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KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I am not a KJV Only.

I believe all scripture is given by inspiration of God.

Respectfully ask, Are there any moderators who believe the KJV Holy Bibles are scripture ?

Its one of many translations. I use the amplified version which I think is the best.

Quote from: makahiya on Tue Feb 05, 2013 - 10:53:54
Respectfully ask, Are there any moderators who believe the KJV Holy Bibles are scripture ?

Yes, but not exclusively.

The KJV is the version of the Bible that I use most often, and I generally refer to the Textus Receptus (the Greek text upon which the KJV is based) as my Greek text.

But, I do believe that other translations are Scripture.

Jarrod

Quote from: Nevertheless on Tue Feb 05, 2013 - 12:57:33

Quote from: makahiya on Tue Feb 05, 2013 - 10:53:54
Respectfully ask, Are there any moderators who believe the KJV Holy Bibles are scripture ?

Yes, but not exclusively.

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe only the original manuscripts
were given by inspiration of God.  There are no original manuscripts.

#2. You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles" are given by inspiration of God.
There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Greek, Syrian, Latin, German, English,
French, Spanish, etc. bibles which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

#3. You cannot honestly say "the Greek N.T." or "all N.T. Greek texts"
are given by inspiration of God.There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult)
Greek N.T. texts which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.


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KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Please explain to me why you believe certain bibles are scripture given by inspiration of God.








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Quote from: makahiya on Wed Feb 06, 2013 - 11:05:53

Quote from: Nevertheless on Tue Feb 05, 2013 - 12:57:33

Quote from: makahiya on Tue Feb 05, 2013 - 10:53:54
Respectfully ask, Are there any moderators who believe the KJV Holy Bibles are scripture ?

Yes, but not exclusively.

#1. You cannot honestly state you have scripture if you believe only the original manuscripts
were given by inspiration of God.  There are no original manuscripts.

#2. You cannot honestly say "the bible" or "all bibles" are given by inspiration of God.
There are over 400 (Christian, Catholic, Cult) Greek, Syrian, Latin, German, English,
French, Spanish, etc. bibles which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.

#3. You cannot honestly say "the Greek N.T." or "all N.T. Greek texts"
are given by inspiration of God.There are over 24 reconstructed (Christian, Catholic, Cult)
Greek N.T. texts which do not match in content, volume or doctrine.


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KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Please explain to me why you believe certain bibles are scripture given by inspiration of God.

Probably I define inspiration differently than you do.  You seem to subscribe to a theory of verbal inspiration or dictation.  But I don't.  I believe that, while God directed the writers as to the content of Scripture, He allowed them to choose their own words to convey that message.

With that in mind, I don't find it particularly important whether a translation says "you" or "thou" in any particular verse, or even leaves out some margin notes or asides, as long as the overall message of the book is preserved and understood.

Here's an article that gives information on various views of inspiration of the Bible:  http://www.theopedia.com/Inspiration_of_the_Bible

You stated you have scipture and that the KJV Holy Bible is scripture.

Do you have scipture defined by KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  ?

KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Makahiya, you've gone from respectfully asking to attacking and arguing, and your arguments don't make sense.

Quote from: makahiya on Wed Feb 06, 2013 - 14:46:49
You stated you have scipture and that the KJV Holy Bible is scripture.

Do you have scipture defined by KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  ?

KJV 2 Timothy 3:16  All scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I use the same verse, but I find the English is poor here, and prefer the Greek text (Textus Receptus).  I'm not sure how to make Greek letters here, so I'll leave it to you to look it up.

Jarrod

Ok, Thank You Sirs

KJV That ye may approve things that are excellent;
that ye may be sincere and without offence till the day of Christ;


KJV willing spirit, humble spirit, broken spirit, patient spirit, excellent spirit, new spirit,
faithful spirit, meek and quiet spirit, refreshed spirit, strong in spirit, fervent in spirit

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Can a Christian be Possessed ?
yes

KJV Psalms 139:13  For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

KJV Proverbs 8:22  The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

KJV Luke 21:19  In your patience possess ye your souls.

KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:4  That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel
in sanctification and honour;


Can a Christian be indwelt by a devil ?
no

KJV Ephesians 4:30  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed
unto the day of redemption.

KJV 1 Corinthians 6:19  What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost
which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


Can a Christian be possessed by a devil ?
yes

KJV Act 5:3  But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost,
and to keep back part of the price of the land?

KJV 1 Corinthians 5:5  To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

When Webster collated the English language, 1828, his dictionary matched the KJV Bibles exactly.

Language is word definition.

KJV 2 Timothy 1:13  Hold fast the form of sound words,
which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Quote from: makahiya on Wed Feb 20, 2013 - 12:05:00
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Why was my thread removed ?
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Can a Christian be Possessed ?
yes

It wasn't removed, it was moved to the appropriate forum.

LINK

Oh, ok, thank you, GCCF is the best !

When someone asks for research references are we allowed to suggest websites ?

