Obama Still Refuses to Produce Birth Certificate

[lightshineon]

I hope this country can come up with a party to replace the Republicans soon, because this country needs at least two viable parties, and the Republicans are showing strong signs of self-destructing. 

I agree, but first clean the rot, and filth of the democrats. The stench is bad, so bad it burns my nostrils Marc. UMM, what does this have to do with Obama born in Kenya?

[memmy]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg

[marc]

I haven't heard a single person mention this so-called controversy.

btw, I know many here accept factcheck when it suits their purpose, but I doubt the same people will now.  Here's what they say.

[marc]

I hope this country can come up with a party to replace the Republicans soon, because this country needs at least two viable parties, and the Republicans are showing strong signs of self-destructing. 

I agree, but first clean the rot, and filth of the democrats. The stench is bad, so bad it burns my nostrils Marc. UMM, what does this have to do with Obama born in Kenya?

This is fringe propaganda, likely racist in origin (I know many here think only blacks are racist, but that ain't so), accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream. Meanwhile, the country is sinking and the people are looking for solutions to real problems.

[Bon Voyage]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President. 

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

[lightshineon]

I hope this country can come up with a party to replace the Republicans soon, because this country needs at least two viable parties, and the Republicans are showing strong signs of self-destructing. 

I agree, but first clean the rot, and filth of the democrats. The stench is bad, so bad it burns my nostrils Marc. UMM, what does this have to do with Obama born in Kenya?

This is fringe propaganda, likely racist in origin (I know many here think only blacks are racist, but that ain't so), accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream. Meanwhile, the country is sinking and the people are looking for solutions to real problems.

My goodness Marc, you are a Moderator, and I am not a racist. Learn your station in life! What about being salt and light Marc?

[Bon Voyage]

I hope this country can come up with a party to replace the Republicans soon, because this country needs at least two viable parties, and the Republicans are showing strong signs of self-destructing. 

I agree, but first clean the rot, and filth of the democrats. The stench is bad, so bad it burns my nostrils Marc. UMM, what does this have to do with Obama born in Kenya?

This is fringe propaganda, likely racist in origin (I know many here think only blacks are racist, but that ain't so), accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream. Meanwhile, the country is sinking and the people are looking for solutions to real problems.

My goodness Marc, you are a Moderator, and I am not a racist. Learn your station in life! What about being salt and light Marc?

Marc didn't call you a racist, or even imply it.  You may owe him an apology.  He said the origin of the "Obama born in Kenya" was likely racist in origin.  What may apply to you is "accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream."

[marc]

The other reason that this hurts the Republican is that a perception still exists among many that the 2000 election was stolen (fwiw, I don't think it was.) Now Republicans are being seen as trying to invalidate another popular election.

They have reached the point where, as Lynn Anderson once said in another context, insiders matter more than outsiders. This is a prescription for irrelevance.

[lightshineon]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President. 

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

[marc]

I even said pointedly that those spreading this now weren't racist.  

[lightshineon]

I hope this country can come up with a party to replace the Republicans soon, because this country needs at least two viable parties, and the Republicans are showing strong signs of self-destructing. 

Right Gary.


I agree, but first clean the rot, and filth of the democrats. The stench is bad, so bad it burns my nostrils Marc. UMM, what does this have to do with Obama born in Kenya?

This is fringe propaganda, likely racist in origin (I know many here think only blacks are racist, but that ain't so), accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream. Meanwhile, the country is sinking and the people are looking for solutions to real problems.

My goodness Marc, you are a Moderator, and I am not a racist. Learn your station in life! What about being salt and light Marc?

Marc didn't call you a racist, or even imply it.  You may owe him an apology.  He said the origin of the "Obama born in Kenya" was likely racist in origin.  What may apply to you is "accepted and propigated by the non-racist mainstream."

[marc]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President.  

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

I produced it in a link a few posts back. A link to a site that has been sited in the past by some of those here who are claiming the b.c. was false, btw.

[Bon Voyage]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obama-kenya-bc.jpg

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President.  

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

I don't need to prove it.  Obama is the President.  It does not matter whether you like it or not.  I am not a fan of Obama, but he's the President of the United States.  Getting stuck into the much of conspiracy theories will not change reality.

[lightshineon]

I even said pointedly that those spreading this now weren't racist.  

Well point of fact, I could care less Marc, Gary what color you or Obama are. What matters is we are Christians above all.

[lightshineon]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obaar

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President.  

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

I don't need to prove it.  Obama is the President.  It does not matter whether you like it or not.  I am not a fan of Obama, but he's the President of the United States.  Getting stuck into the much of conspiracy theories will not change reality.

