only one who has been rejected by a girlfriend/boyfriend? Goodness there are many of us here whose marriages have been destroyed after many many years, That is rejection.

I really don't care. I didn't come here to get involved in others peoples problems, I came here to find a solution for mine. Maybe later when I have someone, I'll be feeling better and feel like coming back and help those people. But with how I feel now, I just want to make someone hurt until I find my girl. (No that is not a threat, I only hurt people verbally)

QuoteI really hope that you don't treat those you meet like you have treated people here. If you do then no wonder you are lonely. People DO NOT want to be around bitter angry and resentful people. You will drive people away.

Like I said before, the friends and people that I truely know, mean a lot to me. Total strangers, I usually couldn't give a less. There are exceptions because I am always up for meeting new people. Other than that, if I don't know you, then you have no value to me. In fact if I had to slaughter a hundred people to get my girl, (And not get hurt or locked up for it) then I would do it with delight, and with no guilt. That's what happens when pain hardens your heart.

Quote from: fish153 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 - 11:58:07
Have you ever heard a child asking their Mom or Dad for something that they were not ready for yet?  Sure--the kid thinks it's time---he's ready for it---confident it is best for him.  But his parents KNOW BETTER.  So they say "no". They love the child and want what is BEST FOR HIM.  His impatience is real--he feels he's being cheated, and complains loudly that his parents are unfair, etc.  And his complaints are real and heart-felt.  To him his parents are being harsh and unloving.  But it is not the case.  They truly love him and want only what will result in the absolute best  for him.

This is different. Hypatheticly this is more like a dad holding his sons toy right infront of his face, teasing him with it, acting like he's gonna give it to him, but not giving it to him. Tired of putting my face up against the friggen glass.

QuoteBut we need to remember that God has His own timing---

Gods timing sucks. If it were anything perfect He would have given this to me long ago and I would also be ready for it. Instead He fails to meet that perfection. So His timing is not perfect like the Word says. It's written in Psalms 37-3 "Delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart."

My desire is for this girl, for all if it to be awesome, and I have waited a long time already so I'd like it by like the end of this year. Sick of seeing everyone else having their relationships, while I'm still waiting to have my very first.

QuoteHe is the GOOD SHEPHERD.

That's why he's given me over to the wolves, right? What a loving good Shepard. Takes his sheep who loves Him, and watches him getting eaten by wolves right infront of him, as His sheep cries out to Him, and He just sits there starring.

Chirst needs to get crucified again.

QuoteWe think we have it ALL FIGURED OUT-----we KNOW what's best for us---LOL---we want to depend on our own understanding----

Well let me ask you something. When you get hungry do you wanna eat? You could have a lifetime supply of water available to you, but it will do no good for your hunger, only your thirst. And you will die of starvation if that is all you are given.

QuoteGod loves you Mike!!   

I really wish I could believe that. I just don't see it anymore.

Quote from: Elaine on Tue Sep 01, 2009 - 23:20:13


Mike, I love ya...been in relationship for 24 years ---been single finally for four ---
I'm in heavan and have never felt loneliness.

Wouldn't trade singlehood for anything.

Maybe God actually lets you feel Him all the time.
The rest of us? Not so lucky...

Quote from: janine on Tue Sep 01, 2009 - 19:49:31

He traded His only conceived Son for you.  He allowed His son to be tortured and tormented and spat upon and torn to bits and cruelly hung up to die in what was considered the nastiest most shameful most degrading way to be executed in that time and place. He allowed Jesus to hang instead of you.

You say God doesn't care?  I've heard a lot of off-the-wall statements over the years, but very few have sounded any more like blasphemy than that.

If someone takes a bullet for you to save your life, but for the rest of your lives they ignore you and turn their back on you, that person has stopped caring about you. That's figuretively what He's done to me.

QuoteJust because one is alone doesn't mean one has to be lonely.
He already gave you someone to love and center your life around.  He gave you Himself.  He specifically gave you His Son

That means little if I can't touch or cuddle with Him.