You sure can.  Just don't put it in your sig or start spamming it on every post, and it'll be just fine.

If I speaking to two different groups about the same topic

and I want to say the same thing to both groups

and I post the same thought, is that spamming ?

As long as what you say applies to the topic of both threads it would not be spamming.

I started a new thread  (Five reasons why you should believe the KJV Holy Bible.) .

Same topic as (AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible)                                                                                 

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I spend alot of time lecturing and when I post I simply present my newest scientific papers.

I've decided to spend my time on Grace Centered Christian Forums
teaching individuals at a personal level.

Thank you for your leadership in forum dialog.

makahiya,

what is your native language?

I started a new thread:  Apologetics:  Is There Anyone Who Believes the KJV Holy is Scripture

I want to have a discussion with different readers.

Please do not delete my new thread.

If you need to delete something, delete my older threads.

Thank you for your leadership in forum dialog.

The same individuals continually attack KJV Holy Bibles.

They continually repeat the same amateur accusations,

so I repeat the same response. What I post I wrote.

I have examined over 400 accusations against KJV Holy Bibles

and not one single attack is valid.

KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved bibles of all time,

yet these individuals are not warned about their hateful comments towards me.

Quote from: makahiya on Wed Apr 03, 2013 - 10:50:51
The same individuals continually attack KJV Holy Bibles.

They continually repeat the same amateur accusations,

so I repeat the same response. What I post I wrote.

I have examined over 400 accusations against KJV Holy Bibles

and not one single attack is valid.

KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved bibles of all time,

yet these individuals are not warned about their hateful comments towards me.

A strong word of advise.You need to allow Christians to use whever Bible is best and most helpful to them, and not keep trying to make others use the same one as you. I have used the amplified version for 25 years and love it. To me is by far the best version and I have tried several. You use what YOU like, but please leave others to do the same.

Hello...

I am new to the forum and I hope I am not out of line by jumping right in and getting to know everyone while sharing my views. First let me say that I am very open minded and as long as you can support your ideas with proof, I am willing to consider anything said. That being said, in my opinion I would much rather read a bible that is a "Translation" as opposed to a "Version". There are plenty of different bibles but I take into consideration the word translation means that you take the same information and translate it to an understandable language. On the other hand, version means it is a variant of another. Does anyone agree?  I do read the KJV but I prefer NWT

Quote from: erikad99 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 - 01:03:11
in my opinion I would much rather read a bible that is a "Translation" as opposed to a "Version". There are plenty of different bibles but I take into consideration the word translation means that you take the same information and translate it to an understandable language. On the other hand, version means it is a variant of another.

The thing is those labels are not hard and fast.  The KJ Version was a fresh translation in 1611. The NIV (New International Version) and the ESV (English Standard Version) are both current fresh translations.

OTOH, the Good News Translation and New Living Translation ares actually more paraphrases of earlier translations, what you call a "version."

QuoteDoes anyone agree?  I do read the KJV but I prefer NWT

I agree that proper translations are usually better than paraphrases.  That said, translations can be "word for word" or more phrase by phrase. The New American Standard Bible and the NIV are examples of each respectively. But translations that are slanted can lead people astray. That is why the translation team should represent a cross section of doctrinal stances.

Your NWT is one such translation. It is fatally flawed in it being exclusively the work of Jehovah Witness translators and is slanted toward their doctrine.

I believe the KJV to be an incomplete collection of the scriptures and not one that Christians should use.

Incomplete in what way?

The 1611 KJV had the entire deuterocannonical books included.

I wasn't aware that he was referring to the 1611 version.

He ALWAYS refers back to the 1611 KJV.

Quote from: DaveW on Fri Apr 05, 2013 - 05:35:45
He ALWAYS refers back to the 1611 KJV.

lol Oh one of those ey?

Quote from: LightHammer on Thu Apr 04, 2013 - 09:26:54
I believe the KJV to be an incomplete collection of the scriptures and not one that Christians should use.

Does that extend to Erasmus' Greek texts that it was translated from?

Please accept my apology if I sounded offensive.

Please know that my comments are purely academic and not personal.

I will be more sensitive in my posts.

Thank you for your grace centered supervision.

Quote from: LightHammer on Fri Apr 05, 2013 - 10:52:18

Quote from: DaveW on Fri Apr 05, 2013 - 05:35:45
He ALWAYS refers back to the 1611 KJV.

lol Oh one of those ey?

Yup.  Here is a typical post:

Quote from: makahiya on Wed Apr 03, 2013 - 10:59:44
While the entire line of scripture are records, the outstanding record of scripture
and the scripture of final authority is the published text and form
of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.

All KJV Holy Bibles are editions of the AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible first edition.
KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved bibles of all time.
KJV Holy Bibles are the most published, read and loved books of all time.
( USA Bible Society 2013 )

The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
and final canonization (books and words).

The dynamic Purified Text Theory supports the Record Theory,
demonstrated categorically and conclusively
in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,
billions of bibles and computational linguistics.