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Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:21:52

Quote from: chosenone on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 06:41:50
please refer back to post 186 ck 

it ends in these words.

For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."
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I'm going to address this immediately after work tonight. This is always one of my favorite ones when Christians use it. The answer will be biblical.

Its already Biblical.   

How about this. I SO love this passage, especially the last sentence

Galatians 5
Walk by the Spirit
5 It was for this freedom that Christ set us free [completely liberating us]; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery [which you once removed].

2 Notice, it is I, Paul, who tells you that if you receive circumcision [as a supposed requirement of salvation], Christ will be of no benefit to you [for you will lack the faith in Christ that is necessary for salvation]. 3 Once more I solemnly affirm to every man who receives circumcision [as a supposed requirement of salvation], that he is under obligation and required to keep the whole Law. 4 You have been severed from Christ, if you seek to be [a]justified [that is, declared free of the guilt of sin and its penalty, and placed in right standing with God] through the Law; you have fallen from grace [for you have lost your grasp on God's unmerited favor and blessing]. 5 For we [not relying on the Law but] through the [strength and power of the Holy] Spirit, by faith, are waiting [confidently] for the hope of righteousness [the completion of our salvation]. 6 For [if we are] in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but only faith activated and expressed and working through love.

7 You were running [the race] well; who has interfered and prevented you from obeying the truth? 8 This [deceptive] persuasion is not from Him who called you [to freedom in Christ]. 9 A little leaven [a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers] leavens the whole batch [it perverts the concept of faith and misleads the church]. 10 I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view [contrary to mine on the matter]; but the one who is disturbing you, whoever he is, will have to bear the penalty. 11 But as for me, [c]brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision [as I had done before I met Christ; and as [d]some accuse me of doing now, as necessary for salvation], why am I still being persecuted [by Jews]? In that case the stumbling block of the cross [to unbelieving Jews] has been abolished. 12 I wish that those who are troubling you [by teaching that circumcision is necessary for salvation] would even [go all the way and] castrate themselves!

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:10:56Brief Intermission--Defusing RB***sgh***

Really? Sir, it's almost laughable that you truly believe that you have done so, or, even attempted to do so. If this is what you call defusing a person's teachings, then you need to think again~but, what do we expect from children of the bond woman? Just what we are hearing. You are a child of Ishmael mocking the children of faith, the holy seed of Jesus Christ.

QuoteIs the Law done away with, RB?

Yes, and No. Now there you have, see if you have enough insight to know what I mean by answer to you. But I do not think you are able to do so, so I will help you out. Yes, it is done away as a means to enter into eternal life, as given to the first Adam; NO, we still are under it as a rule of life to live by~for the Law is holy, good, above all~the most spiritual set of commandments to live by....YET, we do not seek our acceptance through it, but through Jesus Christ, who alone lived under it and perfectly kept it in word and deed, from conception to death...FOR ME and every child of promise.

Quote from: chosenone on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:37:01

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:21:52

Quote from: chosenone on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 06:41:50
please refer back to post 186 ck 

it ends in these words.

For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: 29 that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell."
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I'm going to address this immediately after work tonight. This is always one of my favorite ones when Christians use it. The answer will be biblical.

Its already Biblical.   

haha! Exactly!   

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:10:56
Brief Intermission--Defusing RB
***sgh***

what are you ****sighing**** about?

What did Christ mean when He said He came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it?

He was referring to changing our hearts rather than to perform a check list of dos and don'ts that one might feel has kept them in good standing with God.

The law was simply not enough to offer salvation, that was the purpose for Christ and why we needed Him and continue to need Him.

I don't think anyone here is purporting that the law is a thing of the past, members here generally seem to acknowledge that we need to do our best to do the will of God, not only by the letter but with a proper heart condition.   

Al

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 10:22:55
What did Christ mean when He said He came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it?

He was referring to changing our hearts rather than to perform a check list of dos and don'ts that one might feel has kept them in good standing with God.

The law was simply not enough to offer salvation, that was the purpose for Christ and why we needed Him and continue to need Him.

I don't think anyone here is purporting that the law is a thing of the past, members here generally seem to acknowledge that we need to do our best to do the will of God, not only by the letter but with a proper heart condition.   

