startrek tos

[moonbeam99]

who else loves startrek?

[Nevertheless]

Tribbles!

[DaveW]

Beam me up Scotty!

[MyFathersGirl]

I love star trek.  I wish they'd have a convention around here and William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy would show up.  One of my favorite episodes is A Piece of the Action,

[Mere Nick]

A cool gig would to be Captain Pike in a recurring role.  You don't have to remember any lines and you would just have to sit there. 

[The Society]

I don't care what anybody says Kirk is far better than Picard any day. 

[DeaneRenata]

Star Trek....yes....been seeing it who life actually.

[DaveW]

I don't care what anybody says Kirk is far better than Picard any day.

Disagree. Both were good captains but in different ways. 

I assume you mean William Shatner's Kirk as opposed to Chris Pine (new movies), James Cawley (ST New Adventures) or Vic Mignogna (ST Continues).

I would have loved to see a movie with both TOS and NG crews working together on a mission.

[JohnDB70X7]

William Shatner has been much maligned over the years.

It's easy for us to sit back and judge a far more complicated craft than is generally known. One must consider many factors. The era of TOS (the 1960's) when people knew so little about the universe, and had in collective memory Flash Gordon and Forbidden Planet or Lost In Space TV shows. As an actor in uncharted territory, he had to apply his craft with the right amount of presence and camp to sell the thing to the audience of the day.

The budget was shoestring, but so are those in Broadway plays. The props and sets are cardboard-esque on Broadway yet the emphasis is on the magic of the presentation and players. Sure you can destroy any TOS set or presentation by today's standards... but these guys were the first to invent the thing. And the fanbase was started by them.

[JohnDB]

The main reason why we don't like Picard is that the actor who plays him came "out of the closet" a few years back.


Its not the role...its the actor himself we don't like.   

[MeMyself]

The main reason why we don't like Picard is that the actor who plays him came "out of the closet" a few years back.


Its not the role...its the actor himself we don't like.

He was mistakenly  "outed" and its not gay.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20788545,00.html

My dh and I are Patrick Stewart fans.  We loved him as Picard, and as Professor X in the X-men movies.   

[JohnDB70X7]

I did a play in grade school playing Frankenstein's monster in a class room with no make up and no props and I was supposed to destroy the village... moving the teachers desk a bit and doing what looked like push offs on the blackboard while grunting and growling felt foolish at the time... there are no bad parts just bad actors. And I was later praised by one who later tread the boards theirself as my having "sold" the part.

Hamming it up, over the top, being the star of the show (over say others having the same ego trip) are unfair assessments of William Shatner.

I recall hearing a recent exchange between a voiceover spot director and Shatner. The young director presumed superiority over Shatrner (spurned on no doubt by the harsh criticism of Shatner over the years and the many spoofs), and Shatner had had enough and put the director on the spot as to show him how to do what it was he though he could've done better in the spot.

http://boingboing.net/2012/10/27/william-shatner-schools-a-dire.html

[JohnDB70X7]

he doesn't even act a good gay part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6dOVgRev1U

[JohnDB]

Still not a Stewart fan.


I even like the accent.   Just not his acting.

[JohnDB70X7]

My favorite TOS episode is Doomsday Machine because of the plot (way more devastating than was acceptable at the time even though the guardians of the era had just been through two world wars). And the musical genius of Sol Kaplan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAfEXDCsRmg# (worth watching)



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[JohnDB70X7]

Yeah I hoped over the years of TNG that Riker would ascend to the Captaincy of the Enterprise D.

I have not gotten a straight answer out of Jon Frakes (we swap emails and barbs from time to time on message boards) but I believe the Best of Both Worlds part 1 was at a point of Stewart's contract  negotiation and the demise or rescue of Picard in part 2 was up for negotiational grabs.

[JohnDB70X7]

I grew to accept Stewart and his role in some very poignant TNG episodes (like Darmok).

I guess also that his "growing on me" is from revisiting the series as an older man myself. In the original 1987-94 run of the series, he was always too old (to me at the time) for the part. I was 26-34 in that time frame.

[JohnDB70X7]

I am quite the pest when it comes to trying to get Star Trek moguls to consider a new venue for Trek (The Ultimate Frontier) wherein out of necessity Trek expands its venue out into the universe reigniting much of the original man against the unknown far far far away from home...

http://startreknewideas.blogspot.com/

[MoodyMoose]

Tribbles!

Loved the Tribbles.

Red shirts! Beware!

I like Star Trek. The old reruns and the movies. Even Shatners over acting was tolerable.

[Nevertheless]

I thought Shatner did fine in Star Trek TOS, but he was awful in some of the movies.

[DaveW]

I thought Shatner did fine in Star Trek TOS, but he was awful in some of the movies.

And just about everything else he did. 

[Nevertheless]

Agreed!

[DaveW]

Even Shatners over acting was tolerable.

In the original series - I think that was how Roddenberry wanted that character to be.

[Buster D Body Crab]

Leonard Nimoy, Spock of 'Star Trek,' Dies at 83

[DaveW]

I am quite the pest when it comes to trying to get Star Trek moguls to consider a new venue for Trek (The Ultimate Frontier) wherein out of necessity Trek expands its venue out into the universe reigniting much of the original man against the unknown far far far away from home...

http://startreknewideas.blogspot.com/

It would be interesting if they actually did a crossover of sorts - to bridge the Trek universe with Roddenberry's 'Super Trek' concept which became Andromeda. 

Discovery of the Slipstream drive which would then expand the Federation beyond the Milky Way and into the neighboring galaxies of Andromeda and Triangulum. Since the setting for Andromeda was over a millennium after STNG, there is plenty of time to fill with interim series.

It would also generate some interesting new ship designs:

[NorrinRadd]

I am quite the pest when it comes to trying to get Star Trek moguls to consider a new venue for Trek (The Ultimate Frontier) wherein out of necessity Trek expands its venue out into the universe reigniting much of the original man against the unknown far far far away from home...

http://startreknewideas.blogspot.com/

It would be interesting if they actually did a crossover of sorts - to bridge the Trek universe with Roddenberry's 'Super Trek' concept which became Andromeda. 

Discovery of the Slipstream drive which would then expand the Federation beyond the Milky Way and into the neighboring galaxies of Andromeda and Triangulum. Since the setting for Andromeda was over a millennium after STNG, there is plenty of time to fill with interim series.

It would also generate some interesting new ship designs:

IIRC, the Andromeda concept was sort of the idealistic, Utopian Roddenberry speculating about what could happen in the far future if his idyllic Federation became TOO strong, and then complacent and careless.  One naturally sees the parallels to the "real world" and the great empires thereof.

In that vein, one of my favorite TOS episodes is A Taste of Armageddon.  Seems so prescient.  "Drones" and long-range missiles and such have many people thinking we should be able to wage wars "cleanly."