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According to Of Grandeur: The Law of Emotional Balance, all of your beliefs are based on your emotional balance. You became attracted to specific ideas or beliefs because of the role those beliefs or ideas play in your emotional balance. Your beliefs can be permanently changed when other sources of emotions are permanently changed as well. People can change their beliefs just like they can fall out of love with one person and in love with another person.

The world is filled with billions of followers of different religions and to each person is correct for having those beliefs because those beliefs keep them more emotionally balanced than they would be without those beliefs. You may not believe the empirical evidence provided by scientists because if you were to believe in it you may become permanently emotionally unbalanced based on your other beliefs.

We have specific beliefs to cope with our environments. Some people cope with the sadness caused by their environment by using intoxicating substances, other cope with their environments by following specific beliefs.

Life is all based on one simple law and that is the Law of Emotional Balance. The Law of Emotional Balance claims that every single person will experience as much happiness as they do sadness before they are allowed to die and this mandatory requirement is what has led people to have religious beliefs.

The Law of Emotional Balance is a conservation law. A charge particle can't turn into pure energy until it has become neutral, just like a charged particle, a person can't die until they are emotionally neutral.

Quote from: spreadingthegoodword on Thu Aug 26, 2010 - 02:38:27

Life is all based on one simple law and that is the Law of Emotional Balance. The Law of Emotional Balance claims that every single person will experience as much happiness as they do sadness before they are allowed to die and this mandatory requirement is what has led people to have religious beliefs.

This boat doesn't float in view that a child dying during birth experiences neither happiness or sadness and seems to be delusions indeed.

Quote from: spreadingthegoodword on Thu Aug 26, 2010 - 02:38:27

All of your beliefs are based on your emotional balance.

larry2 - How does the truth of God's word fit into your equation? All religions are not of God and thus screws up the balance regardless of intent. For instance, what do you think of being born of God versus going to the lake of fire? Somewhere, somehow a person ignorant of the fact of God's truth is made aware of it through those sent to them and they make choices; not a culmination of sadness and happiness to satisfy some thought up plan of God man has envisioned.

My thoughts.

I agree with Larry and it is good for me that I can say that. Thank you Jesus maybe someday soon I will be able to say that more often.

This is the result of human reasoning.
Set God's word aside a second,
there are some religions that teach it is right to kill any one not their own religion,do you support that ??
how can emotional ballance be justified when most of the world is unstable and sinful ?
Sin by the way is not just bad deeds it is the exclusion of God's personal influence.
Man was designed to be God dependent, Adam currupted that, and man has sense built on that curruption. Any religious flavor excluding God's personal influence is currupt.
God not only endorced Jesus audibly to His disciples, He reaferms His Only Begotten son's standing by supporting the power of His name , in healing ,answer  to prayer even over great distances, casting out demons, and many other things . Jesus name is the only abused name on the planet, even people that have no idea who Jeus is abuse his name. even christians are guilty of this from time to time. their tongue does not have the influence of the Holy Spirit, what they have is human reasoning. the reason their life style is ok because every one around them is living the same way, ignoring God.

35% of the world does not know who Jesus is. To say these people are doomed to go to hell seems pretty unfair to me considering they never had a chance. More importantly, the Law of Emotional Balance is perfectly congruent with what a benevolent god would create to secure stability in his creation.

Children can experience emotions in utero. All of these questions are answered in the questions and answers section in the free book provided.

Instead of just flat out rejecting what I am saying, see that I am trying to support your beliefs.

Even though we may never be able to perfectly prove the Law of Emotional Balance because quantifying all emotions, a person will experience in their lifetime, is impossible, that does not mean that we can't build an extremely strong case to support emotional balance as a law. Even without a way of quantifying all emotions we can still determine if the Law of Emotional Balance is still a possibility or not. In the book Of Grandeur: The Law of Emotional Balance, falsifiable experiments have been added to build a case in support of emotional balance as a law.  The fact also remains that in order for the Law of Emotional Balance to be true, certain base requirements would have to be met. The universe would need to have uncertainty programmed into it because without uncertainty, we could predict the future and take in only happiness and no sadness and violate the Law of Emotional Balance. We would need to have dreams where people's defenses are dropped so they could be forced to experience specific emotions to prevent the Law of Emotional Balance from being violated. We would need physiological balance in cells "Homeostasis" because cells are also living organisms that comprise other organisms like humans. We would need unusual/unique cultural structures with flexibility "Sins/penance/religion, laws, punishments, government...... The list goes on... The fact remains that all of the base requirements for the Law of Emotional Balance are in place so why not try to test to see if emotional balance is maintained by a law... Conservation laws prevent charged particles from turning back into pure energy until they are neutral. Emotions and electricity may very well be directly tied together so it is not a too much of a stretch, to say that there is a conservation law that governs emotions. There may very well be a reservoir of emotional energy and this reservoir is forced to follow the Law of Emotional Balance and is what humans have come to worship as God.

Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the life,no man can come to the Father but by me." John 14;6,
  Jesus said," for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so eve believeth in Him should not perish but have ever lasting life, For god sent not his son to condemn the world; but that the world threough Him might be saved. He that believeth on Himis not condemed, but he that believeth n ot is condende aready ; because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten son of God."
Jesus said this very clearly openly and with out further explaination John 3;16,17,18,
Like it or not , Jesus / God is exclusive , He is not bound to our opinions nor the volume of men's insistance on their own way.
God would cease to be Holy and righteous if He were to compromise to all the levels of sin men teach for gospel. heaven would be chaos.

Quote from: spreadingthegoodword on Fri Aug 27, 2010 - 00:59:59
Even though we may never be able to perfectly prove the Law of Emotional Balance because quantifying all emotions, a person will experience in their lifetime, is impossible, that does not mean that we can't build an extremely strong case to support emotional balance as a law. Even without a way of quantifying all emotions we can still determine if the Law of Emotional Balance is still a possibility or not. In the book Of Grandeur: The Law of Emotional Balance, falsifiable experiments have been added to build a case in support of emotional balance as a law.  The fact also remains that in order for the Law of Emotional Balance to be true, certain base requirements would have to be met. The universe would need to have uncertainty programmed into it because without uncertainty, we could predict the future and take in only happiness and no sadness and violate the Law of Emotional Balance. We would need to have dreams where people's defenses are dropped so they could be forced to experience specific emotions to prevent the Law of Emotional Balance from being violated. We would need physiological balance in cells "Homeostasis" because cells are also living organisms that comprise other organisms like humans. We would need unusual/unique cultural structures with flexibility "Sins/penance/religion, laws, punishments, government...... The list goes on... The fact remains that all of the base requirements for the Law of Emotional Balance are in place so why not try to test to see if emotional balance is maintained by a law... Conservation laws prevent charged particles from turning back into pure energy until they are neutral. Emotions and electricity may very well be directly tied together so it is not a too much of a stretch, to say that there is a conservation law that governs emotions. There may very well be a reservoir of emotional energy and this reservoir is forced to follow the Law of Emotional Balance and is what humans have come to worship as God.

Are you suggesting that all humans have equal amounts of good and bad emotions during a lifetime?

Every person experiences as much happiness as they do sadness.

Rockstars probably experience a lot of both.
Monks probably experience very little of both.

spreadingthegoodword What about children dying of starvation in third world countries?  When do they get there quota of happiness according to your law?  They are born into extreme poverty and starvation and many die before they get any happiness - all they know, in their short lives, is hunger and sadness.  What about my situation?  I have been in hiding from an abusive ex husband for about 22 years now and I have had to move and abandon friends and family numerous times during that time.  I live in fear that each day may be the day he finds my children and I and if he does we are dead.  Before that I was raped and abused by two others for several years.  And please don't tell me that I had my happiness as a child because since birth I have been a very sick child so I never got to do a lot that other children do.  My life has had more misery and sadness than it has had happiness so where is my missing quota of happiness.  Where is your law in my life?  What about a friend of mine.  She has never known sickness or sadness really.  Her life seems to be charmed and everything goes her way.  She has been like this since I have known her and we met as very young children.  When is my friend going to get her quota of sadness?  Where is the emotinal balance in her life?  

Your law of emotional balance is all hogwash and more new age nonsense designed to show that Jesus is wrong and everyone can walk their own path to Him.  You can deny the truth of what Jesus says but Jesus has something to say to those who deny Him and His words:  Mat 10:33 But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in Heaven.  

Good post Sister Nyoka and amen.

So, how do all the people who yell "Allahu Achbar" and blow themselves to kingdom come figure into this logical system?  Clearly, their religion did not lead them to be more balanced.  Examples can be found in many other religions, including Christianity.  How about the monks who set themselves on fire in southeast Asia?