Well any of you ever had a kindergartners? I have, and you have to produce a copy of the Birth Certificate. This cannot be done by the president? Why? It is almost foolish to act like nothing is amiss. Another thing if you understood the United States Military, you would understand an Officer, could, and would not refuse to go to Afghanistan, without severe consequences OK? He would not simply get his way, and be reassigned. So what is you wisdom concerning this?:

[Jaime]

I don't know why people that voted for Obama are disappointed in him.......he is doing exactly what he told the electorate he would do.

[lightshineon]

I don't know why people that voted for Obama are disappointed in him.......he is doing exactly what he told the electorate he would do.

Some of us had enough sense not to vote for him. What has he done that has not been damaging to America?

[phoebe]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obaar

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President. 

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

I don't need to prove it.  Obama is the President.  It does not matter whether you like it or not.  I am not a fan of Obama, but he's the President of the United States.  Getting stuck into the much of conspiracy theories will not change reality.

Well any of you ever had a kindergartners? I have, and you have to produce a copy of the Birth Certificate. This cannot be done by the president? Why? It is almost foolish to act like nothing is amiss. Another thing if you understood the United States Military, you would understand an Officer, could, and would not refuse to go to Afghanistan, without severe consequences OK? He would not simply get his way, and be reassigned. So what is you wisdom concerning this?:

Same for a Social Security card, Driver's License, Passport.

He claimed, campaigned, and promised transparency to the American people, and I believe we should hold his feet to the fire and make him keep his word.  It may be the only one he keeps.

"moving faster" is a gross understatement. Faster than the speed of light is more accurate.  Why?? Because he knows if he slows down we will see what he's really doing and will put a stop to it.

Socialism is his goal.  Seems to me that if one believes in socialism that one should move to countries where socialism rules, and stop trying to change this country of liberty and justice for all.  This is a country founded on liberty.  Socialism is not liberty, is not justice for all.


"Give me liberty or give me death."

The absence of liberty is death.

[Jaime]

I don't know why people that voted for Obama are disappointed in him.......he is doing exactly what he told the electorate he would do.

Some of us had enough sense not to vote for him. What has he done that has not been damaging to America?

I agree! But the majority of Americans either didn't listen to him or they didn't believe him. They assumed change meant for the better!

[lightshineon]

Not sure where you're getting your info Marc. The party I am associated with is gaining strength, bigger every day.

This is weird, not a clue if it is real or not, but weird none the less.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/obaar

Obama was born in Hawaii.  He's the President. 

I believe the country is moving in the wrong direction, a direction that started prior to Obama (Bush had a hand in this direction), Obama is only moving faster than McCain would have.

prove it Gary. Obama will not, so if you have proof of an actual copy of a birth certificate please produce it.

I don't need to prove it.  Obama is the President.  It does not matter whether you like it or not.  I am not a fan of Obama, but he's the President of the United States.  Getting stuck into the much of conspiracy theories will not change reality.

Well any of you ever had a kindergartners? I have, and you have to produce a copy of the Birth Certificate. This cannot be done by the president? Why? It is almost foolish to act like nothing is amiss. Another thing if you understood the United States Military, you would understand an Officer, could, and would not refuse to go to Afghanistan, without severe consequences OK? He would not simply get his way, and be reassigned. So what is you wisdom concerning this?:

Same for a Social Security card, Driver's License, Passport.

He claimed, campaigned, and promised transparency to the American people, and I believe we should hold his feet to the fire and make him keep his word.  It may be the only one he keeps.

"moving faster" is a gross understatement. Faster than the speed of light is more accurate.  Why?? Because he knows if he slows down we will see what he's really doing and will put a stop to it.

Socialism is his goal.  Seems to me that if one believes in socialism that one should move to countries where socialism rules, and stop trying to change this country of liberty and justice for all.  This is a country founded on liberty.  Socialism is not liberty, is not justice for all.


"Give me liberty or give me death."

The absence of liberty is death.

I agree Phoebe if you want to be a socialist take a train, plane, automobile, train, whatever just git.  Though before you get do not forget to take your Birth Certificate to court house for passport, because you ain't not Obama, and you will have to prove who you be.

[memmy]

I don't believe this was racist in nature by wanting to see that he is American born, since he was running for the office of President, like all are required to do for that office. It's just one more thing that should have been easily proven, but some reason is such a big deal for the Obama camp. If it weren't such a big deal, why would they not have produced a BC at the get go?

[jonmower]

Here's an excerpt from another bastion of the "mainstream liberal media" including a credible explanation for why Obama still hasn't produced his original birth certificate:

Whether out of ignorance or dishonesty, they misrepresent the law at every turn. Back in November, as we noted, the birthers were claiming that the Supreme Court had ordered Obama to "prove

[jonmower]

Taranto also addresses the "Why has Obama spent X dollars defending himself against lawsuits when he could just produce the original birth certificate and make the whole thing go away?

[phoebe]

There is in existence a "Certified Copy if Registration of Birth" from Kenya, if anyone is interested, and a suit has been filed based on this document:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/

Don't dally.  "Hackers" have been tinkering with her sites from the git-go. (I have saved them to my own computer.)

