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When ones considers the enormity of the mistake of the present division of Old and New Covenant, and the ramifications, it is almost inconceivable that such a glaring and conspicuous mistake could exist for two thousand years without someone attempting to correct it.
According to the apostle Paul:

"...when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons (Gal. 4:4 5)."

The birth of Jesus under the law was announced some thirty-three years before the cross to redeem those who were "under the law,

Quote from: passingthrough on Thu May 05, 2011 - 10:17:55
   
When ones considers the enormity of the mistake of the present division of Old and New Covenant, and the ramifications, it is almost inconceivable that such a glaring and conspicuous mistake could exist for two thousand years without someone attempting to correct it.
According to the apostle Paul:

"...when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons (Gal. 4:4 5)."

The birth of Jesus under the law was announced some thirty-three years before the cross to redeem those who were "under the law,

 
Hi , and Heb 9:15 says when the Law of Moses ended ,  at the cross .

Jesus death paid for  ALL  the sins committed by Israel , under the First Testament or what is also called the Old Covenant .

Israel was set aside at Acts 28:28 .

The Grace of God or what is the Dispensation of the Grace of God begins in Acts 9:6 and explained in Eph 3:1-10  .   dan p

Quote from: dan p on Thu May 05, 2011 - 16:04:23
 
Hi , and Heb 9:15 says when the Law of Moses ended ,  at the cross .

Jesus death paid for  ALL  the sins committed by Israel , under the First Testament or what is also called the Old Covenant .

Israel was set aside at Acts 28:28 .

The Grace of God or what is the Dispensation of the Grace of God begins in Acts 9:6 and explained in Eph 3:1-10  .   dan p

Does that mean those in Korah's rebellion were saved? 9 (JUDE 11) Or those described in Jude 5?  Because those described in Jude are said to have the blackest of darkness reserved for them,  Please explain, thanks.

Mood asks:

"Are you saying they were all saved people who came under the Mosaic system?? Maybe I have read you wrong."

I am sorry if I did not make it clear enough. I was only speaking of the saved ones under the Covenant of the Ten Commandments (Ex. 19:5-6; 24:7-8) who were kept in Hades until sins were paid for as in Heb. 9:15.

And dan p says:

"Hi , and Heb 9:15 says when the Law of Moses ended , at the cross .

Bold-red emphasis mine ~

Quote from: passingthrough on Thu May 05, 2011 - 10:17:55
From the above, it should be sufficiently clear that insofar as sins were concerned the Mosaic covenant of commandments ended at the cross. It was only hours before the Lord's death before the New Covenant was ever mentioned during His ministry. When He passed the cup the Lord said to His disciples:

"Drink from it, all of you. For this is My blood of the New Covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins (Matt. 26:27 28)."

The same is repeated in Mk. 14:24; Lk. 22:20 and in both cases He speaks of that which is still future, i.e., His death.
In his letter to the Hebrews, Paul said:

"...how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this reason He is the Mediator of the New Covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives (Heb. 9:14 17)."

Surely it is evident from all the above, without exception; all those who were living during and under the first covenant of the law was redeemed by His death. It included John the Baptist and the Lord's disciples during His ministry, which until His death were yet under the Old Covenant of which time the Memoirs recorded. Not only were the Jews sins covered, but all sins forward from Adam.

In His grace

Passingthrough

The English translations are biased beginning all the way back to the KJV starting 400 years ago. They altered the order of the words in the Hebrews 9:15 passage, just like in so many other places, under the supposed reasoning that the English language is so different, difficult, and complicated, that everything must be rearanged to translate a smooth delivery into the English from the Greek, (this is in general with the entire translation). This really is nothing more than "hoodwinking the peasants" who believe what they are told and who at that time were just happy and supremely blessed to even have the Word, (which I whole heartedly agree with). However, after all this time one might think that the modern shepherds would have found out the truth and procalimed it with all of the tools, records, and materials which we now have at our disposal. Yet sadly there are scant few who are truly willing to admit it. Perhaps it is a good thing that the truth never seems to sell out bookstore shelves and seldom makes one rich in that kind of way. YHWH is wonderful! The true riches are stored up in heaven...

What it says is THE COVENANT OF A NEW MEDIATOR:

Hebrews 9:15 LIT (Literal Bible w/vertical Strongs Ref.#s)
15.
  |2532| And
  |1223| because
  |5124| of this
  |1242| covenant,
  |2537| of a new
  |3316| Mediator
  |2076| he is,
  |3704| so as
  |2288| death
  |1096| having occurred
  |1519| for
  |0629| redemption
  |3588| of the
  |1909| under
  |3588| the
  |4413| first
  |1242| covenant
  |3847| transgressions,
  |3588| the
  |1860| promise
  |2983| may receive
  |3588| those
  |2563| being called
  |3588| of the
  |0166| eternal
  |2817| inheritance.

