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The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

Quote from: son of God on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 19:12:21

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

Right on the money there, Corbley.

So then let us look to the Word for guidance to our life habits.  (Phi 4:8)  Finally, my brothers, whatever things are true, whatever things are honest, whatever things are right, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report; if there is any virtue and if there is any praise, think on these things.

(Phi 4:9)  Do those things which you have also learned and received and heard and seen in me. And the God of peace shall be with you.
Virtually all know Christians of the first verse, right?  But it doesn't seem to get applied?  Why not?  The word states that it is proof of our heart state with God.  It is a litmus test that has come back vibrant red.  The petri dish is out of control.

I have seen so many go to seminars or stuff like Promise Keepers, but then when they get back to their real lives, they live their real soul state out, for it cannot be obvious.

Paul said to follow his example.  So how many examples do we really have now days?  Birds of a feather flock together.  So, not to boast, but to give an example for others ----

We have no TV
We listen to no sports
We have bible reading/discussion daily
We have IPODs and such for the family to listen to the Word at any given time, for any member of the family.
Quiet time after luch for the younger kids has the bible reading on IPOD going, so that they hear the Word :God will enlighten them on it in due time.

We really did almost nothing on the internet, even though I have a business, simply because it has become a virtual TV for so many.  Half a year ago, I got onto facebook for the express purpose of witnessing to Muslims, so that consumes the facebook time.

Now, I have gotten on this site, for sharing and learning.  I spend anywhere from 6-10 hours a day in the Word during the work week.

My 17 year old son, (my oldest kid) went to Honduras this spring on his own to minister for Christ out in the hills.

We homeschool, and the kids on 3 hours a day of school, are from 2 to 4 years ahead of their peers.

This is not phenomenal: it is they way of my friends, too.  Birds of a feather....

How are your friends?

How is your life?

Do you even want an example?

Discard this fully if you don't -- it's not my life: it's Christ's for I am His, and He is mine.

"Who, having a light, hides it under a bushel?"


WHO?


NONE!

Thank you for a great reply.....it is a shame that most replies to attacks on worldly events, come in from people defending their RIGHT to participate

What I gather from your reply,   Is that we agree....
In our lives, we do what we love the most.
If you love God the most...Each waking hour should be in service to him.
Instead, most of the time it is 1-2 hours on sunday.

To compare:  I enjoy working with wood...And sometimes,when I am working on a project...I get lost..skipping lunch, dinner and sometimes staying up all night......It is a Passion!!

That passion is not Evident in the world..

Becoming a Pharisee ... that weakness is so subtle and yet so profound. It can trip up anyone from a new convert to world-renowned preacher. It's a nasty Catch-22 for those who strive to become the best Christian they know of, better and more righteous Christians than anyone at church (if only at a near-unconscious level).

I don't think it's humanly possible to avoid each of the 7 deadly sins with equal attention paid to each of them and all possible implications, permutations, etc.

I like to think that God is an understanding God. I like to think that He doesn't expect perfection from us ...

Quote from: Triforce777 on Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 07:04:34
Becoming a Pharisee ... that weakness is so subtle and yet so profound. It can trip up anyone from a new convert to world-renowned preacher. It's a nasty Catch-22 for those who strive to become the best Christian they know of, better and more righteous Christians than anyone at church (if only at a near-unconscious level).

I don't think it's humanly possible to avoid each of the 7 deadly sins with equal attention paid to each of them and all possible implications, permutations, etc.

I like to think that God is an understanding God. I like to think that He doesn't expect perfection from us ...

You are right - and THANK GOD He doesn't expect perfection from us.  But, I believe that He DOES expect us to surround ourselves with good things that glorify Him, rather than the things that are perverted and ungodly.  Why?  Because He knows best what is best for us!

Philippians 4:8-9 sums it up very nicely.  "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.  Those things, which ye have both learned, and received,and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you."

An old Sunday school teacher taught me years ago - "Garbage in = Garbage out!"   If we constantly feed ourselves with ungodly things, the result is ungodly things coming out of us.  And our witness to others can be so damaged.

Remember, God's Word is our way of escape from all temptation.

Many blessings to all.

What a hollow charge.

There will come a day, when divorce is finally pointed to, as the root cause of the destruction of the Christian witness that it is.

Quote from: Triforce777 on Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 07:04:34
Becoming a Pharisee ... that weakness is so subtle and yet so profound. It can trip up anyone from a new convert to world-renowned preacher. It's a nasty Catch-22 for those who strive to become the best Christian they know of, better and more righteous Christians than anyone at church (if only at a near-unconscious level).