Al

yes. 

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 10:22:55
What did Christ mean when He said He came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it?

He was referring to changing our hearts rather than to perform a check list of dos and don'ts that one might feel has kept them in good standing with God.

The law was simply not enough to offer salvation, that was the purpose for Christ and why we needed Him and continue to need Him.

I don't think anyone here is purporting that the law is a thing of the past, members here generally seem to acknowledge that we need to do our best to do the will of God, not only by the letter but with a proper heart condition.   

Al

Amen!  Christ came to fulfill the requirements of the Law, and when we claim Him as Lord, our hearts are made pure.

The Law exists to point to our failings and need for Christ's intervention.

CovK, I have a question.

If I am so wrong in my beliefs and evidently living in sin for not keeping the "law" why is God so good to me?   He answers my prayers, gives me comfort and is always showing me that He is here with me.

I will give you one great example.    My daughter was pregnant and had an ultrasound that showed severe abnormalities.    The Dr. and nurse recommended that she consider ending the pregnancy.   They said that "if" the baby did make it full term and was born, he would have profound mental retardation and probably die as an infant.   My daughter took this to heart and with much sorrow, made the appt. to get an abortion.    When they were examining her prior to the procedure they were giving her an ultrasound.   The Dr. left the ultasound wand  on her belly and turned away for a second and just then my granson kicked so hard the ultasound wand "flew" off my daughters belly and hit the floor.    (This was odd because my daughter had only felt slight movements from the baby so far.)  My daughter knew in her heart what that meant.   She immediately got up, got dressed, left and promised the Lord that she would accept whatever was to happen with his help.

My grandson was born full term several months later at Rainbow Babies and Children's Hosp. in Cleveland.   He remained their for about 2 months.   He did have some very serious disabilities.     But we held him up in our church (Methodist) every Sunday and he just kept improving.   
Long story short:   He was delayed a bit in starting school but caught right up and made the Honor Roll all through High School.    Even played football one season!!      He now he is in his first year of college at RIT in NY and doing pretty good, I might add.   He is a miracle child of God.    And I thank the Lord every day for him!!!

CovK, this is just one example of how the Lord has blessed and taken care of my family and myself in my life.    And if like you say, we are to use common sense, rational thinking and good reasoning, then I think I MUST be doing something right where my Christianity is concerned.   That makes "common sense" and "rational thinking" to me.

Quote from: Layceers on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 12:43:06He is a miracle child of God.    And I thank the Lord every day for him!!!

What a wonderful testimony my dear sister! The same thing happened with my second grandson. The doctors told my son that something was wrong with the child, and they recommended the same thing to my daughter-in-law~and we told them that we will take just what God gave us, but there would be no abortion, and it was not even an option. The boy was born, and had a sight problem with a ticking eye, other than that, he was beautiful, and later proved to be highly intelligent. Caleb finished high school with a 4.5 and in now in Clemson doing the same with extremely hard courses. The Lord is indeed GOOD. Caleb has a brother named Joshua, who is autistic~who has shown us that God is more gracious than we would have ever known with out him.   

Quote from: Layceers on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 12:43:06
CovK, I have a question.

If I am so wrong in my beliefs and evidently living in sin for not keeping the "law" why is God so good to me?   He answers my prayers, gives me comfort and is always showing me that He is here with me.

I will give you one great example.    My daughter was pregnant and had an ultrasound that showed severe abnormalities.    The Dr. and nurse recommended that she consider ending the pregnancy.   They said that "if" the baby did make it full term and was born, he would have profound mental retardation and probably die as an infant.   My daughter took this to heart and with much sorrow, made the appt. to get an abortion.    When they were examining her prior to the procedure they were giving her an ultrasound.   The Dr. left the ultasound wand  on her belly and turned away for a second and just then my granson kicked so hard the ultasound wand "flew" off my daughters belly and hit the floor.    (This was odd because my daughter had only felt slight movements from the baby so far.)  My daughter knew in her heart what that meant.   She immediately got up, got dressed, left and promised the Lord that she would accept whatever was to happen with his help.