QuoteHe bought you back, for Himself, by sending His son to pay to get you off that auction block.  His Holy Spirit, the very essence of His presence, is willing to be with you forever.

Well I'm not in Heaven yet. When I get there, yes, I'll be entirely happy and lacking nothing. But here, I am lonely and hurt, in need of comfort while I wait for Heaven. I'm asking for just a little slice of Heaven on earth, a wife.

QuoteYou have many years left in which to find a spouse with God's help, or not.

What the hell makes you think I wanna wait more? I will not be young forever. Now is the time. Now is my prime. The younger I am the more time we'll get to have to enjoy eachothers youthful attraction and strength. The longer it takes, the less we'll get to have.

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Exactly how are you going about trying to find someone, anyway?

To be honest it is rather difficult. I go places, church, the mall, Cruisin Grand (Car show), the park, partys, kickbacks, or hanging out with friends. Most the girls I ever meet, are either too young, or already taken, or BOTH. The ones who aren't, that I find an interest in, usually act like they like me at first, but then either I move to fast and scare them away, or they pretend to like me but lead me on til they suddenly drop me cold, or show up with their new boyfriend who usually ends up treating them like crap or cheating on them. I have been hurt by a lot of girls, and I'm tired of it. It's like wandering thru a desert and I think I finally see water, then I dive in and get a mouth full of sand, finding out that it was only a mirrage. I have tried dating sites, both christian and secular, and with no result. It seems the only way this will work is if God arranges a meeting somehow and puts this person into my life. I wish He would stop stalling.

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Tue Sep 01, 2009 - 14:32:01
When you don't "need" someone anymore, then you will be ready to have someone.

That's like telling someone to stop getting hungry. No matter how much to deny the existance of your hunger for food, you will eventually starve. Hence, my soul and emotions have been starving, which has caused damage to my spiritual walk.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

I also think that someone with a reasonably articulate way of putting things, such as yourself, came here to vent, possibly?  But you have absolutely no intention of listening to alternate viewpoints or considering any possibilities other than your stated "God is a sadistic liar" attitude.

Time will tell whether you actually want to discuss anything, or whether you will vent and run.  Or stay and troll.

Quote from: janine on Wed Sep 02, 2009 - 00:40:20
I'm sorry you feel that way.

I also think that someone with a reasonably articulate way of putting things, such as yourself, came here to vent, possibly?  But you have absolutely no intention of listening to alternate viewpoints or considering any possibilities other than your stated "God is a sadistic liar" attitude.

Time will tell whether you actually want to discuss anything, or whether you will vent and run.  Or stay and troll.

Well I haven't heard any answers that are good. Any answer that involves just ignoring and continueing with my suffering, isn't going to put an end to this fierce torment.

Mike619  is there a dating service for christian singles that deals with people who are intrested in getting married and living according to the word of God ?

If not, then ......and I don't know how hard it would be     as I am not that way inclined

but could you start one up ?   I think there is a real need for this ministry within the body of Christ

I feel for you dude     really I do

and you might have to move  and try abroad    My brother went to America 2 times to get a wife    but ended up with a good old Kiwi girl back in New Zealand

Then there are many Philippino women etc who might be intrested    and that is not a joke

I have been over there on a mission trip       Maybe that is where your future wife might be    on the mission field

who knows     I have a friend who is in the same boat and NZ is so small

Quote from: bemark on Wed Sep 02, 2009 - 01:34:56
and you might have to move  and try abroad    My brother went to America 2 times to get a wife    but ended up with a good old Kiwi girl back in New Zealand

Then there are many Philippino women etc who might be intrested    and that is not a joke

I have been over there on a mission trip       Maybe that is where your future wife might be    on the mission field

who knows     I have a friend who is in the same boat and NZ is so small

You know, to be honest I actually kinda of have a thing for Philipino girls. They're actually my favorite. But I really don't have the money to afford a trip like that, nor do I know of any churchs having missions to that area.