Looks more legit than anything I have seen so far.

[Contrary to other reports, Stanley Ann was 16 when Barack was born, not 18 or 19.]

[In addition, I believe this copy was made in February 1964 after the Obama's filed for divorce in January 1964.]

[larry2]

My friend wants to know are these documents required when you become an officer in the US govornment (senator, congressemen, etc )

Only the President is required to be born as a citizen I think. I do not know if that requirement extends to the vice president, though I don't think he could serve as president if something happened to the president unless that requirement was met.

I know California's governor was not born in America.

In Jesus' name - larry2

[phoebe]

My friend wants to know are these documents required when you become an officer in the US govornment (senator, congressemen, etc )

Only the President is required to be born as a citizen I think. I do not know if that requirement extends to the vice president, though I don't think he could serve as president if something happened to the president unless that requirement was met.

I know California's governor was not born in America.

In Jesus' name - larry2

Which is why he cannot run for president but can be governor.

[phoebe]

Repeating this so it doesn't get lost on a previous page:

There is in existence a "Certified Copy if Registration of Birth" from Kenya, if anyone is interested, and a suit has been filed based on this document:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/

Don't dally.  "Hackers" have been tinkering with her sites from the git-go. (I have saved them to my own computer.)

Looks more legit than anything I have seen so far.

[Contrary to other reports, Stanley Ann was 16 when Barack was born, not 18 or 19.]

[In addition, I believe this copy was made in February 1964 after the Obama's filed for divorce in January 1964.]

[Mac]

There is in existence a "Certified Copy if Registration of Birth" from Kenya, if anyone is interested, and a suit has been filed based on this document:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/

Don't dally.  "Hackers" have been tinkering with her sites from the git-go. (I have saved them to my own computer.)

Looks more legit than anything I have seen so far.

[Contrary to other reports, Stanley Ann was 16 when Barack was born, not 18 or 19.]

[In addition, I believe this copy was made in February 1964 after the Obama's filed for divorce in January 1964.]

My goodness. Can you imagine if this turns out to be real?

[Johnb]

As bad as I hate it Obama is president.  This issue needs to die.  It is only making us conservatives look stupid.

[Jaime]

As bad as I hate it Obama is president.  This issue needs to die.  It is only making us conservatives look stupid.

All the more reason for Liberals to want it to continue.

[Jimbob]

I don't know why people that voted for Obama are disappointed in him.......he is doing exactly what he told the electorate he would do.

Many of them weren't really listening.  Some who were thought he only meant with other people's money.

[Jaime]

I don't know why people that voted for Obama are disappointed in him.......he is doing exactly what he told the electorate he would do.

Many of them weren't really listening.  Some who were thought he only meant with other people's money.

Yep!

[Quinn]

There is in existence a "Certified Copy if Registration of Birth" from Kenya, if anyone is interested, and a suit has been filed based on this document:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/

Don't dally.  "Hackers" have been tinkering with her sites from the git-go. (I have saved them to my own computer.)

Looks more legit than anything I have seen so far.

[Contrary to other reports, Stanley Ann was 16 when Barack was born, not 18 or 19.]

[In addition, I believe this copy was made in February 1964 after the Obama's filed for divorce in January 1964.]

Just curious - why would Kenya issue a birth certificate in 1964 for a baby born in 1961?

And why, if it were issued in February of 1964, would it say "Republic of Kenya" when Kenya didn't become a Republic until December of 1964?

[phoebe]

There is in existence a "Certified Copy if Registration of Birth" from Kenya, if anyone is interested, and a suit has been filed based on this document:

http://orlytaitzesq.com/

Don't dally.  "Hackers" have been tinkering with her sites from the git-go. (I have saved them to my own computer.)

Looks more legit than anything I have seen so far.

[Contrary to other reports, Stanley Ann was 16 when Barack was born, not 18 or 19.]

[In addition, I believe this copy was made in February 1964 after the Obama's filed for divorce in January 1964.]

Just curious - why would Kenya issue a birth certificate in 1964 for a baby born in 1961?

And why, if it were issued in February of 1964, would it say "Republic of Kenya" when Kenya didn't become a Republic until December of 1964?

If you look at my post, I indicated that this copy was made a month following Stanley Ann's filing for divorce from Obama Sr.  My guess is that she needed it for the divorce, and it was required by the court.  It's the most logical thing in this that gives it validity, IMO.

[phoebe]

As bad as I hate it Obama is president.  This issue needs to die.  It is only making us conservatives look stupid.

Why? Why must it die?

I don't feel stupid at all.  Not even when you say I am (as one who is pressing this story).  Aren't you interested in truth??  The man proclaimed "transparency", so let's make him be that, since he isn't doing it voluntarily.  I want to see his college records, as well.  If he is hiding half of what was in Michelle's thesis, no wonder he is hiding it - or if he even has a record at all.