I don't think it's humanly possible to avoid each of the 7 deadly sins with equal attention paid to each of them and all possible implications, permutations, etc.

I like to think that God is an understanding God. I like to think that He doesn't expect perfection from us ...

Your right...it is hard to avoid sin...As it is temping us constantly...But we can lessen the imput of sin,  by avoiding events that are FULL of sin (as designed)

Quote from: BAH-BLAH on Tue Sep 08, 2009 - 08:47:13
What a hollow charge.

There will come a day, when divorce is finally pointed to, as the root cause of the destruction of the Christian witness that it is.

Is there some kind of special meaning to your post?  Or is it in answer to .... what?

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

We have have 5 TV's and I am one of the toughest Christian women you are ever going to meet.  My TV does not rule me.  It's a convenience I have that enhances my leisure time.  And, helps too when I want to watch Christian programming at the click of a remote...  I enjoy the Christian music stations when I am doing much of nothing...

No one is going to guilt me into thinking that I watch trash or I am sinning to have a TV or 5.  I control the remote.  If you are not strong enough to control what you watch.... use your "Parental" lock. 

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 02:31:10

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

We have have 5 TV's and I am one of the toughest Christian women you are ever going to meet.  My TV does not rule me.  It's a convenience I have that enhances my leisure time.  And, helps too when I want to watch Christian programming at the click of a remote...  I enjoy the Christian music stations when I am doing much of nothing...

No one is going to guilt me into thinking that I watch trash or I am sinning to have a TV or 5.  I control the remote.  If you are not strong enough to control what you watch.... use your "Parental" lock. 

If you feel guilt...it is because your guilty

^Aw, lighten up, Corbley.

I know what may be ailing about simply wanting to feel like we're hardcore and not of the world 'n stuff, but look at it this way: Is the TV going to kill you? Can it? Nah.

Something I posted before I didn't mean to come across the wrong way: I think what modern culture would call a normal amount of stimulation is overly high (I mean trying on people).

But what I'm saying is, if I see a stupid commercial that I don't like it isn't my loss--the way I filter my input is strictly in the spirit, and I have things that I think might be useful, including the ol' tube, my computer. I hardly watch TV though because I've always hated most of it (enjoyed Star Trek, though, and Fox News maybe). I like a lot of movies and games.

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 02:31:10

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

We have have 5 TV's and I am one of the toughest Christian women you are ever going to meet.  My TV does not rule me.  It's a convenience I have that enhances my leisure time.  And, helps too when I want to watch Christian programming at the click of a remote...  I enjoy the Christian music stations when I am doing much of nothing...

No one is going to guilt me into thinking that I watch trash or I am sinning to have a TV or 5.  I control the remote.  If you are not strong enough to control what you watch.... use your "Parental" lock.  

You are so right!  I know of a church group who decided it was wrong to have a TV.  So, they all gathered in the church parking lot to smash their TV sets.  My sister-in-law and her husband were one of that group.  When she called to tell me about this, I couldn't believe it!  What were they thinking?  She said that they had decided to smash the TV's because there was programming that wasn't godly.  Well, I told her that they should get busy and burn the library - after all, there are books there that really aren't fit to read.  And while they're at it, they should destroy all their radios - after all, there are radio stations that play ungodly music.  And what about magazines?  And I'm sure there are stores at the mall that sell items that are ungodly.  And what about their computers?  After all, there are many ungodly web sites on the internet.  I think she was really shocked to hear my opinion, but she understood the point I was making.

It's not the TV, radio, library, internet, etc. that's bad.  It's the way we choose to use them that make them bad.  Bad choices can be made when we are using any media or reading material.  We simply need to make good choices.

Many blessings to all.

Quote from: graceforme on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 06:32:16

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 02:31:10

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

We have have 5 TV's and I am one of the toughest Christian women you are ever going to meet.  My TV does not rule me.  It's a convenience I have that enhances my leisure time.  And, helps too when I want to watch Christian programming at the click of a remote...  I enjoy the Christian music stations when I am doing much of nothing...

No one is going to guilt me into thinking that I watch trash or I am sinning to have a TV or 5.  I control the remote.  If you are not strong enough to control what you watch.... use your "Parental" lock. 

