For Paul baptism was a sacrament, not just a statement to the community

stevehut · Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 15:25:28

Quote from: Jimmy on Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 15:06:46
And the verb "teach" in v.20 is not in the imperative. There are only two in the entire sentence; they are "go" and "make".

Ah, almost missed this one.

As I said earlier, the word "make" is not in the original. The Greek word there (as in KJV) is "teach." But it's with a nuance that implies a close relationship between teacher and student, such that one becomes a disciple of the other. Hence the NIV's translation as "make disciples."

Jimmy · Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 16:56:06

Quote from: stevehut on Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 15:09:47
Good to hear that you're a grammar expert, Jimmy. I still can't see how that turns Jesus' commands into friendly suggestions that we can ignore with impunity.

Who said anything about ignoring it. I think He meant what he said. He said that we are to disciple [μαθητεύω], i.e, make disciples of all the nations through teaching and baptizing. I believe that to be the firm commandment.

And I am not a grammar expert, but I do try to apply good grammar in my reading of the Bible. Even though I am not a grammar expert, I believe that the Holy Spirit was in the presentation of God's word.

stevehut · Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 17:54:15

Quote from: Jimmy on Wed Jul 07, 2010 - 16:56:06
Even though I am not a grammar expert, I believe that the Holy Spirit was in the presentation of God's word.

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