My grandson was born full term several months later at Rainbow Babies and Children's Hosp. in Cleveland.   He remained their for about 2 months.   He did have some very serious disabilities.     But we held him up in our church (Methodist) every Sunday and he just kept improving.   
Long story short:   He was delayed a bit in starting school but caught right up and made the Honor Roll all through High School.    Even played football one season!!      He now he is in his first year of college at RIT in NY and doing pretty good, I might add.   He is a miracle child of God.    And I thank the Lord every day for him!!!

CovK, this is just one example of how the Lord has blessed and taken care of my family and myself in my life.    And if like you say, we are to use common sense, rational thinking and good reasoning, then I think I MUST be doing something right where my Christianity is concerned.   That makes "common sense" and "rational thinking" to me.

Layceers,

Good to hear from you again. First of all, I will never rob a Christian of their testimony. After all, I found the God of Creation through Christianity, I'm just able to see the Jewish Messiah without that Religion now.

You asked why God is so good to you even though you disregard the Covenant that even our Master obeyed. The answer is simply this:

God will accommodate our ignorances but when the knowledge comes, you will be without excuse...and knowledge has come to you by way of the info in this Post.

Will God then continue blessing you if you still refuse that Covenant? Sure, you just proved that He has been already. But on the other hand, will God give you the promises of that Covenant seeing as you reject it but think you're entitled to it riding on Christ's coattail--who Himself lived by it in His lifetime? No!! (Despite popular Christian belief)

By the way, if Christ lived by that Covenant, it makes Him a hypocrit if He's telling you that you dont have to. But Christianity won't let you think that through RATIONALLY lol.

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 10:22:55
What did Christ mean when He said He came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it?

He was referring to changing our hearts rather than to perform a check list of dos and don'ts that one might feel has kept them in good standing with God.

The law was simply not enough to offer salvation, that was the purpose for Christ and why we needed Him and continue to need Him.

I don't think anyone here is purporting that the law is a thing of the past, members here generally seem to acknowledge that we need to do our best to do the will of God, not only by the letter but with a proper heart condition.   

Al

Are you asking me, sir?

AMEN RB...God IS Good!!   

That is the point.    If we are so wrong in our beliefs, why do we have a Father who is so good to us.   I know from experience the admonishment/discipline/instruction I can receive when I go the wrong way.     It is not fun!   So if we are constantly not following God's "law", why then is he not letting us know that we are in dangerous territory.    Instead he is blessing us beyond measure, communicating with us, answering prayers and helping us get through the natural calamities of life that we all occasionally face.
I cannot even imagine living my life without the wonderful, loving Father I have.   

And if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.    It think that is "common sense."   

Quote from: Layceers on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 14:35:17
AMEN RB...God IS Good!!   

That is the point.    If we are so wrong in our beliefs, why do we have a Father who is so good to us.   I know from experience the admonishment/discipline/instruction I can receive when I go the wrong way.     It is not fun!   So if we are constantly not following God's "law", why then is he not letting us know that we are in dangerous territory.    Instead he is blessing us beyond measure, communicating with us, answering prayers and helping us get through the natural calamities of life that we all occasionally face.
I cannot even imagine living my life without the wonderful, loving Father I have.   

And if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.    It think that is "common sense."   

I just answered this (see above)

I saw that after I posted.   We were posting at about the same time.   It was not a rebuttal just an addition to my other post.   

However, I have another question.   There are hundreds of OT laws.  Work laws, hygiene laws, gender specific laws, and on and on.   It would be impossible to keep some of them and impractical to observe others.    Specifically, which laws are you talking about?   Is there a list of the ones we are still required to obey?

chosenone,

Lol, don't think I forgot about you. I'm on a very short lunch break. So, while I'm at work here's some homework for you in light of your Acts reference:

Remember what I said about CONSISTENCY and WITNESSES?:

If you believe the Spirit ONLY gave some of the Law for Gentiles to obey, you should be able to find that consistent in the FT with SCRIPTURAL witnesses--being that it is the FOUNDATION to EVERYTHING those JEWISH Believers taught in the NT. Go back into the Torah and Tanakh and see if you can find some. The Spirit won't contradict the Word in any point.

But I've done your homework for you, you won't find it!! Which means the Christian interpretation of that Acts passage is wrong. But hey, maybe you'll surprise me (I doubt it lol).

