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Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 15:25:58
I visit Christian sites and Christian FB groups all the time. Which is why I open my Posts the way I do. Because everywhere I go, there's always moderators who think "Moderator" is some form of Spiritual office equal to Pastor where they think they are "Watchers over peoples' souls" and they're not. Moderator is not a spiritual calling.

I get kicked off alot of Christian sites. Sometimes only after an opening post. And I'm going to tell you as God as my witness, 100% of the time, only women have a problem, the guys are cool. The women like to throw around the words: "rude", "mean", "insensitive", "arrogant", etc....This is a constant thing.

The women think that just because they feel sensitively offended, then God must feel the same way as them. God isn't that sensitive and isn't easily moved by what comes out of Man's mouth or how they articulate being that He is the Maker of the mouth.

That's the end of my rant about moderators. I'd like to peacefully continue my talk with RB and Layceers without moderators thinking they can say whatever they want just because they are the moderators.

Women are far more intuitive and can pick up things like attitudes far more easily than men.

However calling someones faith into question is surely the ultimate in offensive?

There will be a reason why you are kicked off a lot of sites. Is that the reason why you are being vague here and not openly stating your case on what you think is so terribly wrong with the Christian church? It would be far more honest if you would say what you mean and not beat round the bush and avoid committing yourself.

A challenge, clearly give a list of the ways you think we are so terribly wrong and why, and then people here can discuss it and give their beliefs and opinions in return.  Or would that be just too easy?

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 15:36:04
Women are far more intuitive and can pick up things like attitudes far more easily than men.

Sometimes you are so full of it that I am astounded.

chosenone,

I have to ease into these conversations slowly because sites like this do ban me if I come out with my "big guns" early in. (Theres some very stubborn Christian sites out there that'll ban you even if you are a Christian and you believe only slightly different from them. As a matter of fact, I started out getting kicked off of sites while I was still a Christian lol!) I'll get called herectic, devil, etc...and all kinds of other things before I get kicked off. And this is without breaking any rules.

You can ask me questions. Not a bunch at one time because then I won't answer. But if you Post a direct question to me, I'll readily respond. If you ask why I'm not a Christian anymore, I'll say I've already answered that. If you ask about baptism, I've already answered that(still more to say). Just ask something.

I'll let you ask me this Q. But the only reason I've avoided putting it out there ahead of time is because I still kinda need to see how tolerant this "Christian" site is. I do see it's been asked before but I was busy addressing others. Ask this:

"What is a Christian to you?"

Also, a woman's intuition isn't a flawless gift from God and definitely dangerous if you confuse that with spiritual discernment as women I've encountered on sites do.

I've been in a good mood ever since I came here. I've been riding a high of anticipation since the first replier. You don't know people's attitudes 100% because you've never spent any real time with them to know their mannerisms. I'm an inner-city guy, I run into many people from rural areas such as my wife who had to learn my speech overtime because she wasn't used to my mannerisms.

All that to say, your intuition isn't God's prescriptive measure for how you judge a person's spirit. So, for a woman to bank on that, is an error in judgment or in the way of error.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:32:56
chosenone,

I have to ease into these conversations slowly because sites like this do ban me if I come out with my "big guns" early in. (Theres some very stubborn Christian sites out there that'll ban you even if you are a Christian and you believe only slightly different from them. As a matter of fact, I started out getting kicked off of sites while I was still a Christian lol!) I'll get called herectic, devil, etc...and all kinds of other things before I get kicked off. And this is without breaking any rules.

You can ask me questions. Not a bunch at one time because then I won't answer. But if you Post a direct question to me, I'll readily respond. If you ask why I'm not a Christian anymore, I'll say I've already answered that. If you ask about baptism, I've already answered that(still more to say). Just ask something.

I'll let you ask me this Q. But the only reason I've avoided putting it out there ahead of time is because I still kinda need to see how tolerant this "Christian" site is. I do see it's been asked before but I was busy addressing others. Ask this:

"What is a Christian to you?"

If you use the bible to show your beliefs, you can do pretty much what you want.

Go to the Theology Forum.  Start a Topic on a popular doctrine you want to deconstruct, and provide scriptural basis.  It literally is that easy.  And I think it will provide better conversation that your current approach.

Covenant keeper, that was my point, that you are not wanting to state up front honestly what you disagreements are with the Christian church.Its all a bit cloak and dagger right now isnt it. 
Instead of asking us questions, how about you state what the main disagreements are? Far more honest and straight forward.
Either a list or one at a time. Then we will all know where we are and whoever wants to can discuss it. We are pretty lenient here, as long as the main beliefs of Christianity as stated in the nicene creed are adhered to.