Hebrews 9:15 TUA (Greek Transliterated Unaccented)
15.  Kai dia touto diathekes kaines mesites estin, hopos thanatou genomenou eis apolutrosin ton epi teprote diatheke parabaseon ten epangelian labosin hoikeklemenoi tes aioniou kleronomias.

"Kai dia touto diathekes kaines Mesites estin"
"And because of this a covenant of a new Mediator it is"

This is in perfect harmony with the thrust of the book of Hebrews which speaks of the shadows of typology and THE NEW MEDIATOR OF THE COVENANT, YESHUA, our eternal High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek.

Also concerning the "new covenant" in the Gospels spoken of at the Last Supper: the translators showed their bias in those occasions also because the word "kainos" for "NEW" is found only in the Luke 22 Last Supper passage. However, what the translators failed to realize was that the covenant announced in Luke 22 speaks the word "kainos"-new in the context which concerns a different covenant. That "new covenant" is rather the "Covenant of the Cup" (those who will be "kings" of the royal holy seed of David). "He hath made us kings and priests"...

Kainos-new was added into the KJV, (technically the Textus Receptus which the KJV is translated from) which means that this misrepresentation began to be heavily promulgated into English speaking congregations 400 years ago and was therefore carried also into Protestantism.

Matthew 26:28 KJV
28.  For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Matthew 26:28 ASV (American Standard)
28.  for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many unto remission of sins.

Matthew 26:28 RSV (Revised Standard)
28.  for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

There is no GSN#2537 "kainos" - "new" to be found in the GNT Morph Texts:

Matthew 26:28 TUA
28.  touto gar estin to haimamou tes diathekes to peri pollon ekchunnomenon eisafesin hamartion.

"haimamou tes diatheses"  =  "blood of the covenant"

The same thing happens in the Gospel of Mark:

Mark 14:24 KJV
24.  And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.

Mark 14:24 ASV
24.  And he said unto them, This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

Mark 14:24 RSV
24.  And he said to them, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many.

The covenant ("for the many" ~ straight out of Daniel 9:27) is not a "New Covenant" so much as a Renewed Covenant. It is refreshed like wineskins soaked in oil, (Spirit). It is a renewed covenant which is renewed by and in the Blood of Christ Yeshua our New Mediator of the Covenant; eternal High Priest according to the order of Melchizedek having neither beginning of days nor end of life.

Luke 22:17-20 KJV
17.  And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves:
18.  For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come.
19.  And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
20.  Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

The difference in Luke 22 is clear if anyone is willing to see it:
YESHUA TOOK LIKEWISE THE CUP (AGAIN) AFTER SUPPER, SAYING, THIS CUP IS A NEW COVENANT IN MY BLOOD WHICH IS SHED FOR YOU. Then he goes on to explain to them that he has APPOINTED THEM A KINGDOM (KINGS).

Luke 22:28-30
28.  Ye are they which have continued with me in my temptations.
29.  And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;
30.  That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

The bulk of the modern church age teachings concerning the "new covenant" are based upon biased information and words added into the text which were not there originally thanks to the Textus Receptus, KJV, and pastors and preachers who love to think themselves free of any law whatsoever. Dream on dreamers...  

The Covenant of the Cup  ~

Matthew 20:22-23
22.  But the Yeshua answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.
23.  And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Luke 12:49-50
49.  I am come to send fire on the earth; and would that it were already kindled!
50.  But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how I am constrained until it be accomplished!

Psalms 23:4-5
4.  Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5.  Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Psalms 116:12-15
12.  What shall I render unto YHWH for all his benefits toward me?
13.  I will take the Cup of Yeshua, and call upon the name of YHWH.
14.  I will pay my vows unto YHWH now in the presence of all his people.
15.  Precious in the sight of YHWH is the death of his saints.

   

Psalms 116:13
13.  I will take the cup of salvation, (HSN#3444 yshuw`ah) and in haShem YHWH will I call.

Original Strong's Ref. #3444
Romanized  yshuw`ah
Pronounced yesh-oo'-aw
feminine passive participle of HSN3467; something saved, i.e. (abstractly) deliverance; hence, aid, victory, prosperity:
KJV--deliverance, health, help(-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare.

Brown–Driver–Briggs Hebrew Lexicon
http://www.apostolic-churches.net/bible/strongs/psalms_116.shtml
03444 // hewvy // y@shuw`ah // yesh-oo'-aw //
passive participle of 03467 ; TWOT - 929b; n f
AV - salvation 65, help 4, deliverance 3, health 3, save 1, saving 1,
welfare 1; 78
1) salvation, deliverance
1a) welfare, prosperity
1b) deliverance
1c) salvation (by God)
1d) victory