I'll give the Biblical understanding of that later using BOTH HALVES of the Bible, something your Religion can't do. Why? Because it's a false religious system. I'll show you why after I get off lol

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 07:10:56 Many Christians do in fact believe the Law is done away with and I know many do because I talk to many. I'm proving that to be false belief in front of you all using mere common sense.

You have so much error, that it is hard to know which one to expose. Would you like to know what God thinks of "common sense", or man's wisdom? It's worthless as a pile of dung.

QuoteProverbs 3:5-7...Reads~"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil."

Again:

QuoteJohn 2:24,25...Reads~"But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man."

You sir, are desiring man to trust in himself for the needed wisdom to know truth, yet TRUTH comes by Divine revelation, not through "common sense"! Whatever is common among men, has always proven to be a abomination to the Holy God of heaven and earth. I could heap hundred of scriptures to prove my point, but truth is not what you are after.

But, allow me to test you. You say that Christians only use half of the word of God, yet you know not what you are saying. I use all of the word of God, as a guide for me in living my life JUST AS Jesus would have done if he was here. Now what I am going to say, many will not believe the way that I do on this point, so I am speaking here about my personal conviction based upon the word of God and my understanding of it.  This will be hard for most to accept what I am going to say, yet this is my personal conviction to show people like you just how much I used ALL OF the word of God to live by. 

There was a mass killing yesterday in Southern California unmerciful carrying out by wicked people who hate others just because they are Americans. These murders killed people who were giving THEM A PARTY and gifts for their new born child. Thank God they were killed for their wicked deeds. The couple left a six month old child.  Question: What would Samuel do with the child? What did God command Saul to do with the Amalekites, for what they had done to Israel? 1st Samuel 15..specially verse 3..just as they did to Israel, God commanded Saul to do to them, did he not? What should be done with this six month old child? Should the child be left here in America? I will not say what I would do, because most cannot take it, because most refuse to think the way the scriptures teach us to think.  So for now I will say this~the child must go. That child will grow up and follow in the steps of its parents, unless God intervene. But if he chooses to do so, let it be in the middle east and not here. Now, if the God does not desire for that child to leave, which he should, then God can protect that child just as he protected Moses as a child and just as he protected Jesus as a child. I would show the world that we mean business. Kill one of ours, then we will kill two of yours. I would follow Samuel. Who would you follow? Hilary Clinton? 

Quote from: Layceers on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 14:50:40
I saw that after I posted.   We were posting at about the same time.   It was not a rebuttal just an addition to my other post.   

However, I have another question.   There are hundreds of OT laws.  Work laws, hygiene laws, gender specific laws, and on and on.   It would be impossible to keep some of them and impractical to observe others.    Specifically, which laws are you talking about?   Is there a list of the ones we are still required to obey?

Go back and read your Law. Keep everything that apparently still applies to you today. Yes, I'm telling you to stop believing what Christianity is telling you about the Law and go see about it yourself.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 15:02:27
chosenone,

Lol, don't think I forgot about you. I'm on a very short lunch break. So, while I'm at work here's some homework for you in light of your Acts reference:

Remember what I said about CONSISTENCY and WITNESSES?:

If you believe the Spirit ONLY gave some of the Law for Gentiles to obey, you should be able to find that consistent in the FT with SCRIPTURAL witnesses--being that it is the FOUNDATION to EVERYTHING those JEWISH Believers taught in the NT. Go back into the Torah and Tanakh and see if you can find some. The Spirit won't contradict the Word in any point.

But I've done your homework for you, you won't find it!! Which means the Christian interpretation of that Acts passage is wrong. But hey, maybe you'll surprise me (I doubt it lol).

I'll give the Biblical understanding of that later using BOTH HALVES of the Bible, something your Religion can't do. Why? Because it's a false religious system. I'll show you why after I get off lol

You mentioned that you believe that circumcision should still be obeserved and yet paul has scathing words for those like yourself who still demand that gentile believers are circumcised and observe other such jewish traditions.