Its a starting point     pray to God and set yourself to go

I believe that God gives us the desires of our heart    Leah came first but so then did Rachael  14 years  

set aside $10 dollars a week as a sign of faith and I believe with you as 2 agreeing on earth that it will be done in heaven    That God will provide the way


research more my brother       and if anyone else knows how it can be done   HELP

To be honest bemark... I would not wish this guy on my worst enemy.  Can you imagine what will happen the first time she (a wife) lets him down or disappoints him?  What if she is sick one day and doesn't want sex?  Or his dinner is not on the table at EXACTLY 5:00? 

Maybe God has not sent him a wife, because he is not husband material.  He wants to own something and he wants to own it NOW!

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 02, 2009 - 02:26:55
To be honest bemark... I would not wish this guy on my worst enemy.  Can you imagine what will happen the first time she (a wife) lets him down or disappoints him?  What if she is sick one day and doesn't want sex?  Or his dinner is not on the table at EXACTLY 5:00? 

Maybe God has not sent him a wife, because he is not husband material.  He wants to own something and he wants to own it NOW!

He might come forth    a frustrated man says some silly things   and there is time to improve

a lot of time      and a Godly women is what he needs to bring stability to his life

You are so nice...  Peace.

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 02, 2009 - 03:44:36
You are so nice...  Peace.

God always looks towards us for good and not for evil    Until we die there is a plan    2 off them


call down the blueprint of heaven     as it is in heaven

I will call forth that plan , the  plan of hope,  the plan of salvation .  The plan of victory

why he died     so we can be free


Peace    Ha Ha Ha   we win

Quote from MIke
Gods timing sucks. If it were anything perfect He would have given this to me long ago and I would also be ready for it. Instead He fails to meet that perfection. So His timing is not perfect like the Word says. It's written in Psalms 37-3 "Delight yourself in the Lord and He will give you the desires of your heart."

My desire is for this girl, for all if it to be awesome, and I have waited a long time already so I'd like it by like the end of this year. Sick of seeing everyone else having their relationships, while I'm still waiting to have my very first.

answer
But you arent delighting yourself in The Lord, you are blaming Him you are attacking Him, you are blaspheming Him, so that verse doesnt actually apply to you.
Also you are not only blaming Him for not having a girlfriend, but you are now blaming him for you not being READY to have a girlfriend. You need to start taking responsibility for yourself and your actions and your thinking. Believe me, NOTHING will change until you do.
 
Bemark, I dont think his problem is lack of Christian girls, after all there are millions of Christian girls in the uSA, and more men that women in the church. I think it is his attitude and his antagonism towards others and God,and his selfishness. This isnt going to change with finding a girl wherever she may be from.

         Pray for him. Pray that he learn to love GOD,then Learn to love himself.  Then he'll be ready.  He doesn't
         get because he isn't ready to receive.

I think "Mike" is a troll.

It's always better to wait and learn first who your right soul mate is. Your headed for marriage right down the fast track and headed for divorce even faster. Take it from experience, your perfect for the statistic of divorce.

1. Is it better to take your time a wait for God to give you the right person (Even if that means waiting and looking for the next 5 or more years. Or

2. Is it better to find someone now get married now and have get divorced in 5 years. Be alone and have a Hugh child support payment each month. Then see if your unhappy and alone.

Which 2 choices to you prefer.

After 10 years from now you might look back and see the wisdom in this.

Why not expose yourself to more single groups. Go to more then 1 church, Get involved in more activities. Get yourself so busy in God's work that the girls start wanting you. Make yourself hard to get and they'll really see them go crazy over you.

Try pulling back and see what happens and give God a chance, You might find that your perfect soul mate is right around the corner but she's not ready yet.

He might be getting her prepared right now and you don't even know it.

You'll see, hang in there. God has a great gift for you.