You are so right!  I know of a church group who decided it was wrong to have a TV.  So, they all gathered in the church parking lot to smash their TV sets.  My sister-in-law and her husband were one of that group.  When she called to tell me about this, I couldn't believe it!  What were they thinking?  She said that they had decided to smash the TV's because there was programming that wasn't godly.  Well, I told her that they should get busy and burn the library - after all, there are books there that really aren't fit to read.  And while they're at it, they should destroy all their radios - after all, there are radio stations that play ungodly music.  And what about magazines?  And I'm sure there are stores at the mall that sell items that are ungodly.  And what about their computers?  After all, there are many ungodly web sites on the internet.  I think she was really shocked to hear my opinion, but she understood the point I was making.

It's not the TV, radio, library, internet, etc. that's bad.  It's the way we choose to use them that make them bad.  Bad choices can be made when we are using any media or reading material.  We simply need to make good choices.

Many blessings to all.

You are correct...It is not the TV....It is what comes through the TV, that has crept into your life.
It does not bring glory to God.
Doing everything to the Glory of God (1 Corinthians 10:31)

The bible tells us, not to conform to the world...And if you do the same things the world is doing...You are conforming
Not being conformed to this world (Romans 12:2)

By watching many shows, you invite temptation to sin.
James 1:14  but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.

Why do you all argue what is the truth?  Media is an avenue to sin...It is undeniable (as your Pastor)

You must be defending your right to partake

Quote from: Corbley on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 06:24:42

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 02:31:10

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
The more I study in the word...The more obvious it is, that (as a whole) Christians are weak in voice.
The media has turned into a lust filled environment...Hardly anything on TV glorifies God...Yet most Christian households have two or more TV's....
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.
And women are sooooo competitive between each other.  IT IS SICKENING!

The government is pushing for Gay marriage and only a few voices are heard from the Body of Christ .....Most Christians simply say "If they want to get married, it doesnt effect me..So WHATEVER"

Many replies will be self rightious ones, that tell how good of a Christian you are.  Which I do not doubt......But as a WHOLE, you must admit that the Christian voice is most definately not what it COULD be or should be.

Christians need to be united, now, like no other time in history!  And we can not even agree on what is wrong in the world.    Mostly, because each  still loves a part of the world and it is hard to put God above the "vises" in your life.

We have have 5 TV's and I am one of the toughest Christian women you are ever going to meet.  My TV does not rule me.  It's a convenience I have that enhances my leisure time.  And, helps too when I want to watch Christian programming at the click of a remote...  I enjoy the Christian music stations when I am doing much of nothing...

No one is going to guilt me into thinking that I watch trash or I am sinning to have a TV or 5.  I control the remote.  If you are not strong enough to control what you watch.... use your "Parental" lock. 

If you feel guilt...it is because your guilty

I don't feel guilt, and I am not going to... that WAS my point... but I guess you missed that in your single focus of only thinking about what you think. 

I have no guilt about my TV's....  I just bought one of them a week ago!

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

So, you agree with me

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

I don't think it's quite as simple as a willful choice to let media be your information source though. I think to some extent attitudes are shaped without us even realizing it, which is why it's so hard to get people to see the damage that such anti-male attitudes can cause. Because no one really noticed them developing and because they have become the default  normal thinking.

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

That is wrong Brother....My experience comes from playing in sports and visiable see how "Idols" are created.
Idols  that is huge in Pro sports...How many children grow up...admiring sports figures more than adoration  for God?
even children in Christian homes...Because daddy spends 8-10 hours on sundays screaming for his teams.

That is what we teach our kids.....You say with your mouth, God is great and above all things....Yet on the day, we are supposed to keep Holy......You sit your butt down all day and show your true heart

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:36:23

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

I don't think it's quite as simple as a willful choice to let media be your information source though. I think to some extent attitudes are shaped without us even realizing it, which is why it's so hard to get people to see the damage that such anti-male attitudes can cause. Because no one really noticed them developing and because they have become the default  normal thinking.

I agree....The "norms" for Christians is to get together on thanksgiving with family.....The ladies cook dinner and the men watch football.   And God does get a 2-5 minute prayer when it is time to eat.....But that is where most end the thanksgiving part of the day.

Too many generalizations going on here.  Why must it be a personal assault? 

Not ALL Christians watch hours and hours of sports on TV.  Nor do ALL Christians spend Thanksgiving Day watching football.  And ALL Christians do not watch TV shows that aren't appropriate.  Yes, there are SOME who do these things, but we can't generalize ALL Christians by the behavior of the ones we know.

God Bless. 

Quote from: Corbley on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:37:38

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

That is wrong Brother....My experience comes from playing in sports and visiable see how "Idols" are created.
Idols  that is huge in Pro sports...How many children grow up...admiring sports figures more than adoration  for God?
even children in Christian homes...Because daddy spends 8-10 hours on sundays screaming for his teams.