There is a kernel of truth in there somewhere, though.  I would posit the theory less absolutely:

1) Any time we receive new information, we have to reconcile that information with the rest of our knowledge base. 
2) Oftentimes, people find this reconciliation unnerving.  Many times, they reject that new information because it would cause such a shift in their core beliefs as to make them change their whole system of reasoning.
3) Sometimes, people readily accept new information, even bad information, if it reinforces core beliefs that they already have.

The issue is that light shines on us all from time to time, but men love darkness rather than light.  Darkness is comfortable.  Or, at least, that's what a book I read said.

But, not everyone puts their emotions first.  Some people actually want the truth, more than the security.

Open a window & let the light shine in, my friend!

Jarrod

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Fri Aug 27, 2010 - 19:11:25
So, how do all the people who yell "Allahu Achbar" and blow themselves to kingdom come figure into this logical system?  Clearly, their religion did not lead them to be more balanced.  Examples can be found in many other religions, including Christianity.  How about the monks who set themselves on fire in southeast Asia?

There is a kernel of truth in there somewhere, though.  I would posit the theory less absolutely:

1) Any time we receive new information, we have to reconcile that information with the rest of our knowledge base. 
2) Oftentimes, people find this reconciliation unnerving.  Many times, they reject that new information because it would cause such a shift in their core beliefs as to make them change their whole system of reasoning.
3) Sometimes, people readily accept new information, even bad information, if it reinforces core beliefs that they already have.

The issue is that light shines on us all from time to time, but men love darkness rather than light.  Darkness is comfortable.  Or, at least, that's what a book I read said.

But, not everyone puts their emotions first.  Some people actually want the truth, more than the security.

Open a window & let the light shine in, my friend!

Jarrod

Excellent insight!!

Quote from: spreadingthegoodword on Thu Aug 26, 2010 - 11:32:32
...seems pretty unfair to me...

Setting aside for a second the particular issue of the destiny of those who are without knowledge of Christ...this statement is a fallacy in and of itself, as your feelings of what is "fair" are neither the topic at hand, nor the standard of God's justice and mercy.

Now back to their destiny...whether they are eternally damned or eternally saved, it will have been because of God's justice and mercy and His will, and their faith/disbelief/lives/hearts, not ours. Whatever God judges is right (at least that is the orthodox presupposition with which Christians come to the table, perhaps that is where some stumble?), He is the determiner of what is right (and "fair"), and His decision, then, is inherently just ("fair").  That we might look at His potential decision and declare it "fair" or "unfair" (iow, sit it judgment of Him and it), says far more about us and our lack of perspective than it does of God and fairness.



(edited for typo)

Quote from: ela on Sat Aug 28, 2010 - 06:10:30

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Fri Aug 27, 2010 - 19:11:25
So, how do all the people who yell "Allahu Achbar" and blow themselves to kingdom come figure into this logical system?  Clearly, their religion did not lead them to be more balanced.  Examples can be found in many other religions, including Christianity.  How about the monks who set themselves on fire in southeast Asia?

There is a kernel of truth in there somewhere, though.  I would posit the theory less absolutely:

1) Any time we receive new information, we have to reconcile that information with the rest of our knowledge base. 
2) Oftentimes, people find this reconciliation unnerving.  Many times, they reject that new information because it would cause such a shift in their core beliefs as to make them change their whole system of reasoning.
3) Sometimes, people readily accept new information, even bad information, if it reinforces core beliefs that they already have.

The issue is that light shines on us all from time to time, but men love darkness rather than light.  Darkness is comfortable.  Or, at least, that's what a book I read said.

But, not everyone puts their emotions first.  Some people actually want the truth, more than the security.

Open a window & let the light shine in, my friend!

Jarrod

Excellent insight!!

Yes, it is.  WS, it's funny, because the picture of the terrorist came to my mind immediately as well. 

Quote from: spreadingthegoodword on Thu Aug 26, 2010 - 11:32:32

35% of the world does not know who Jesus is. To say these people are doomed to go to hell seems pretty unfair to me considering they never had a chance.

Now how could God judge any that He did not give the same chance as me? Shall not God do that which is right? We're told that God is not a respecter of persons and He is not willing that any be lost. You make the statement that everyone does not hear of him, but please consider the short true story of Dummy Walker at the following Link.

DUMMY WALKER   http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/general-discussion/dummy-walker/
 
Scientific proof of God will save no one. Romans 1:19-20 tells us, "That which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20  For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."