Texas Conservative,

I don't intend my talks to be heavy enough for the Theology Forum. This is light talk which is why I haven't littered my replies with the whole BibleGateway(exaggeration). This Post and the topics that appear aren't going to be deep.

I know where to go for deep discussions.

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:29:25

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 15:36:04
Women are far more intuitive and can pick up things like attitudes far more easily than men.

Sometimes you are so full of it that I am astounded.

Its a well known fact that women are more intuitive. I thought everyone knew that. 

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 15:36:04

QuoteWomen are far more intuitive and can pick up things like attitudes far more easily than men.

Maybe you have forgotten your mother Eve. Judy whether men or women, the key is which of the two are spiritual minded, sex matters little. The word of God plainly said that women are the weaker vessel of the two. You are saying something that you cannot prove with the word of God. There are some spiritual minded women on this forum, as well as men, but for you to say what you just said is said without very much wisdom based upon the scriptures.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:49:06
Texas Conservative,

I don't intend my talks to be heavy enough for the Theology Forum. This is light talk which is why I haven't littered my replies with the whole BibleGateway(exaggeration). This Post and the topics that appear aren't going to be deep.

I know where to go for deep discussions.

I thought that was what you wanted Covkeeper , in depth discussions with like minded people?

What do you hope to achieve? To persuade people to your way of thinking? For more people to call themselves ex Christians?

Quote from: RB on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:50:26

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 15:36:04

QuoteWomen are far more intuitive and can pick up things like attitudes far more easily than men.

Maybe you have forgotten your mother Eve. Judy whether men or women, the key is which of the two are spiritual minded, sex matters little. The word of God plainly said that women are the weaker vessel of the two. You are saying something that you cannot prove with the word of God. There are some spiritual minded women on this forum, as well as men, but for you to say what you just said is said without very much wisdom based upon the scriptures.

  I wasnt talking about spiritual discernment or anything like that, but intuition concerning people and situations generally. 
Eve wasnt my mother Red, but a lady who lived a very very long time ago.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:32:56I have to ease into these conversations slowly because sites like this do ban me if I come out with my "big guns" early in

This forum is very merciful, so I would suggest that you go with what you think is truth. If it is indeed truth, then there will be no problem. That's not to say, that all will agree, but I do believe that a person should be totally UP FRONT with what they have to say, and trust God for result.

Ok chosenone,

Here is the one word that get's me banned from Christian sites:

LAW....because mainstream Christianity says it's done away with...and it's not.

It's threatens the whole foundation of Christianity and I'll get kicked off before I even get a chance to show why the Christian religion destroys the ancient Faith because of that. You have no idea the hostility that comes because of this even down to mysterious threats through email.

Do you want to go down this path of talking to me about that, does anyone?

Quote from: RB on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:56:38

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:32:56I have to ease into these conversations slowly because sites like this do ban me if I come out with my "big guns" early in

This forum is very merciful, so I would suggest that you go with what you think is truth. If it is indeed truth, then there will be no problem. That not to say, that all will agree, but I do believe that a person should be totally UP FRONT with what they have to say, and trust God for result.

As you say if its truth and Biblical then there will be no problem.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:59:25
Ok chosenone,

Here is the one word that get's me banned from Christian sites:

LAW....because mainstream Christianity says it's done away with...and it's not.

It's threatens the whole foundation of Christianity and I'll get kicked off before I even get a chance to show why the Christian religion destroys the ancient Faith because of that. You have no idea the hostility that comes because of this even down to mysterious threats through email.

Do you want to go down this path of talking to me about that, does anyone?

Oy gosh.  That path has been trod down and back again that it more a rut than a walkway any more. Nothing new under the sun, don't you know? 

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:59:25
Ok chosenone,

Here is the one word that get's me banned from Christian sites:

LAW....because mainstream Christianity says it's done away with...and it's not.

It's threatens the whole foundation of Christianity and I'll get kicked off before I even get a chance to show why the Christian religion destroys the ancient Faith because of that. You have no idea the hostility that comes because of this even down to mysterious threats through email.

Do you want to go down this path of talking to me about that, does anyone?

If you use scripture the very worst that will happen is that it will get relegated to the Non-Traditional Theology forum.

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:53:40Eve wasnt my mother Red, but a lady who lived a very very long time ago.

Judy, what does Eve mean? Yes she IS your mother, and Adam is your father, based upon the word of God Almighty.

QuoteI wasnt talking about spiritual discernment or anything like that, but intuition concerning people and situations generally. 

I do not care how you spin, turn it, or consider it~women are the weaker vessel, of the two. Weaker, means both are, only women more so. That's not my understanding, but God's testimony of the two. I'll go with God's witness concerning the this. Mama Eve was not too wise concerning the wiles of Satan, was she? 