That is what we teach our kids.....You say with your mouth, God is great and above all things....Yet on the day, we are supposed to keep Holy......You sit your butt down all day and show your true heart

And right there lies the problem with what you are preaching Corbley...   You address me as some sports nut male who ignores God on Sunday...

I clearly said when I posted in this thread the FIRST time... I am a WOMAN.   You do not take the time to know who you are accusing before you jump off in to the deep.  Grow up...  Grow up in the LORD.  

Just because God is convicting you of something in your life... does not mean it was a prophecy for the Church or that you need to speak it to others.  

You negate your message when you call a sister ... "Brother"....   Try to pay more attention to what is actually going on around you.  Thanks.

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 14:41:52

Quote from: Corbley on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:37:38

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

That is wrong Brother....My experience comes from playing in sports and visiable see how "Idols" are created.
Idols  that is huge in Pro sports...How many children grow up...admiring sports figures more than adoration  for God?
even children in Christian homes...Because daddy spends 8-10 hours on sundays screaming for his teams.

That is what we teach our kids.....You say with your mouth, God is great and above all things....Yet on the day, we are supposed to keep Holy......You sit your butt down all day and show your true heart

And right there lies the problem with what you are preaching Corbley...   You address me as some sports nut male who ignores God on Sunday...

I clearly said when I posted in this thread the FIRST time... I am a WOMAN.   You do not take the time to know who you are accusing before you jump off in to the deep.  Grow up...  Grow up in the LORD. 

Just because God is convicting you of something in your life... does not mean it was a prophecy for the Church or that you need to speak it to others. 

You negate your message when you call a sister ... "Brother"....   Try to pay more attention to what is actually going on around you.  Thanks.

I am speaking in general  (women have other vises),     It was a mistake.  I am sorry for thinking you were a man......
Other than that ,  your reply contributed nothing biblical.....I continue to speak against worldly things  and most replies come in defending them    LOL

Quote from: Corbley on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:37:38

Quote from: kensington on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 12:00:15

Quote from: chaz345 on Wed Sep 09, 2009 - 11:46:57

Quote from: Corbley on Mon Sep 07, 2009 - 18:51:32
Most men are consumed with Pro Sports - It fills most all of their time....Of course a good Christian man sqeazes in an hour or two on sunday for God....As long as he dont miss opening kickoff.

Stereotype much?

Of course the real irony is that the stereotype of the beer swilling, sports obsessed, belching, uninvolved man that you are perpetuating here comes largely from the entertainment media that you so loudly decry.

exactly... when you don't take the time to get to know Christians and you let the media be your information source on who they are... as Corbley has.... what other evidence do you have.

That is wrong Brother....My experience comes from playing in sports and visiable see how "Idols" are created.
Idols  that is huge in Pro sports...How many children grow up...admiring sports figures more than adoration  for God?
even children in Christian homes...Because daddy spends 8-10 hours on sundays screaming for his teams.

That is what we teach our kids.....You say with your mouth, God is great and above all things....Yet on the day, we are supposed to keep Holy......You sit your butt down all day and show your true heart

I'm not saying that there isn't a problem with how many people view their "idols". I'm saying that the picture you paint of a "typical" American male is WAY off base.  Do some do that? Of course, every stereotype has it's basis in some form of truth.  But it's isn't all, or most men by a long shot.

Here's an experiment for you. I dare you to make the same generalization about women and see what happens.

Chaz...   I've seen you make that "women" vs "men" reference a few times here.... and actually... that has not been and issue or a problem here as I have seen on other sites, including the one I know you from before.  Where every situation or discussion has to turn into men vs women in the body of Christ. 

I hope you will consider that, and leave what has been tried and failed on other sites there, and let grace centered continue as a "body" of Christ rather than the competition between the sexes that so many other discussions and sites have become. 

It's just not about that here...  Here  is different...  it's nice... and men and women don't argue all the time about who is to blame and who did that and this and such.  As I said... I hope you will think about it. 

I really trust that my brothers and sisters here won't give into that... as they haven't yet.  It's so nice.  They don't compete here against the body, usually. 

Corbley, Corbley, Corbley... 

How ironic that you are using the most modern time-waster... and greatest source of all time for everything sinful from porn to bad-grammar posts... to take to task some few readers for something they don't seem to be doing...

Are you firmly convinced that anything enjoyable is evil?

Go buy some advertising time during the next Superbowl.  There's yer target audience right there.