I think this is the third time that I have posted this but here goes again

7 You were running [the race] well; who has interfered and prevented you from obeying the truth? 8 This [deceptive] persuasion is not from Him who called you [to freedom in Christ]. 9 A little leaven [a slight inclination to error, or a few false teachers] leavens the whole batch [it perverts the concept of faith and misleads the church]. 10 I have confidence in you in the Lord that you will adopt no other view [contrary to mine on the matter]; but the one who is disturbing you, whoever he is, will have to bear the penalty. 11 But as for me, [c]brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision [as I had done before I met Christ; and as [d]some accuse me of doing now, as necessary for salvation], why am I still being persecuted [by Jews]? In that case the stumbling block of the cross [to unbelieving Jews] has been abolished. 12 I wish that those who are troubling you [by teaching that circumcision is necessary for salvation] would even [go all the way and] castrate themselves!
 

No mistaking Pauls anger there, and its directed at people such as yourself who are promoting untruths. 

I am betting that you have more or less isolated yourself from other people who follow Jesus, because you believe they are all wrong and you are right. Is that correct?

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 14:32:10

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 10:22:55
What did Christ mean when He said He came to fulfill the law, not to abolish it?

He was referring to changing our hearts rather than to perform a check list of dos and don'ts that one might feel has kept them in good standing with God.

The law was simply not enough to offer salvation, that was the purpose for Christ and why we needed Him and continue to need Him.

I don't think anyone here is purporting that the law is a thing of the past, members here generally seem to acknowledge that we need to do our best to do the will of God, not only by the letter but with a proper heart condition.   

Al

Are you asking me, sir?

No, I took care of the answer myself,  thanks though 

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Sun Nov 29, 2015 - 15:02:22
Hi, I'm Covkeeper34. Yes, I am an ex-Christian. I was one for almost 20yrs. I do love Christians still because I was one but the Christian religion, I had to depart from it. Yes, the Son of David is still Lord. Yes, the Bible is the Truth. But being and avid reader of my Bible since I was 10yrs old, I know that  "Westernized Christianity" isn't the same as what we read in the Bible.

I'd like to have a friendly talk with only strong Christians who know their Bibles well because I know mine very well and in my experience, talking to Christians who do not know theirs well is like an adult trying to have an adult conversation with an immature kid who thinks they know it all in their limited experience.

I'd like to speak with only teachable and humble disciples who know and acknowledge that they do not have all the pieces to the puzzle as I acknowledge the same. I am teachable and not above correction but I ask that you do keep in mind that I know my Bible very well. You will see that I am able to explain my reasonings on the level that even a child can understand.

So please, will you come chat with me about some things?

A Christian is someone who has been made alive to God in Christ, literally. When God makes your spirit alive, you are now alive. You have transferred from death to life. It isn't even possible to become dead again. If you were made alive to God in Christ, you are still a 'Christian'. If you don't like the label 'Christian', then don't use it.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 15:06:19

Quote from: Layceers on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 14:50:40
I saw that after I posted.   We were posting at about the same time.   It was not a rebuttal just an addition to my other post.   

However, I have another question.   There are hundreds of OT laws.  Work laws, hygiene laws, gender specific laws, and on and on.   It would be impossible to keep some of them and impractical to observe others.    Specifically, which laws are you talking about?   Is there a list of the ones we are still required to obey?

Go back and read your Law. Keep everything that apparently still applies to you today. Yes, I'm telling you to stop believing what Christianity is telling you about the Law and go see about it yourself.

Jesus fulfilled the law because we never could. It isn't even possible for humans to follow the law. The point of the law was to expose the fact that we are sinners.

The Rational Mind Pt 3

Common sense and good reasoning will be the death of any false religious system.

Let me shoot an arrow...

In the Christian religion you will hear it propogated that Rav Shaul was a persecutor of the "Christian Church" Hmm...Let's take out our Bibles and see what it's really saying

Whoa!! If we're reading this correctly, Rav Shaul is a Jew/Hebrew zealous of the TRADITIONS of the fathers. He isn't persecuting any type of Believer. No, he's a JEW persecuitng JEWS LIKE CEPHAS who believe in A JEW as their Messiah!! What does he care that a Gentile believes? He wasn't concerned with them at the time!

Rational Mind,  who here doesn't know that a Messianic Jew and a Christian are not the same?! These are two DIFFERENT lifestyles that continue to this day and I know this because I'M ONE OF THEM!!