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:59:25
Ok chosenone,

Here is the one word that get's me banned from Christian sites:

LAW....because mainstream Christianity says it's done away with...and it's not.

It's threatens the whole foundation of Christianity and I'll get kicked off before I even get a chance to show why the Christian religion destroys the ancient Faith because of that. You have no idea the hostility that comes because of this even down to mysterious threats through email.

Do you want to go down this path of talking to me about that, does anyone?

OK. you will actually find that this topic has been talked about and discussed here many many times openly, with many opinions and beliefs on both sides.
I cant see how that can threaten the whole foundation of Christianity though, as the foundation is surely Jesus Christ and who He is and what He has done for us. 

You wont be banned for talking about the law.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:59:25LAW....because mainstream Christianity says it's done away with...and it's not. Do you want to go down this path of talking to me about that, does anyone?

Let it roll my friend, let it roll. We have people here all time that discuss this very subject, so please say what you believe is truth.

Quote from: RB on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:03:17

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:53:40Eve wasnt my mother Red, but a lady who lived a very very long time ago.

Judy, what does Eve mean? Yes she IS your mother, and Adam is your father, based upon the word of God Almighty.

QuoteI wasnt talking about spiritual discernment or anything like that, but intuition concerning people and situations generally. 

I do not care how you spin, turn it, or consider it~women are the weaker vessel, of the two. Weaker, means both are, only women more so. That's not my understanding, but God's testimony of the two. I'll go with God's witness concerning the this. Mama Eve was not too wise concerning the wiles of Satan, was she?

No..she wasn't...and I can see how women are more easily swayed by every shifting sand, and its mostly based in fear.

In my marriage, I am more intuitive...I am quicker to notice the nuances of a changed expression, a flash in the eyes, a heart that is on the verge of blowing up or giving up, but my dh is better at noticing what will sweep me over the edge into the abyss if that makes sense?  I am motivated by emotion, and can have that used against me, to manipulate me and bring me (an potentially family) to my demise...he is not as easily swayed by what I am, and can see the dangers that my strength brings with it, on the other side of it, and he has stood in the gap when I needed him to say "NO!"

Same for him with the other side of his strengths, and I can see what he cannot.

MeMyself,

I told you guys early on, I'm nothing like what you've encountered before. Far from it because I've probably seen on others what you think you're gonna see in me.

But you sit back with your popcorn and see how I operate. I promise it'll be worth your time.

chosenone,

I know, I've been on plenty of sites and I've seen how they turn out...

But like I told you all I'm nothing like them.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:10:19
MeMyself,

I told you guys early on, I'm nothing like what you've encountered before. Far from it because I've probably seen on others what you think you're gonna see in me.

But you sit back with your popcorn and see how I operate. I promise it'll be worth your time.

Ecclesiastes 1:9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

I think, perhaps you think too highly of things that should not be thought so highly of...

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:10:19
MeMyself,

I told you guys early on, I'm nothing like what you've encountered before. Far from it because I've probably seen on others what you think you're gonna see in me.

But you sit back with your popcorn and see how I operate. I promise it'll be worth your time.

That's fine, you can be the General.  Just realize playa, The Brigadier General is me.

Quote from: RB on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:03:17

Quote from: chosenone on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 16:53:40Eve wasnt my mother Red, but a lady who lived a very very long time ago.

Judy, what does Eve mean? Yes she IS your mother, and Adam is your father, based upon the word of God Almighty.

QuoteI wasnt talking about spiritual discernment or anything like that, but intuition concerning people and situations generally. 

I do not care how you spin, turn it, or consider it~women are the weaker vessel, of the two. Weaker, means both are, only women more so. That's not my understanding, but God's testimony of the two. I'll go with God's witness concerning the this. Mama Eve was not too wise concerning the wiles of Satan, was she?

Women have their strengths and weaknesses and men have theirs, one of most women's strengths is their intuition. Generally its not one of men's strengths, they have other strengths that woman dont have. That's why when men and women marry, together they can have all the attributes of God as a whole. My husband freely admits that he hasnt got a clue when it comes to picking up on things that are going on, or on what is happening with the people around him, yet he has many other strengths that I dont have. 

Is it normal to blame all women for what one did? Or all men for what one did? Seem incredibly unfair.

I have to give a disclaimer about myself, first.

People who go down this path with me, with Bible open, do not stay Christian long. This is no exaggeration. People over 30yrs into Christianity have converted away from it to a more purer Form due to my method of conveying information. I will strictly use KJV and may only reference ESV once or twice or so(idk, we'll see).

I'm just warning you all ahead of time.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:10:19
MeMyself,

I told you guys early on, I'm nothing like what you've encountered before. Far from it because I've probably seen on others what you think you're gonna see in me.

But you sit back with your popcorn and see how I operate. I promise it'll be worth your time.

As long as you accept and realise that your ideas and theories may well not be accepted or agreed with. As I said we have discussed this a lot and all the different sides have all given their verses and thoughts and beliefs. 

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:18:40
I have to give a disclaimer about myself, first.

People who go down this path with me, with Bible open, do not stay Christian long. This is no exaggeration. People over 30yrs into Christianity have converted away from it to a more purer Form due to my method of conveying information. I will strictly use KJV and may only reference ESV once or twice or so(idk, we'll see).

I'm just warning you all ahead of time.

A disclaimer from me also, I will never stop using the name of Jesus Christ in how I describe myself as his follower. It would be like denying Jesus Himself.

Quote from: MeMyself on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:08:57No..she wasn't..

I'll go with God's witness of this.

Quote2nd Corinthians 11:3...Reads~ "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ."

Again it is written:

Quote1st Timothy 2:14....Reads~"And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."

You said:

QuoteIn my marriage, I am more intuitive.

MeMyself, there will be exception in every marriage, and I will not disagree with this~but, exceptions only proves that the rule stands! Sure you can find exceptions to the rule, I have seen this in my life time, but, I have seen the rule much more.  Good night~ tomorrow, the Lord willing.

Cov, when are you going to stop showboating and get on with it?

Also,

Because the historical Jesus is Jewish, I will only refer to Him as Yeshua from now because that is the name given to Him at birth and only call Him Jesus when conveying how Christianity views Him so you will see the difference. 

I will also place the Title Rabbi before His name because the historical "Jesus" is a Rabbi.

I will also refer to Paul by his Hebrew name Shaul. I'll add the Title Rav at the beginning as well because it is said that he also is a rabbi.

All this, so things can stay in their proper frame biblically.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:29:56
Also,

Because the historical Jesus is Jewish, I will only refer to Him as Yeshua from now because that is the name given to Him at birth and only call Him Jesus when conveying how Christianity views Him so you will see the difference. 

I will also place the Title Rabbi before His name because the historical "Jesus" is a Rabbi.

I will also refer to Paul by his Hebrew name Shaul. I'll add the Title Rav at the beginning as well because it is said that he also is a rabbi.

All this, so things can stay in their proper frame biblically.

I hope you quote the Koine Greek

mommydi,

The wait is over. It's begun.

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:31:17

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:29:56
Also,

Because the historical Jesus is Jewish, I will only refer to Him as Yeshua from now because that is the name given to Him at birth and only call Him Jesus when conveying how Christianity views Him so you will see the difference. 

I will also place the Title Rabbi before His name because the historical "Jesus" is a Rabbi.

I will also refer to Paul by his Hebrew name Shaul. I'll add the Title Rav at the beginning as well because it is said that he also is a rabbi.

All this, so things can stay in their proper frame biblically.

I hope you quote the Koine Greek

I won't need to

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:33:18

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:31:17

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:29:56
Also,

Because the historical Jesus is Jewish, I will only refer to Him as Yeshua from now because that is the name given to Him at birth and only call Him Jesus when conveying how Christianity views Him so you will see the difference. 

I will also place the Title Rabbi before His name because the historical "Jesus" is a Rabbi.

I will also refer to Paul by his Hebrew name Shaul. I'll add the Title Rav at the beginning as well because it is said that he also is a rabbi.

All this, so things can stay in their proper frame biblically.

I hope you quote the Koine Greek

I won't need to

Why not use the Bible as it was written?

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Tue Dec 01, 2015 - 17:29:56
Also,

Because the historical Jesus is Jewish, I will only refer to Him as Yeshua from now because that is the name given to Him at birth and only call Him Jesus when conveying how Christianity views Him so you will see the difference. 

I will also place the Title Rabbi before His name because the historical "Jesus" is a Rabbi.

I will also refer to Paul by his Hebrew name Shaul. I'll add the Title Rav at the beginning as well because it is said that he also is a rabbi.

All this, so things can stay in their proper frame biblically.

Why don't you wear a prayer shawl and Scriptural ribbons around your fingers, then? Perhaps get a pigeon outside so you can offer it before the Lord?

You really think you'll get more brownie points from the Lord by doing so? All you're doing is walking in a religious spirit, walking by a letter instead of by the Spirit. Saul's name was changed into Paul, and he fully acknowledged, accepted, and embraced it, so you're gonna insult him by acknowledging him by his former name? Not to even mention giving him a title, something he would be adamantly against.