Rational Mind , which lifestyle are you reading about in your Bible and BE HONEST with yourselves:

A) The Christian lifestyle as you know it?
OR
B) The Hebraic Messianic Lifestyle as it has continued TO THIS VERY DAY since the Jewish Messiah gave instruction to His JEWISH DISCIPLES?

The answer is B!! And "B" is for BOOM!!

Messianic Jews back then still believed in keeping the Law!! Messianic Believers both Jew and Gentile today, still believe in keeping the Law!!  Just go and ask one when you find one. And it won't be hard because unbeknownst to you, they're probably in your neighborhood!

***the Rational Mind is thinking this through, thinking, thinking*** and breaks the silence by asking me this: Cov, how can you be so sure that the Messianic Jews like Peter, James, and Paul still kept Law after conversion?:

Because if you read your Gospels,  RABBI Yeshua tells His Disciples, 'Keep the Law of Moses but DON'T be like the Pharisees in your application of it!! BOOM!

Q: Does the Christian Jesus encourage his Christian disciples to keep the Law of Moses? No, he doesn't!! That's because the Christian Jesus never existed. He's the manufacturing of a false system called "Christianity" lol. Ouch!!

That was just an arrow but that BOOM! sure felt like a missile didn't it!

But we have stubborn Christians here who've been so indoctrinated into Christian theology, they can't even accept what's plainly written in English in their own Bibles. We're exposing that today though aren't we, Rational Mind?

Still not convinced Christianity is a false religious system? BUT WAIT!! Let's put the icing on the cake, shall we lol? The smart Christian who knows their NT will point me to the passage of verses(not scripture) where Rav Shaul testifies that he was "a persecutor of the CHURCH":

Hmm...Rational Mind, let's use both halves of the Bible to find some CONSISTENCY on what the Bible defines as "the CHURCH" We see clearly that the first CHURCH began in EXODUS made up of primarily Hebrews and the Gentiles who joined themselves to them AND they all came under the Law of Moses believing in the PROPHET Moses said was to come!!

In the first half of your Bible, it's called the "CONGREGATION" in the Second half it's called the "Church".

So, the ideal CHURCH back then found its realization in ACTS made up of Jews/Hebrews and Gentiles that still kept Law and Believed in Yeshua. Cornelius is a prime example! This is too easy!!

If the Christian religion that you are in is causing you to forsake your common sense, good reasoning,  and REALITY,  you can know for sure that you've fallen into a false religious system especially if it forces you to deny the Law in order to embrace it's manufactured Christ!

Lol, stay tuned for Pt 4

Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:34:11
Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting?   

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:40:52

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:34:11
Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:51:48

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:40:52

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:34:11
Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

He certainly is pleased with himself.

Texas Conservative, 

Can I ask you something? I promise that even you will feel this missile.

Quote from: Nevertheless on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 22:00:50

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:51:48

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:40:52

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:34:11
Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

He certainly is pleased with himself.

Lol, is that all you got lol

Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 22:05:56
Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

views from people who are probably seeing what we are, that you have got way way off track and are seriously deceived.
They can see as well as we do, that the Bible speaks for itself on these matters. 

Quote from: chosenone on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 22:10:45

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 22:05:56
Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

views from people who are probably seeing what we are, that you have got way way off track and are seriously deceived.
They can see as well as we do, that the Bible speaks for itself on these matters.

Hmm...is that what they're really thinking? And while you're too busy looking at me, The Rational Mind is looking at their Bibles.

Boom!! Lol

QuoteLol, is that all you got lol

Why should I bother to counter foolish posts full of straw man arguments and narcissistic back patting?

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:51:48

Quote from: Alan on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:40:52

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 21:34:11
Boom!  Nothing new added.  Boom!

What were you expecting? 

He claimed to be a General. His skills are lacking.  Since I am the Brigadier General, he is being demoted to Lieutenant.

Quote from: Covkeeper34 on Thu Dec 03, 2015 - 22:05:56
Global mediators,

Trust and believe. Look at all the views this getting.

You don't get it but the Rational Mind  is paying close attention. Remember that lol

Just because people are looking, doesn't mean they are buying what you are trying to sell, its FAR more likely that there is just a fair share of rubber neckin' goin' on.